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Snover (Eviolite) [QC 3/3] [GP 2/2]

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Elevator Music, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Elevator Music

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    This set will replace the Offensive Leech Seed set (if approved), because that set sucks ass.

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    [SET]
    name: Eviolite
    move 1: Blizzard
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Rock
    move 4: Ice Shard
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Snow Warning
    nature: Quiet
    evs: 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 116 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With Eviolite, Snover has an easy time checking the Water-types in LC and is also able to repeatedly switch in on Hippopotas. This allows Snover to continually remove the sandstorm that makes sand teams so threatening. Snover can also bluff a Choice Scarf with this set, allowing it to get a surprise hit against the opponent that usually results in a free KO, such as when Chinchou comes in on a Blizzard only to get crippled by Giga Drain next turn, or when Ferroseed switches in on a Giga Drain but then eats a Hidden Power Fire. It's important to note that, without a Choice Scarf, Snover won't outspeed Drilbur in hail, making it less effective as a Drilbur check than the Choice Scarf set. However, it's much better at switching in on Hippopotas, which makes it a better check to sand teams as a whole.</p>

    <p>Blizzard and Giga Drain are Snover's STAB moves. Blizzard hits incredibly hard, while Giga Drain can be used to nail the Water-types that resist Blizzard and keep Snover healthy throughout the match. Most of the time, Snover should just spam Blizzard, unless you predict a Steel- or Fire-type coming in. Hidden Power Fire hits the Steel-types that will switch in, such as Magnemite, Ferroseed, Pawniard, and Bronzor. On the other hand, Hidden Power Rock hits the Fire-types switch-ins, such as Larvesta, Houndour, and Ponyta. The choice of Hidden Power should be dependent on how well the rest of the team covers each of these two groups. Ice Shard is useful priority that can pick off weakened Pokemon, most notably Drilbur and Murkrow. It won't actually OHKO anything, but it will do over 50% to both Life Orb Drilbur and Life Orb Murkrow, which might be helpful in a pinch.</p>

    <p>The EV spread gives Snover enough bulk to switch in on resisted attacks while also providing offensive power. The HP EVs give Snover 23 HP, letting it switch in 5 times if Stealth Rock is up, as Snover will only be damaged 5 HP per switch in. The given bulk also makes it so Chinchou and Staryu will only 4HKO at best with Hydro Pump. Snover also avoids a OHKO from +2 Eviolite Misdreavus's Hidden Power Fighting, and will not be 2HKOed in general by Misdreavus. Unfortunately, you can't have everything, as Snover has to sit at 9 Speed to enjoy the perks of bulk and power. Even this has a silver lining though, as it will usually let Snover underspeed Hippopotas, meaning if both Snover and Hippopotas are sent out at the same time, Snover will remove the sandstorm and set up hail.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>If you're having trouble choosing between Hidden Power Fire and Hidden Power Rock, Hidden Power Ground can be used to hit a mix of the Pokemon you'd hit with the other two. It will nail Magnemite, Pawniard, Houndour, Ponyta, and even Tentacool, although Snover won't be able to hit Bronzor, Ferroseed, or Larvesta hard. Protect can also be used instead of Ice Shard or Hidden Power to block Fake Out, scout moves, and piss off Hi Jump Kick users. Leech Seed and Synthesis are options to give Snover more longevity; however, Giga Drain will usually end up healing more than either of those moves. If the listed EV spread isn't your thing, you can run an alternative spread of 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 120 Spe with a Quiet nature. This will allow Snover to outspeed many important walls, such as Hippopotas, Lileep, and Ferroseed, and tie with some others, such as Porygon and Frillish.</p>

