CAP 1 Smogon's First "Create a Pokemon": Syclant Testing

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How to kill a Syclant 249 730 times over!

Thanks for the template X-Act.

Lord_Sunday sent out Smeargle (lvl 100 Smeargle ?).
Sunday sent out Paras (lvl 100 Paras ?).

Lord_Sunday: Who wants to see Syclant die a billion times over?
Lord_Sunday: join my game
Plus has entered the room.
Brawley has entered the room.
Raven has entered the room.
firewater has entered the room.
Brawley: Hola Sunday
Plus has left the room.

Smeargle used Skill Swap.
Smeargle swapped abilities with its opponent!
Paras used Aromatherapy.

Woah, quite a few people in here. Good, I like the attention. Just so you know I'm battling myself here. Smeargle now has Dry Skin, which is good. Everything going to plan.

twoFaced has entered the room.
NaivePhilosopher has entered the room.
Brawley has left the room.

Sunday switched in Smeargle (lvl 1 Smeargle ?).
Smeargle used Nasty Plot.
Smeargle's special attack was sharply raised.
---
Smeargle used Nasty Plot.
Smeargle's special attack was sharply raised.
Smeargle used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
Smeargle lost 1% of its health.
Smeargle's defence was lowered.
Smeargle's special defence was lowered.
---
Smeargle used Nasty Plot.
Smeargle's special attack was sharply raised.
Smeargle used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
Smeargle lost 1% of its health.
Smeargle's defence was lowered.
Smeargle's special defence was lowered.
---
Strikebeck has entered the room.
Smeargle used Metal Sound.
Smeargle's special defence was harshly lowered.
Smeargle used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Smeargle lost 2% of its health.
Smeargle's defence was lowered.
Smeargle's special defence was lowered.
---
Smeargle used Metal Sound.
Smeargle's special defence was harshly lowered.
Smeargle used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
Smeargle lost 1% of its health.
Smeargle's defence was lowered.
Smeargle's special defence won't go lower!

So what we now end up with is a Smeargle on -6 Sdef and one on +6 Satk. Great, now it's time to pass to my reciepients.

Smeargle used Metal Sound.
Smeargle's attack missed!
Smeargle used Baton Pass.
Sunday switched in Syclant (lvl 1 Syclant ?).
---
Jr. has entered the room.
Smeargle used Skill Swap.
Smeargle swapped abilities with its opponent!
Syclant used Hail.
Hail began to fall!
The hail continues to fall.
Smeargle is pelted by hail!
Smeargle lost 6% of its health.

But first we need to make that 4x Fire weak a x6 one!

twoFaced has left the room.
Smeargle used Baton Pass.
Lord_Sunday switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Syclant used Hidden Power.
Heatran's Flash Fire raised its fire power!
The hail continues to fall.
Heatran is pelted by hail!
Heatran lost 6% of its health.

Heatran picks up a Flash Fire boost courtesy of a Hidden Power Fire from Syclant there. Now, the stage is set. How much will a +6 Satk Modest Specs Heatran with Flash Fire activated to to a -6 Sdef Syclant with Dry Skin?

Strikebeck: This is looking great.
firewater: ....wow
Lord_Sunday: ok, wo who can tell me what we have?
Lord_Sunday: +6 Specs modest 252 Satk Flash fire heatran
firewater: -6 sp.def, dry skinned Lv.1 Scyclant
NaivePhilosopher: Ouch.
Strikebeck has left the room.
firewater: lol
Lord_Sunday: vs 6 hp 5 Sdef -6 sdef dry skin syclant
Plus has entered the room.
Heatran used Overheat.
Heatran's attack missed!

Syclant used Hail.
The hail continues to fall.
Heatran is pelted by hail!
Heatran lost 6% of its health.

Yeah, that's right, it misses. Just my luck.

Lord_Sunday: >.>
Lord_Sunday: right
Lord_Sunday: it missed lol
Lord_Sunday: try again

Ok, it's for real this time. Here we go!

Heatran used Overheat.
It's super effective!
Syclant lost 24973000% of its health.

Sunday's Syclant fainted.
Heatran's special attack was harshly lowered.
The hail continues to fall.
Heatran is pelted by hail!
Heatran lost 6% of its health.

NaivePhilosopher: o_o
Plus: LOL
Lord_Sunday: weeee!
Lord_Sunday: time to post this on Smogon
Jr.: ouch
Jr.: thats like

And there you go. THAT'S how you deal with that pesky insect Syclant! BBQ him nice and toasted!
 
