Gen 3 Spikes,Trappers & Contraptions (RMT)

[Mablak]

Hello. I'm a new member to Smogon.First post,w00t! Rate my Team in the sense that detect a weakness or the like.Sorry if I broke the rules in the first post itself. Here is the team I've been using for about 6 months...
(PS: I've NetBattled about a year)

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 80 Atk / 252 Spd / 178 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute

Everyone is forgetting TBoah.Or are they?

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 192 HP / 144 Spd / 40 SAtk / 132 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt

Mainly to screw HypnoGar who can hit the rest of my team hard.Gets Swampert while at it ,too. I use this EV set or 252 HP/220 Sp.Def/36 Spd.

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 79 Def / 48 Spd / 63 SAtk / 68 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Recover
- Surf

Wall.Psych-Up for Lax.I can handle Raikou with the Pink Shit.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 180 HP / 192 Def / 136 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Spikes
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

Crap. I can't resist him.Takes on Forretress,Snorlax(w/o Fblast) and helps to wear em down.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

This thing can take on Jolly Dugtrio.Honest!TWave because my team doesn't pack status anywhere else.

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

To kill Celebi or Heracross,really.I'm not scared of EndureCross and sandstream will always be up. :)

I'm in need of a reliable spinner,so I'm thinking of going Claydol over Duggy.But then it gets pwned by Heracross and Celebi...any help will greatly appreciated.

I also love the smilies. Cheers!

 

[morning storm]

a team of 6 bog standards, which in it's attempt to stray from the ordinary, has produced a couple of inefficient EV spreads, and some unnecessarily unorthodox move sets.

ice beam on boah doesnt make sense. 252 hp was for 101 subs. use your other zapdos spread. it may be standard, but it's defensively better. max skarm hp before adding to defences. i cant think of a situation in which your psych up milotic will win against a curselax. consider a status move, or light screen and then possibly removing bliss, which would free up a position. milo wants more/max def to handle gon/tar/mence/gross. you're using sub/rest skarm which is a bit weird but works kewl if used right.

McIcegar/boah present a couple of problems, as well will CB rocks from things like aero or tar. with 4/6 pokes weak to spikes, and the team not looking that outrageously offensive, you may want to address that also.

 

[Mablak]

Sorry for the screwed up EVs...I've glanced through the EV sets and I've fixed them now. Ice Beam on Boah to "take care" of Salamence as I usually have a sub up when it enters....Boah also takes most hits Salamence can throw (when its at full HP) . I have a idea of reforming this team with the members.

I'm posting it below,but its a new team (almost)....

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 112 Spd / 80 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Crunch

HP Grass as Thunderbolt is mostly useful for Milotic and that is rarely seen
nowadays.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Couldn't fit in Spike support but this does work.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Def / 36 Spd / 48 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed / Psych Up
- Heal Bell
- Recover
- Psychic

I'm sticking with LSeed now but might go with Psych Up for Leeching Lax;
can manage Raikou to an extent.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Spd / 220 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunderbolt

Sleep absorb, 1/2 of a Special sponge.

Claydol @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 20 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rapid Spin

DDMence and Tar counter,Spike kill :D

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 116 HP / 248 Atk / 144 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Flying]

A shot at a sweep as it gets 404 speed after 1 DD. I mostly bring this in late game and DD straight up,contrary to the rules, and this sometimes helps me. The moves compliment each other and has the OU metagame covered,except for hax and bulkies.

Thanks for the reply morning storm. I was glad I had not broken any rules.LoL.

 

[z0MG]

Hello. I'm a new member to Smogon.First post,w00t! Rate my Team in the sense that detect a weakness or the like.Sorry if I broke the rules in the first post itself. Here is the team I've been using for about 6 months...
(PS: I've NetBattled about a year)

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 80 Atk / 252 Spd / 178 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
IB is useless.
Everyone is forgetting TBoah.Or are they?

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 192 HP / 144 Spd / 40 SAtk / 132 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt

Mainly to screw HypnoGar who can hit the rest of my team hard.Gets Swampert while at it ,too. I use this EV set or 252 HP/220 Sp.Def/36 Spd.

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 79 Def / 48 Spd / 63 SAtk / 68 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Recover
- Surf
It's not like psych up does shit to lax.
Wall.Psych-Up for Lax.I can handle Raikou with the Pink Shit.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 180 HP / 192 Def / 136 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Spikes
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

Crap. I can't resist him.Takes on Forretress,Snorlax(w/o Fblast) and helps to wear em down.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

This thing can take on Jolly Dugtrio.Honest!TWave because my team doesn't pack status anywhere else.
How the hell does it take on dug?

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide
Adamant. Jolly is for Raikou weak teams.
To kill Celebi or Heracross,really.I'm not scared of EndureCross and sandstream will always be up. :)

I'm in need of a reliable spinner,so I'm thinking of going Claydol over Duggy.But then it gets pwned by Heracross and Celebi...any help will greatly appreciated.

I also love the smilies. Cheers!