    <p>For teammates, a spinner is important to help Snover check sand reliably. Staryu pairs well with Snover type-wise, as it is able to wall the Fire-types that can melt Snover. In turn, Eviolite Snover makes a great switch-in to many Pokemon that threaten Staryu, such as Chinchou and Ferroseed. Other spinners, such as Drilbur and Tentacool, can also be effective partners. It's also incredibly important to pair Snover with at least one Pokemon that can check the common Fighting-types in Little Cup. Both Misdreavus and Murkrow work well with Snover on offensive teams, while Vullaby and Shelmet work well on defensive teams. Larvesta is also an option, as with its Flame Body ability it can cripple most of the common Fighting-types, notably Mienfoo. However, Larvesta relies on Morning Sun for recovery, and as such doesn't perform as well in hail. Other Snover teammates should be able to counter Murkrow, a top-tier threat that can OHKO Snover. Chinchou can easily tank Murkrow's attacks and support Snover with Heal Bell and Scald, while Archen can also wall Murkrow and provide Stealth Rock and U-turn support. Both Chinchou and Archen also have great synergy with Snover as a whole.</p>

    <p>As Snover cannot outspeed Drilbur without a Choice Scarf, it is necessary to include Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur once Snover has removed the sandstorm. The aforementioned Staryu, Misdreavus, and Murkrow all hit 19 Speed, making them capable of outspeeding and threatening Drilbur while sand is not up. Other Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur include Abra and Ponyta. Alternatively, Snover can be paired with a Choice Scarf Pokemon that can hit Drilbur hard, such as Choice Scarf Mienfoo or Magnemite.</p>
  2. iss

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    I like it! I made the spread though so I guess that doesn't say much.

    [qc]1/2[/qc]

    Will edit with a faster EV spread in a bit.
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    I guess this is ready for QC
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    iss already brought up all my concerns (none)

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    QC Approved 2/2
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    This is finally written, can it get a third QC check?
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    why are we so dumb and didnt get this up sooner lol
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    [SET]
    name: Eviolite
    move 1: Blizzard
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Rock
    move 4: Ice Shard
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Snow Warning
    nature: Quiet
    evs: 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 116 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With Eviolite, Snover has an easy time checking the Water-types in LC and also is able to repeatedly switch in on Hippopotas. This allows Snover to continually remove the sandstorm that makes sand teams so threatening. Snover can also bluff a Choice Scarf with this set, allowing it to get a surprise hit against the opponent that usually results in a free KO, such as when Chinchou comes in on a Blizzard only to get crippled by Giga Drain next turn, or when Ferroseed switchinges in on a Giga Drain but then eatings a Hidden Power Fire. It's important to note that without a Choice Scarf, Snover won't outspeed Drilbur in hail, making it less effective as a Drilbur check than the Choice Scarf set. However, it's much better at switching in on Hippopotas, which makes it a better check to sand teams as a whole.</p>

    <p>Blizzard and Giga Drain are Snover's STAB moves. Blizzard hits incredibly hard, while Giga Drain can be used to keep Snover healthy throughout the match. Most of the time, Snover should just spam Blizzard, unless you predict a Steel- or Fire-type coming in. Hidden Power Fire hits the Steel-types that will switch in, such as Magnemite, Ferroseed, Pawniard, and Bronzor. On the other hand, Hidden Power Rock hits the Fire-types that will switch in, such as Larvesta, Houndour, and Ponyta. The choice of Hidden Power should be dependent onhow well the rest of the team, covers eand which of thoese two groups is better covered. The last move is Ice Shard, which is useful priority that can pick off weakened Pokemon, most notably Drilbur and Murkrow. It won't actually OHKO anything, but it will do over 50% to both LO Drilbur and LO Murkrow, which might be helpful in a pinch.</p>