Gastly used Sucker Punch! I don't see the problem there, a "sucker punch" is a surprise attack, why does everyone think it's taken as a literal punch?

It can also learn Ice, Fire, and Thunderpunch by breeding. On the other hand, these are taken literally and make no sense

Yeah.
As for the massive damage, now let's get a double battle going and give Heatran a Helping Hand from a partner. And preferably in the sun as well.
 

Sunday

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dam, forgot the sun could boost it!

Hail was just a filler really, well, time to do it all again!
 
one thing that I've seen from playing on doug's server is that battles are generally a lot quicker than standard battles in the official server. might be because everybody seems to be trying to get syclant set up and at the same time trying to prevent syclant from setting up, which means there tends to be a couple of sacrifices in each battle.
 

Sunday

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I tried killing Syclant again, this time in the sun!

huki4101 has left the room.
jett7 has left the room.
Smeargle used Baton Pass.
Lord_Sunday switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Syclant used Hidden Power.
Heatran's Flash Fire raised its fire power!
The sun continues to shine.
Syclant was hurt by the sunlight!
Syclant lost 8% of its health.
---
Heatran used Overheat.
It's super effective!
Syclant lost 34337817% of its health.

Sunday's Syclant fainted.
Heatran's special attack was harshly lowered.
The sun faded.
---
Cooper: Nice.
Spoon: Oh man.
Lord_Sunday: nice
xgina: lold
CrossDragon has left the room.
Lord_Sunday: much more than before
DougJustDoug: Huge.
Cooper: And the sun fades right on cue.
Cooper: How pissed would you have been if it had missed.
Lord_Sunday: lol
pelforth00 has left the room.
Lord_Sunday: it missed last time I tried!
Cooper: I noticed.
Cooper: I didn't even know it could.
Spoon has left the room.
Cooper has left the room.
DougJustDoug has left the room.

lol, killed it 350 000 times this time!
 

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Today has been absolutely crazy on the Create-A-Pokemon server! Usage exploded today. Apparently, Official was down for a while and, for some reason, everyone decided to come to our party, instead of the other dozen Shoddy servers available. Once Official came back up, a ton of people decided to stay. There have been 20-40 people logged on continuously all day long. There are now over 600 user accounts, and there have been 900+ battles today alone. Yes, you read that right -- 900+. It's been freakish.

There have been lots of questions, some great discussions, and not too many problems. My thanks to Lord Sunday, KingOfAnime, Cooper, and eric the espeon for helping mod the server. With all this traffic, it would be impossible to do alone. Thanks guys.

I plan to start writing some log reports. I really would like to gather some stats on Syclant. Not just simple usage or leads. I want to know stuff like

- Average number of turns Syclants plays in a battle
- Average number of kills Syclant gets in a battle
- Total kills sorted by pokemon (Who does Syclant kill?)
- Total killers sorted by pokemon (Who kills Syclant the most?)

Stuff like that. I find it fascinating. I'm working on a log parser that can tell me this sort of thing, but it'll take a while to get running. I'll keep you updated.
 
Heatran used Overheat.
It's super effective!
Syclant lost 34337817% of its health.
0_o

Poor Syclant.

Do it again, but in a double battle and have a partner Helping Hand Heatran! Let's see how much THAT would add!

And then to be fair, see how much pain you can get Syclant to cause on something.
 
You might do better damage by using Magmortar and Mimic to get Blast Burn. You lose 10 special attack but gain 10 base power. Unfortunately, Heatran doesn't get any moves that would allow him to use Blast Burn so his base 130 special attack is off limits. Alternatively, if you don't like Magmortar, Moltres is an equal substitution; both need Flash Fire Skill Swapped to them either way.
 

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Unfortunately, Heatran doesn't get any moves that would allow him to use Blast Burn so his base 130 special attack is off limits.
Hmm...that makes me wonder, AA. Would it be an option for Mewtwo to use Mimic to copy Conversion, then use that attack to change him into a fire type, thus gaining Fire STAB from his 154 base SpA?

But then again, he'd be stuck with Fire Blast, since he's already used the Mimic option and wouldn't be able to copy Blast Burn...

Wait, I got it!

What if Kecleon Skill Swapped with Deoxys-A, then Fire Punched him (please survive!)? Deoxys-A is now a Fire type. Later on, Flash Fire is swapped onto Deoxys-A. I assume Deoxys-A would remain a Fire type? Now Deoxys-A mimics the Blast Burn technique!

