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Standards for Grammar / Spelling, What a Good Writer Looks out for

Discussion in 'Archives' started by Jumpman16, Dec 27, 2007.

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  1. cim

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    Superpower is less than 12 letters (and is one word in the english dictionary) so capitalizing "SuperPower" doesn't fit within the first rule.
  2. diinbong

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    I assume Base Power is not capatilized but may someone please confirm? Sorry if this was already brought up.

    oh and another question. When Pokemon types are used in a list, what is the popular punctuation?

    Steel- and Water-type
    Steel and Water-type

    Fire-, Steel-, and Water-type
    Fire , Steel , and Water-type

    etc. I'm just asking because I saw a few variations.

    Also, for consistancy's sake, I assume we're using all american forms of words.
  3. cim

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    Yes, American English is used on Smogon.

    Steel and Water-types is the way to do it, I think.

    I always use "Base Power" because it's a game term that's always capitalized in game, but I could be wrong.
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    "switch in", "switchin" or "switch-in", referring to a Pokemon that often switches in on another?

    e.g. "Scizor is a common switch in / switchin / switch-in to Latias"
  5. twash

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    "Scizor is a common switch-in to Latias."
    "Scizor is a common switch into Latias."
  6. diinbong

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    Are terms like Speed Tier and Base Power capitalized?

    edit: thanks
  7. darkie

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    Base Power, yes, since that's what Nintendo uses. Speed tiers are an object of the community, so no. It would be Speed tier.
  8. twash

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    Something that seems to trip me up:

    Statting up? or Stating up?

    The former just looks and sounds weird, and the latter is more like stating a fact!

    I'd probably go for statting..
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    Personally, I'd just avoid using that phrase entirely. However, "stating" is actually a word that means something completely different from what we intend it too. So, I'd use "statting"; but again my preference is to just avoid using that entirely.
  10. darkie

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    [02:49:24] <Twash> is it
    [02:49:26] <Twash> statting up
    [02:49:26] <Twash> or stating
    [02:49:46] <darkie> post about it in the grammar standards thread!
    [02:49:55] <darkie> they both look weird
    [02:50:02] <darkie> try to just avoid it
  11. kd24

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    this just started bugging me, when listing pokemon types would it be for example:


    Fire-, Bug-, and Ice-types

    or

    Fire, Bug, and Ice-types

    i used the latter but i saw katherine use the former. are both correct, or is there a preferred one?
  12. Jimbo

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    The former is usually (always?) correct.
  13. darkie

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    I use the first.
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    I have always used the latter because I'm cool like that.
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    If you ought to use it I would go with "stat uping".
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    I've had a few English professors express disdain for the relatively new trend of adding 'up's at the end of certain verbs where they're not needed. xD

    If anything, I'd put them together to make them a specific phrase, and change it into a noun.
    "Stat-up"
    "Stat-upping"

    But I suppose that's too complicated and annoying. D:
  17. darkie

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    What do you guys think about me HTMLizing this thing over the weekend and subsequently putting it on site so we can have a more permanent reference list for all this grammar, spelling, etc. stuff? (This thread, of course, would remain here to help keep it updated.)

    http://www.smogon.com/articles/grammar_standards
  18. darkie

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    Can I please get somebody to double check the capitalization of U-turn in game, preferably with a picture or something?

    edit: thanks havak :)
  19. Havak

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    U-turn is "U-turn" when listed as a TM in your Bag or when listed on any Pokémon's move-set. However, in-battle, U-turn is for some reason changed to "U-Turn". Since we're using the TM listed or move-set versions of U-turn, we should, and do use "U-turn" as the correct form. If we want Shoddy Battle 2 to have 100% correct battle logs, it should be "U-Turn" there, but since that's still in development, doesn't need to be discussed here, and quite frankly hardly makes a difference, it doesn't matter.

    U-turn is correct, use it.
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    Is the suspect metagame supposed to be capitalized like the Overused and Underused names are?
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    I think Suspect should be capitalized, if only for consistency's sake.

    edit: on second thought, suspect is not exactly a "tier".
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    I only ask because I noticed it was not capitalized in the Stage 3 Suspect Metagame Analysis article, and couldn't decide if it needed to be corrected or not.
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    I would like to point out that "outspeed" is technically not a word. Try to use "outpace" or "outrun".

    Also ignore any post after this by darkie claiming that we have coined a new word. :)
  24. darkie

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    [02:43:54] <%Stellar> is there a specific rule in grammar thread
    [02:43:59] <%Stellar> about using the word outspeed
    [02:44:05] <%Stellar> because technically
    [02:44:08] <%darkie> not that i remember
    [02:44:08] <%Stellar> outspeed isn't a word
    [02:44:11] <%darkie> technically it's not a word
    [02:44:18] <%Stellar> yeah
    [02:44:18] <%darkie> outrun is though
    [02:44:22] <%Stellar> :\
    [02:44:26] <%Stellar> outpace
    [02:44:26] <%Stellar> etc
    [02:44:32] <%darkie> yup
    [02:44:42] <%darkie> i'd like to think we coined a new word though

    any thoughts?
  25. twash

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    I quite like outspeed, but if there's that much of a problem I think outpace and outrun both work - it doesn't really matter. Outspeed is fine in my view, but maybe that's because I have used it so much!
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