    <p>The EV spread gives Snover enough bulk to switch in on resisted attacks while also providing offensive power. The HP EVs give Snover 23 HP, letting Snover to switch in at least 5 times if Stealth Rock is up, as Snover will only be damaged 5 HP per switch in. The given bulk also makes it so Chinchou and Staryu will only 4HKO at best with Hydro Pump. Snover also avoids a OHKO from +2 (Eviolite) Misdreavus Hidden Power Fighting, and will not be 2HKOed in general by Misdreavus. Unfortunately, you can't have everything, ands Snover has to sit at 9 Speed to enjoy the perks of bulk and power. Even this has a silver lining though, as it will usually let Snover underspeed Hippopotas, meaning if both Snover and Hippopotas are sent out at the same time, Snover will remove the sandstorm and set up hail.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>If you're having trouble choosing between Hidden Power Fire orand Hidden Power Rock, Hidden Power Ground can be used to hit a mix of the Pokemon you'd hit with the other two. It will nail Magnemite, Pawniard, Houndour, Ponyta, and Tentacool, although Snover won't be able to hit Bronzor, Ferroseed, or Larvesta hard. Protect can also be used instead of Ice Shard or Hidden Power. It will allow Snover to block Fake Out, scout moves, and piss off Hi Jump Kick-using Pokemon. Leech Seed orand Synthesis are options to give Snover more longevity,; however, Giga Drain will usually end up healing more than either of those moves. If the listed EV spread isn't your thing, you can run an alternative spread of 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 120 Spe with a Quiet nature. Thatis will allow Snover to outspeed many important walls, such as Hippopotas, Lileep, and Ferroseed, and tie with some others, such as Porygon and Frillish.</p>

    <p>For teammates, a spinner is important to help Snover check sand reliably. Staryu pairs well with Snover type-wise, as it is able to wall the Fire-types that can melt Snover. In turn, Eviolite Snover makes a great switch-in to many Pokemon that threaten Staryu, such as Chinchou and Ferroseed. Other spinners, such as Drilbur and Tentacool, can also be effective effective partners. It's also incredibly important to pair Snover with at least one Pokemon that can check the common Fighting-types in Little Cup. Both Misdreavus and Murkrow work well with Snover on offensive teams, while Vullaby and Shelmet work well on defensive teams. Larvesta is also an option, as with its Flame Body ability it can cripple most of the common Fighting-types, notably Mienfoo. However, Larvesta relies on Morning Sun for recovery, and as such doesn't perform as well in hail. Other Snover teammates should be able to counter Murkrow, a top tier threat that can easily OHKO Snover. Chinchou can easily tank Murkrow's attacks and support Snover with Heal Bell and Scald, while Archen can also wall Murkrow and provide Stealth Rock and U-turn support. Both Chinchou and Archen also have great synergy with Snover as a whole.</p>

    <p>As Snover cannot outspeed Drilbur without a Choice Scarf, it is necessary to include Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur once Snover has removed the sandstorm. The aforementioned Staryu, Misdreavus, and Murkrow all hit 19 Speed, making them easily capable of outspeeding and threatening Drilbur while sand is not up. Other Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur include Abra and Ponyta. Alternatively, Snover can be paired with a Choice Scarf Pokemon that can hit Drilbur hard, such as Choice Scarf Mienfoo or Magnemite.</p>

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    [SET]
    name: Eviolite
    move 1: Blizzard
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Rock
    move 4: Ice Shard
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Snow Warning
    nature: Quiet
    evs: 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 116 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With Eviolite, Snover has an easy time checking the Water-types in LC and also is able to repeatedly switch in on Hippopotas. This allows Snover to continually remove the sandstorm that makes sand teams so threatening. Snover can also bluff a Choice Scarf with this set, allowing it to get a surprise hit against the opponent that usually results in a free KO, such as when Chinchou comes in on a Blizzard only to get crippled by Giga Drain next turn, or when Ferroseed switches in on a Giga Drain but then eats a Hidden Power Fire. It's important to note that without a Choice Scarf, Snover won't outspeed Drilbur in hail, making it less effective as a Drilbur check than the Choice Scarf set. However, it's much better at switching in on Hippopotas, which makes it a better check to sand teams as a whole.</p>

