WHO STOLE MY FUCKING BOAT?!
Gonna hazard a guess at Ditto. I stole it (along with the SoTT) from him N4 and had it the rest of the game. I would've given it back, but eh.
Now, on to the less-easy stuff. I was going to wait until the postgame thread, but I'll find something else to say then, I'm sure.
Everyone seems to be under the impression that the Vikings won purely on luck. Yeah, luck had a fair chunk to do with the game throughout, especially with how little info the Vikings/MPs were able to get, but the point where it ceased to be luck, as I see it, was when Yeti and the MPs screwed up N9 and both targeted LightWolf's alias, leaving both me and LKK with fully-alive roles.
It was obvious that Yeti had been bullshitting me since the moment she said a single word to me. Any "influence" she had on me was just me not really caring enough about her at that point to bother fighting it. And when I asked her for the text of items that I knew she didn't have (the fish, for instance, which was really the Herring, that I had received and given away earlier).
Thinking about lynching UncleSam was prompted by Yeti and her apparent vendetta against him, but, in the end, it came down to the fact that I didn't want a mafia faction with an equal number of fully-alive characters to deal with, since I assumed that they had a TT version of the Herring/Lever. I can say that I didn't consult with LW at all on it, though. Partly because I'd been silenced, and partly because I guess our schedules don't really match up too much. Anyway, after the whole mess it caused, I did feel legitimately bad about KE's role PM/alias getting posted up. But via a prior PR/persuade on him I knew it anyway, so it changed very little in that sense.
UncleSam said:
My only question is who stole all of Tsuk's items Night 9 and, if it was Daenym, why Tsuk didn't get them back. And if Daenym had no items how did he "control the lynch" and thus lynch Tsuk?
Because the whole point of killing LKK and stealing from Daenym was to neuter the Vikings' items...
First part: That was me who stole them. My ability, as you all saw, was priority up. My item gave me a Thief every night.
Waaaay back on D3, Terrador gave me his item, the Giant Hammer. That was the Viking equivalent of the Herring/Lever, and I held onto it for the rest of the game. Later on I received the Herring (I was redirected by KE to hit him, which meant I stole his Herring) and gave it to LW once he was back from his kidnap. And then toward the end I got the Lever, but I don't really remember the details of how that played out, tbh. The Lever was given to LKK after LW was killed, essentially making the Viking duo immune to all non-kills, afaik.
So when Tsuk tried to steal back from me, that's why it failed.
Now, by the end I had a pretty absurd inventory. And if anything about the game is broken, I think it was that endgame inventories had the potential to be so insane.
My inventory before N10 was as follows:
Hrunting - Thief (unstealable, passes to teammate on death)
Hammer - Safeguard
SoTT - w/e
Coconuts - Silence
Phaser - Kidnap
Boat - Silence, but NOC chat allowed
String - Rogue
Commandments - When you kill a user/alias, gain a single-use of their ability
In addition, I had given enough to LKK to let him hold his own if I got nerfed/killed:
Lever - Safeguard
Keys - Silence, NOC chat allowed
Football - Silence
As you can clearly see, I had picked up some fairly redundant items along the way. For me, seeing how the various factions had so many similar items and abilities, this meant the initial game wasn't broken, since everyone had fairly equal power.
I killed Ditto N9, thus gaining a single-use Post Restrict.
So now we come to the D10 lynch. It was either Yeti or Tsuk, since those two were the ones fully alive besides me and LKK. Despite Yeti's hilarious squirming trying to get me to go with Tsuk, it was pretty much a no-brainer, since she had been one of the two people to kill LW's alias. Tsuk, while also a threat, had killed KE (through Yeti's redirect, I guess?), which was more helpful. And then when he posted up Yeti's role PM, even though I assumed it to be fake, it was certainly a nice gesture. While the timing certainly seems suspect, and you're all sure to believe what you want, I had already decided to lynch Yeti before seeing it. I just happened to get on a computer on campus right after he posted it. Not really important, though. Yeti did give accidentally away her alias at one point, though, which meant I finally had the complete list of aliases, despite it not really mattering.
Then we come to the fun part. While Yeti was busy calling me a fathead, roach, and whatever else, I was playing around with the Vikings' sizable inventory.
So the state of things on N10, according to what I knew:
Daenym / Mogilalia - Priority + items galore
LKK / LastStrike - PR + items
Parkeriaceae - Nothing?
Andreaea - Nothing? (see below)
KingofKongs - Priority
Tsuk / fluffy - (see below)
Now, I had looted KE via his redirect earlier, so I assumed Andreaea, his alias, didn't have anything. Even if he did have something, though, I felt confident with the Hammer/Lever protection on me/LKK that we wouldn't be bothered by it. My priority-up kill bypassed BPV items anyway.