252 Modest Heatran +6 = 1576 SpA
252 Modest Deoxys-A +6 = 2016 SpA

Yay, useless pondering is fun!
 

Sunday

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Hmm, this seems like it needs further testing! I'm going to try lees way. Deoxys could be garunteed to survive by changing Kecleons level btw.
 

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Deoxys-A wouldn't stay a Fire type in that case since you're swapping Color Change away from him.
I'm not entirely sure how that works. Is the type change independant of the ability, or does it go hand in hand with Color Change? I've certainly never seen any message along the lines of "Kecleon reverted to a Normal type after losing Color Change!"
 
Was thinking if Syclant could be torn apart way more than by OverHeat.

Rules: Sleep Clause
lemontree sent out Bulbasaur (lvl 100 Bulbasaur ?).
brokenn sent out Bulbasaur (lvl 100 Bulbasaur ?).
lemontree switched in Smeargle (lvl 100 Smeargle ?).
Bulbasaur used Sweet Scent.
Smeargle's evasion was lowered.
---
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
Bulbasaur used Sweet Scent.
Smeargle's evasion was lowered.
---
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
Bulbasaur used Sweet Scent.
Smeargle's evasion was lowered.
---
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
Bulbasaur used Sweet Scent.
Smeargle's evasion was lowered.
---
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
Bulbasaur used Sweet Scent.
Smeargle's evasion was lowered.
---
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
Bulbasaur used Sweet Scent.
Smeargle's evasion was lowered.
---
brokenn switched in Muk (lvl 1 Muk ?).
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
---
brokenn switched in Golem (lvl 100 Golem ?).
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
---
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
Golem used Swords Dance.
Golem's attack was sharply raised.
---
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
Golem used Swords Dance.
Golem's attack was sharply raised.
---
Smeargle used Swallow.
But it failed to swallow a thing!
Golem used Swords Dance.
Golem's attack was sharply raised.
---
Smeargle used Substitute.
Smeargle lost 25% of its health.
Smeargle made a substitute!
Golem used Defense Curl.
Golem's defence was raised.
---
Smeargle used Substitute.
But it failed!
Golem used Rollout.
The substitute took damage for Smeargle!
Smeargle's substitute faded!
---
Smeargle used Substitute.
Smeargle lost 25% of its health.
Smeargle made a substitute!
Golem used Rollout.
The substitute took damage for Smeargle!
Smeargle's substitute faded!
---
Smeargle used Substitute.
Smeargle lost 25% of its health.
Smeargle made a substitute!
Golem used Rollout.
The substitute took damage for Smeargle!
Smeargle's substitute faded!
---
Smeargle used Substitute.
Smeargle lost 25% of its health.
Smeargle made a substitute!
Golem used Rollout.
The substitute took damage for Smeargle!
Smeargle's substitute faded!
---
Smeargle used Baton Pass.
lemontree switched in Smeargle (lvl 100 Smeargle ?).
Golem used Rollout.
Smeargle lost 9233% of its health.
Smeargle hung on using its Focus Sash!
Golem lost 10% of its health.
---
Smeargle used Baton Pass.
lemontree switched in Syclant (lvl 1 Syclant ?).
Golem used Rollout.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Syclant lost 55770783% of its health.
lemontree's Syclant fainted.
Golem lost 10% of its health.

Think that if i used metronome instead of LifeOrb it would do more damage but i'm too lazy to test it out again.
55770783% as compared to 34337817%.
Got the Rollout idea from the xxxxxxxxx% damage done to Shedinja thread awhile back.
Thinking about passing +6 Att to Donphan who has 10 more base Att than Golem and swapping ColourChange to it to give it Rock STAB...
 
Man you guys should stop picking on the new kids.... I'll bet you guys will try to rape our ghost once its complete as well....
 

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Smeargle used Baton Pass.
lemontree switched in Syclant (lvl 1 Syclant ?).
Golem used Rollout.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Syclant lost 55770783% of its health.
lemontree's Syclant fainted.
Golem lost 10% of its health.
...
Please tell me you were running CompoundEyes on that Syclant. Otherwise, Mountaineer should have made you immune to the Rollout. The reason I'm asking is I'm curious if I botched the Mountaineer code to not work properly during Baton Passes.

Now that I'm thinking about non-standard switching techniques -- Does Mountaineer work properly on U-Turn? What about a SleepTalked Roar? I think Mountaineer should convey Rock immunity in all of these cases. If the code doesn't do it, I'd like to know.
 
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