    <p>Blizzard and Giga Drain are Snover's STAB moves. Blizzard hits incredibly hard, while Giga Drain can be used to keep Snover healthy throughout the match. Most of the time, Snover should just spam Blizzard, unless you predict a Steel- or Fire-type coming in. Hidden Power Fire hits the Steel-types that will switch in, such as Magnemite, Ferroseed, Pawniard, and Bronzor. On the other hand, Hidden Power Rock hits the Fire-types that will switch in, such as Larvesta, Houndour, and Ponyta. The choice of Hidden Power should be dependent how well the rest of the team covers each of these two groups. The last move is Ice Shard, which is useful priority that can pick off weakened Pokemon, most notably Drilbur and Murkrow. It won't actually OHKO anything, but it will do over 50% to both LO Drilbur and LO Murkrow, which might be helpful in a pinch.</p>

    <p>The EV spread gives Snover enough bulk to switch in on resisted attacks while also providing offensive power. The HP EVs give Snover 23 HP, letting Snover switch in at least 5 times if Stealth Rock is up, as Snover will only be damaged 5 HP per switch in. The given bulk also makes it so Chinchou and Staryu will only 4HKO at best with Hydro Pump. Snover also avoids a OHKO from +2 (Eviolite) Misdreavus Hidden Power Fighting, and will not be 2HKOed in general by Misdreavus. Unfortunately, you can't have everything, as Snover has to sit at 9 Speed to enjoy the perks of bulk and power. Even this has a silver lining though, as it will usually let Snover underspeed Hippopotas, meaning if both Snover and Hippopotas are sent out at the same time, Snover will remove the sandstorm and set up hail.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>If you're having trouble choosing between Hidden Power Fire and Hidden Power Rock, Hidden Power Ground can be used to hit a mix of the Pokemon you'd hit with the other two. It will nail Magnemite, Pawniard, Houndour, Ponyta, and Tentacool, although Snover won't be able to hit Bronzor, Ferroseed, or Larvesta hard. Protect can also be used instead of Ice Shard or Hidden Power. It will allow Snover to block Fake Out, scout moves, and piss off Hi Jump Kick-using Pokemon. Leech Seed and Synthesis are options to give Snover more longevity; however, Giga Drain will usually end up healing more than either of those moves. If the listed EV spread isn't your thing, you can run an alternative spread of 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 120 Spe with a Quiet nature. This will allow Snover to outspeed many important walls, such as Hippopotas, Lileep, and Ferroseed, and tie with some others, such as Porygon and Frillish.</p>

    <p>For teammates, a spinner is important to help Snover check sand reliably. Staryu pairs well with Snover type-wise, as it is able to wall the Fire-types that can melt Snover. In turn, Eviolite Snover makes a great switch-in to many Pokemon that threaten Staryu, such as Chinchou and Ferroseed. Other spinners, such as Drilbur and Tentacool, can also be effective effective partners. It's also incredibly important to pair Snover with at least one Pokemon that can check the common Fighting-types in Little Cup. Both Misdreavus and Murkrow work well with Snover on offensive teams, while Vullaby and Shelmet work well on defensive teams. Larvesta is also an option, as with its Flame Body ability it can cripple most of the common Fighting-types, notably Mienfoo. However, Larvesta relies on Morning Sun for recovery, and as such doesn't perform as well in hail. Other Snover teammates should be able to counter Murkrow, a top tier threat that can easily OHKO Snover. Chinchou can easily tank Murkrow's attacks and support Snover with Heal Bell and Scald, while Archen can also wall Murkrow and provide Stealth Rock and U-turn support. Both Chinchou and Archen also have great synergy with Snover as a whole.</p>

    <p>As Snover cannot outspeed Drilbur without a Choice Scarf, it is necessary to include Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur once Snover has removed the sandstorm. The aforementioned Staryu, Misdreavus, and Murkrow all hit 19 Speed, making them easily capable of outspeeding and threatening Drilbur while sand is not up. Other Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur include Abra and Ponyta. Alternatively, Snover can be paired with a Choice Scarf Pokemon that can hit Drilbur hard, such as Choice Scarf Mienfoo or Magnemite.</p>

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    thanks, implemented
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    Well, this is really well-written. So much so that i'm going to comment on most of my changes.