Tsuk I really had very little to go on. Yeti had thrown role PMs at me saying they were Tsuk, but, since it was painfully easy to figure out Darth Vader as a role, I didn't put too much trust in them. As it turned out, they were right. Go figure. Anyway, from my own assumptions, I thought he had a kill (parallel of Leonidas), and then Thief/Inspect as a possible secondary, with an LPV item. My assumptions were wrong, obviously, but, like KoK said, it was very difficult for the villages to get reliable info.
Now, my final list of actions was as follows:
Night 10 - Inspire Daenym (priority raise)
Night 10 - Kill Andreaea
Night 10 - Mug Parkeriaceae (thief)
Night 10 - Come sail away Fluffy (boat)
Night 10 - Phase Parkeriaceae (kidnap)
Night 10 - Give coconuts to loudkirbyking
Night 10 - Is Tsuk in the labyrinth? (rogue)
Night 10 - Post restrict KingofKongs (to lynch Tsuk)
KoK had come to me saying he wanted to doublekill Tsuk. The MP s had a namekill that night, I knew from them hitting LW before, so it was totally feasible, barring the fact that it would seal the Viking win. I knew full well that KoK (or whoever the MP killer was) was going to hit me/LKK. And since it would make sense for Tsuk to coordinate with them to weaken me, I was pretty sure that either me or LKK was going to be double-killed that night.
LKK's N10 actions are actually irrelevant. He did redundant PR/silence via ability/boat. No reason in particular, because it was confirmed that his actions would just fail since mine were already in place.
Here's why none of what any of you did mattered.
- Parker was completely shut down by my thief/kidnap, negating his vote easily.
- I expected I would be the target, so I Rogued Tsuk, since I wasn't about to guess on the MP killer. It was too late to give the String to LKK.
- Andrea was priority-killed, and KE was out of the game.
- Tsuk's alias, fluffy, could not vote in the lynch.
- KoK had to vote for Tsuk.
So now the D11 vote is already decided, regardless of which Viking is killed.
KoK, [Vike] : lynch Tsuk
The only thing that could have messed that up was if Tsuk had another LPV item. And I would've just cried then. Had he had a Safeguard item or something, the vote would have ended up 2-1 anyway.
Now, the next thing is N11. Obviously you've seen what happens if I'm the last Viking standing, so let's pretend the double-kill on N10 was hitting me instead.
LKK would have the Viking kill, obviously. His items were Keys, Coconuts, Football, and Lever to protect him. And his ability was a PR.
LKK's actions would be as follows:
Post restrict Parker to lynch himself or a dead user (the latter would be a No Lynch vote)
Kill KingofKongs
LKK's alias would be hit. He removes KingofKongs. Presumably, KoK would have priority-upped the kill (or priority-downed LKK, which fails via Lever), preventing the item from being used. But since Parker had no items and the Lever protected LKK from any last item trickery anyway (had something been unstealable, I guess), he would be sitting safely.
D12.
LKK : lynch Parker
Parker : No Lynch/lynch Parker
Viking is the last man standing.
So no, it didn't come down to the Vikings' remaining person having higher kill priority, since the game would've been ended in the lynch, before kill priority came into play. The one and only question here is what would have happened to the SoTT after my death. Because LKK's alias was dead, he wouldn't be able to use my Thief (passed to him on my death). But then it comes down to a question of "If there's only one username alive, can he pick up an item?" The absolute worst case scenario of that is that the game ended with no winners, since the SoTT was lost. But I doubt that.
As it actually played out, I
did have a raised priority, meaning my Silence item (lets say the Boat) was able to hit Parker before my alias was killed. Even if KoK had priority-downed me to negate my ability, the Hammer would have blocked it. And so the D12 vote was:
Daenym : lynch Parker
Parker : [silenced]
Anyway, this didn't come down to a 50/50 of KoK picking the wrong target. I had an extremely broken combination by that point, and LKK's inventory wasn't far behind. We each acted as each other's contingency plan, knowing full well that Tsuk/KoK were coming for us. XD
I will say one thing, though, that Von pointed out in IRC. Me being able to priority-up myself was probably the most broken thing in the game. Even more broken was that I was able to do it while holding the Hammer.
Edit:
Honestly, I kinda take that back after thinking about it on my drive home. Regardless of how broken anything was, the fact was that almost all abilities/items had more than one incarnation. Therefore, factions had equally broken power. Had KoK been given the Herring and Excalibur he would've been identical to me. The Greeks/TTs wouldn't have been able to emulate what I was perfectly, but the presence of reliable Inspects on their factions meant that most (if not all) of their kills and other actions could be much more efficiently targeted.
I think one of the biggest mistakes the Vikings as a whole made was not lynching Paperblade right after the No Lynch early on (D5 or so? Too lazy to check). We pretty much knew he was BG+Resurrect, and it would've saved a lot of stress had the MPs not brought back KoK. But that's more for actual postgame talk :O