 

[z0MG]

Sorry for the screwed up EVs...I've glanced through the EV sets and I've fixed them now. Ice Beam on Boah to "take care" of Salamence as I usually have a sub up when it enters....Boah also takes most hits Salamence can throw (when its at full HP) . I have a idea of reforming this team with the members.

I'm posting it below,but its a new team (almost)....

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 112 Spd / 80 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Crunch

HP Grass as Thunderbolt is mostly useful for Milotic and that is rarely seen
nowadays.
TB or FB over Crunch.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Couldn't fit in Spike support but this does work.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Def / 36 Spd / 48 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed / Psych Up
- Heal Bell
- Recover
- Psychic

I'm sticking with LSeed now but might go with Psych Up for Leeching Lax;
can manage Raikou to an extent.
Don't use Psych Up.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Spd / 220 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunderbolt

Sleep absorb, 1/2 of a Special sponge.

Claydol @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 20 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rapid Spin

DDMence and Tar counter,Spike kill :D

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 116 HP / 248 Atk / 144 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Flying]

A shot at a sweep as it gets 404 speed after 1 DD. I mostly bring this in late game and DD straight up,contrary to the rules, and this sometimes helps me. The moves compliment each other and has the OU metagame covered,except for hax and bulkies.

Thanks for the reply morning storm. I was glad I had not broken any rules.LoL.

I don't know if tar is a good idea when 4 of your pokes take SS damage.

 

[Mablak]

Blissey when > 40% of its HP (which it almost always is ) cannot be KOd by duggy in 1 shot. It will EQ,you get 320-350 damage. You Softboil.Get to the point where you can with stand 2 EQs (about 530 HP) .SToss dugtrio.47% damage.Rinse,lather,repeat. Barring crits,Blissey wins. This is not possible with an Adamant duggy,hence I said "Jolly". BTW I've revamped this team based on Morning_storm's post so I'd like you fellows to rate the second team.

EDIT:Whoops.I didn't see you were posting the second post. Sorry! BTW I use Crunch to get at Celebi and the rare Alakazam,plus Gar switch ins. Maybe I could replace TTar with Mix Gar... any opinions?

 

[z0MG]

Blissey when > 40% of its HP (which it almost always is ) cannot be KOd by duggy in 1 shot. It will EQ,you get 320-350 damage. You Softboil.Get to the point where you can with stand 2 EQs (about 530 HP) .SToss dugtrio.47% damage.Rinse,lather,repeat. Barring crits,Blissey wins.

Ever heard of a thing called critical hit?
Bliss will only win if you're extremely lucky.
._.

 

[Lexay]

yeah he fucking mentioned it in his post you fucking twat
most of the time your critiscism is good zOMG, but i really dont like the way you post
sit the fuck back and chill for once

 

[z0MG]

yeah he fucking mentioned it in his post you fucking twat
most of the time your critiscism is good zOMG, but i really dont like the way you post
sit the fuck back and chill for once

Where did he mention it?
"you fucking twat"
"sit the fuck back"
lol

 

[touched]

Blissey when > 40% of its HP (which it almost always is ) cannot be KOd by duggy in 1 shot. It will EQ,you get 320-350 damage. You Softboil.Get to the point where you can with stand 2 EQs (about 530 HP) .SToss dugtrio.47% damage.Rinse,lather,repeat. Barring crits,Blissey wins.

 

[z0MG]

Should have been "If I'm extremely lucky, Blissey wins."
Just use IB ffs.

 

[Umby]

Ever heard of a thing called critical hit?
Bliss will only win if you're extremely lucky.
._.

I hear the chances of a critical hit from a regular attack happening are less than the chance of Thunder hitting.

 

[snookajam]

uh did zOMG just change 4 members of the team in a double post??? you might as well get a new team for him if you're doing that.

heres what i think about your team based on the 3rd post in this thread
leech seed over psych up in celebi. psych up is really situational, and leech seed is much more useful overall. 2 reasons: after you leech seed you can switch to tyranitar and keep subbing or something like that, or focus punch until you get a critical hit or he rests. if you use psych up, you boost your defence and attack (which would be useless for you). however if he gets a critical hit you die immediately.

you could have perish song on celebi for raikou and forcing switches over heal bell since you have 2 pokemon with rest and one with natural cure. 24 spatk evs on celebi is enough to kill gengar with psychic btw

lastly i don't suggest having explosion on claydol. try toxic or psychic

 

[Bugsy23]

whats up with the critical hit discussion in this topic?

Anyway Hp Ice Raikou will 6-0 this team, and you have a gaping McIceGar weakness, so consider adding Swampert to help out Zapdos and Celebi. Roar Zapdos and/or Perish Song Celebi should take care of any Hp Grass Raikou woes anyway. Spikes support would be nice, although it would be hard to fit in without creating even more problems. I really don't like how Boah fits with this team; Metagross seems to be the better physical wall here.

 

[z0MG]

Anyway Hp Ice Raikou will 6-0 this team

No. Didn't you see bliss?

 

[touched]

Tar/Cune/Cele/Zap/Dol/Mence

he updated it in the 3rd post. And by updated I mean changed four guys.