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    [SET]
    name: Eviolite
    move 1: Blizzard
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Rock
    move 4: Ice Shard
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Snow Warning
    nature: Quiet
    evs: 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 116 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With Eviolite, Snover has an easy time checking the Water-types in LC and is also is able to repeatedly switch in on Hippopotas. This allows Snover to continually remove the sandstorm that makes sand teams so threatening. Snover can also bluff a Choice Scarf with this set, allowing it to get a surprise hit against the opponent that usually results in a free KO, such as when Chinchou comes in on a Blizzard only to get crippled by Giga Drain next turn, or when Ferroseed switches in on a Giga Drain but then eats a Hidden Power Fire. It's important to note that, without a Choice Scarf, Snover won't outspeed Drilbur in hail, making it less effective as a Drilbur check than the Choice Scarf set. However, it's much better at switching in on Hippopotas, which makes it a better check to sand teams as a whole.</p>

    <p>Blizzard and Giga Drain are Snover's STAB moves. Blizzard hits incredibly hard, while Giga Drain can be used to keep Snover healthy throughout the match. Most of the time, Snover should just spam Blizzard, unless you predict a Steel- or Fire-type coming in. Hidden Power Fire hits the Steel-types that will switch in, such as Magnemite, Ferroseed, Pawniard, and Bronzor. On the other hand, Hidden Power Rock hits the Fire-types that will switch in, such as Larvesta, Houndour, and Ponyta. The choice of Hidden Power should be dependent on how well the rest of the team covers each of these two groups. The last move is Ice Shard, which is useful priority that can pick off weakened Pokemon, most notably Drilbur and Murkrow. It won't actually OHKO anything, but it will do over 50% to both LO Drilbur and LO Murkrow, which might be helpful in a pinch.</p>

    <p>The EV spread gives Snover enough bulk to switch in on resisted attacks while also providing offensive power. The HP EVs give Snover 23 HP, letting Snover switch in at least 5 times if Stealth Rock is up, as Snover will only be damaged 5 HP per switch in. The given bulk also makes it so Chinchou and Staryu will only 4HKO at best with Hydro Pump. Snover also avoids a OHKO from +2 (Eviolite) Misdreavus' Hidden Power Fighting, and will not be 2HKOed in general by Misdreavus. Unfortunately, you can't have everything, as Snover has to sit at 9 Speed to enjoy the perks of bulk and power. Even this has a silver lining though, as it will usually let Snover underspeed Hippopotas, meaning if both Snover and Hippopotas are sent out at the same time, Snover will remove the sandstorm and set up hail.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>If you're having trouble choosing between Hidden Power Fire and Hidden Power Rock, Hidden Power Ground can be used to hit a mix of the Pokemon you'd hit with the other two. It will nail Magnemite, Pawniard, Houndour, Ponyta, and even Tentacool, although Snover won't be able to hit Bronzor, Ferroseed, or Larvesta hard. Protect can also be used instead of Ice Shard or Hidden Power. It will allow Snover to block Fake Out, scout moves, and piss off Hi Jump Kick-using Pokemon users. Leech Seed and Synthesis are options to give Snover more longevity; however, Giga Drain will usually end up healing more than either of those moves. If the listed EV spread isn't your thing, you can run an alternative spread of 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 120 Spe with a Quiet nature. This will allow Snover to outspeed many important walls, such as Hippopotas, Lileep, and Ferroseed, and tie with some others, such as Porygon and Frillish.</p>

    <p>For teammates, a spinner is important to help Snover check sand reliably. Staryu pairs well with Snover type-wise, as it is able to wall the Fire-types that can melt Snover. In turn, Eviolite Snover makes a great switch-in to many Pokemon that threaten Staryu, such as Chinchou and Ferroseed. Other spinners, such as Drilbur and Tentacool, can also be effective effective partners. It's also incredibly important to pair Snover with at least one Pokemon that can check the common Fighting-types in Little Cup. Both Misdreavus and Murkrow work well with Snover on offensive teams, while Vullaby and Shelmet work well on defensive teams. Larvesta is also an option, as with its Flame Body ability it can cripple most of the common Fighting-types, notably Mienfoo. However, Larvesta relies on Morning Sun for recovery, and as such doesn't perform as well in hail. Other Snover teammates should be able to counter Murkrow, a top tier threat that can easily OHKO Snover. Chinchou can easily tank Murkrow's attacks and support Snover with Heal Bell and Scald, while Archen can also wall Murkrow and provide Stealth Rock and U-turn support. Both Chinchou and Archen also have great synergy with Snover as a whole.</p>

    <p>As Snover cannot outspeed Drilbur without a Choice Scarf, it is necessary to include Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur once Snover has removed the sandstorm. The aforementioned Staryu, Misdreavus, and Murkrow all hit 19 Speed, making them easily capable of outspeeding and threatening Drilbur while sand is not up. Other Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur include Abra and Ponyta. Alternatively, Snover can be paired with a Choice Scarf Pokemon that can hit Drilbur hard, such as Choice Scarf Mienfoo or Magnemite.</p>



    Comments: I wanted to cut out "That usually results in a KO". You can keep it, I felt like it wasn't really contributing too much considering you give 2 examples of Ko's/Near Ko's in the next sentence. So I don't know, I'll leave that up to you.
    I think we all know Giga Drain hits water types but all you say about it is that it heals Snover. (Although you mention up there it cripples Chinchou.) Maybe include that? (After all, Water-types DO resist Blizzard and all).
    I see Woodchuck removed the on after dependent (I'll Bold where). I feel like it needs to be there anyways though but seeing as he said no there's a high chance of me being wrong and unaware of it.
    I don't really believe it's important to go "ice shard is the last move", just talk about what it does.
    At least 5 times? I assume you mean because of Giga Drain (Or wish Support?), but at that point it gets all murky, because then even if you had an HP that would die on 4 switch-ins, you'd still be able to switch in 5 times. Maybe you want to say at the very least?
    I'm torn on whether or not to apostrophe Misdreavus HP fight. But I did anyhow.
    I put in Even tentacool, because neither of the previous HP's really does much to him.
    Cut the also in the protect sentence and fused it with the effects of protect sentence because why the hell not
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    [SET]
    name: Eviolite
    move 1: Blizzard
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Rock
    move 4: Ice Shard
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Snow Warning
    nature: Quiet
    evs: 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 116 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With Eviolite, Snover has an easy time checking the Water-types in LC and is also is able to repeatedly switch in on Hippopotas. This allows Snover to continually remove the sandstorm that makes sand teams so threatening. Snover can also bluff a Choice Scarf with this set, allowing it to get a surprise hit against the opponent that usually results in a free KO, such as when Chinchou comes in on a Blizzard only to get crippled by Giga Drain next turn, or when Ferroseed switches in on a Giga Drain but then eats a Hidden Power Fire. It's important to note that, without a Choice Scarf, Snover won't outspeed Drilbur in hail, making it less effective as a Drilbur check than the Choice Scarf set. However, it's much better at switching in on Hippopotas, which makes it a better check to sand teams as a whole.</p>

    <p>Blizzard and Giga Drain are Snover's STAB moves. Blizzard hits incredibly hard, while Giga Drain can be used to keep Snover healthy throughout the match. Most of the time, Snover should just spam Blizzard, unless you predict a Steel- or Fire-type coming in. Hidden Power Fire hits the Steel-types that will switch in, such as Magnemite, Ferroseed, Pawniard, and Bronzor. On the other hand, Hidden Power Rock hits the Fire-types that will switch in, Fire-type switch-ins (changing this to avoid repetition) such as Larvesta, Houndour, and Ponyta. The choice of Hidden Power should be dependent on how well the rest of the team covers each of these two groups. The last move is Ice Shard, which is useful priority that can pick off weakened Pokemon, most notably Drilbur and Murkrow. It won't actually OHKO anything, but it will do over 50% to both Life Orb Drilbur and Life Orb Murkrow, which might be helpful in a pinch.</p>

    <p>The EV spread gives Snover enough bulk to switch in on resisted attacks while also providing offensive power. The HP EVs give Snover 23 HP, letting Snover it switch in at least 5 times if Stealth Rock is up (you might want to address tehy's comment on the number of switch-ins which he noted in his amateur check), as Snover will only be damaged 5 HP per switch in. The given bulk also makes it so Chinchou and Staryu will only 4HKO at best with Hydro Pump. Snover also avoids a OHKO from +2 (Eviolite) Misdreavus's Hidden Power Fighting, and will not be 2HKOed in general by Misdreavus. Unfortunately, you can't have everything, as Snover has to sit at 9 Speed to enjoy the perks of bulk and power. Even this has a silver lining though, as it will usually let Snover underspeed Hippopotas, meaning if both Snover and Hippopotas are sent out at the same time, Snover will remove the sandstorm and set up hail.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>If you're having trouble choosing between Hidden Power Fire and Hidden Power Rock, Hidden Power Ground can be used to hit a mix of the Pokemon you'd hit with the other two. It will nail Magnemite, Pawniard, Houndour, Ponyta, and even Tentacool, although Snover won't be able to hit Bronzor, Ferroseed, or Larvesta hard. Protect canalso be used instead of Ice Shard or Hidden Power. It will allow Snover to block Fake Out, scout moves, and piss off Hi Jump Kick-using Pokemon users. Leech Seed and Synthesis are options to give Snover more longevity; however, Giga Drain will usually end up healing more than either of those moves. If the listed EV spread isn't your thing, you can run an alternative spread of 36 HP / 104 Atk / 36 Def / 184 SpA / 120 Spe with a Quiet nature. This will allow Snover to outspeed many important walls, such as Hippopotas, Lileep, and Ferroseed, and tie with some others, such as Porygon and Frillish.</p>

    <p>For teammates, a spinner is important to help Snover check sand reliably. Staryu pairs well with Snover type-wise, as it is able to wall the Fire-types that can melt Snover. In turn, Eviolite Snover makes a great switch-in to many Pokemon that threaten Staryu, such as Chinchou and Ferroseed. Other spinners, such as Drilbur and Tentacool, can also be effective effective partners. It's also incredibly important to pair Snover with at least one Pokemon that can check the common Fighting-types in Little Cup. Both Misdreavus and Murkrow work well with Snover on offensive teams, while Vullaby and Shelmet work well on defensive teams. Larvesta is also an option, as with its Flame Body ability it can cripple most of the common Fighting-types, notably Mienfoo. However, Larvesta relies on Morning Sun for recovery, and as such doesn't perform as well in hail. Other Snover teammates should be able to counter Murkrow, a top-tier threat that can easily OHKO Snover. Chinchou can easily tank Murkrow's attacks and support Snover with Heal Bell and Scald, while Archen can also wall Murkrow and provide Stealth Rock and U-turn support. Both Chinchou and Archen also have great synergy with Snover as a whole.</p>

    <p>As Snover cannot outspeed Drilbur without a Choice Scarf, it is necessary to include Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur once Snover has removed the sandstorm. The aforementioned Staryu, Misdreavus, and Murkrow all hit 19 Speed, making them easily capable of outspeeding and threatening Drilbur while sand is not up. Other Pokemon that can outspeed Drilbur include Abra and Ponyta. Alternatively, Snover can be paired with a Choice Scarf Pokemon that can hit Drilbur hard, such as Choice Scarf Mienfoo or Magnemite.</p>


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