So not Forry
I’m Psylink, doing a support set for Arceus-Steel
So I like Arceus-Steel, it works nicely. I knew it was a bit of a higher priority than some of the other Arceus forms, so here I am! Feel free to nitpick as if there isn't a user named Theorymon to do it for you!
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Skeleton
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Will-O-Wisp
move 2: Roar / Perish Song
move 3: Recover
move 4: Ice Beam / Judgment
item: Iron Plate
ability: Multitype
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
-Walls and outspeeds a normally EVed Extreme Killer Arceus and many others.
-Can burn to cripple defensive Pokemon and physical attackers with Will-o-Wisp.
-Can phase with the move of choice: Roar is a faster way of getting them out, while Perish Song is a good game finisher.
-Has reliable recovery with Recover.
-EVs are designed to take abuse from physical attacks.
-Is only a check to Arceus-Normal. If you know it has Lum Berry, then use something else to answer it.
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
-Setup bait for many Pokemon, like Forretress and Groudon, and Groudon can hit hard with it’s STAB, but is neutered by WoW, and can't take repeated Judgements.
-Loves hazards from the Deoxys forme of choice (Roar or Perish Song can phaze nicely)
-Loves Kyogre, but isn’t required to function. If there isn’t Kyogre, then a Fire resist is ideal.
-Frail sweepers are good teammates, as a big revenge killer is neutered. Mewtwo is a good example.
-Dragon-types can't be used as freely, as Arceus-Steel walls physical sets, but can decently wall special attacks as well.
-Can run Stealth Rock, but that means getting rid of a means of attack, recovery, the ability to neuter physical attackers, or phazing. They are all important, but you can decide what to replace.
-Toxic can be ran over Will-o-Wisp to cripple Calm Mind users and defensive Pokemon.
-Timid outspeeds Adamant Arceus-Normal, and speed ties with Jolly, unless using Extreme Speed, but that's rather pointless on it's part.
-Can outspeed Rayquaza and Kyurem-W with 56 Spe EVs, and 176 for standard Lati@s sets.
name: Defensive
move 1: Will-O-Wisp
move 2: Roar / Perish Song
move 3: Recover
move 4: Ice Beam / Judgment
item: Iron Plate
ability: Multitype
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
-Walls and outspeeds a normally EVed Extreme Killer Arceus and many others.
-Can burn to cripple defensive Pokemon and physical attackers with Will-o-Wisp.
-Can phase with the move of choice: Roar is a faster way of getting them out, while Perish Song is a good game finisher.
-Has reliable recovery with Recover.
-EVs are designed to take abuse from physical attacks.
-Is only a check to Arceus-Normal. If you know it has Lum Berry, then use something else to answer it.
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
-Setup bait for many Pokemon, like Forretress and Groudon, and Groudon can hit hard with it’s STAB, but is neutered by WoW, and can't take repeated Judgements.
-Loves hazards from the Deoxys forme of choice (Roar or Perish Song can phaze nicely)
-Loves Kyogre, but isn’t required to function. If there isn’t Kyogre, then a Fire resist is ideal.
-Frail sweepers are good teammates, as a big revenge killer is neutered. Mewtwo is a good example.
-Dragon-types can't be used as freely, as Arceus-Steel walls physical sets, but can decently wall special attacks as well.
-Can run Stealth Rock, but that means getting rid of a means of attack, recovery, the ability to neuter physical attackers, or phazing. They are all important, but you can decide what to replace.
-Toxic can be ran over Will-o-Wisp to cripple Calm Mind users and defensive Pokemon.
-Timid outspeeds Adamant Arceus-Normal, and speed ties with Jolly, unless using Extreme Speed, but that's rather pointless on it's part.
-Can outspeed Rayquaza and Kyurem-W with 56 Spe EVs, and 176 for standard Lati@s sets.
[SET]
name: Utility Support
move 1: Will-O-Wisp
move 2: Roar / Perish Song
move 3: Recover
move 4: Ice Beam / Judgment
item: Iron Plate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is a great choice for a supportive Pokemon. While it might lack the Leftovers recovery that other Steel-types—such as Ferrothorn, Jirachi, and Skarmory—offer, Steel Arceus's superior stats and wider movepool set it apart. In fact, it is both the fastest and specially bulkiest Steel-type in Ubers. </p>
<p>Steel Arceus is one of the few Steel-type Pokemon to learn Will-O-Wisp, so it's a given on a defensive set, as it allows Steel Arceus to cripple most physical attackers. Note that this isn't a sure-fire way to cripple Normal Arceus, as Will-O-Wisp's shaky accuracy can result in it taking heavy damage from a Swords Dance-boosted Normal Arceus. However, because most Normal Arceus don't run maximum Speed, Steel Arceus can act as an emergency check to it if your team is running out of options to deal with it.</p>
<p>Recover is the other major jewel in Steel Arceus's crown, ensuring that unlike most other Steel-types, it isn't forced to rely on Wish, Rest, or other less reliable methods of healing. Steel Arceus's longevity also makes it a great phazer. Roar is the reliable and immediate option for phazing, while Perish Song is a slower, more risky method that has the advantage of dooming the last Pokemon standing, but Roar is far more reliable in most situations. When it comes to offensive options, Ice Beam is the prime choice, as it allows Steel Arceus to damage a wide variety of Ice-weak Pokemon, such as Rayquaza and Landorus, and also deals good damage to Groudon, Giratina-O, and Zekrom. Judgment's coverage isn't nearly as good, but it hits Kyurem-W, Terrakion, and Tyranitar super-effectively, while also being stronger than Ice Beam against neutral targets. Kyurem-W in particular can actually defeat Steel Arceus that don't run Judgment with Fusion Flare, Focus Blast, or Earth Power. </p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Steel Arceus has a few other options up its sleeve, but finding moves to replace is tough, as removing Will-O-Wisp or its phazing move lessens Steel Arceus's utility and replacing its attacking move makes Steel Arceus even bigger Taunt bait. Stealth Rock is an option if your team is desperate to fit in the entry hazard, while Toxic allows Steel Arceus to cripple Ho-Oh switch-ins and dangerous Calm Mind users. If your team is extremely weak to Ho-Oh, Steel Arceus also has the more direct option of running Stone Edge. Finally, Magic Coat prevents Ferrothorn and other Spikers from setting up hazards and can surprise Deoxys-S leads (though note that Fire Punch 4HKOes Steel Arceus outside of rain).</p>
<p>The Speed investment lets Steel Arceus tie with offensive Arceus formes, but if you prefer a bulkier set and don't mind losing a little bit of Speed, you can run anywhere from 176 Speed EVs and a Timid nature to outspeed Latias and Latios, or a Calm or Bold nature with 168 Speed EVs to outspeed Rayquaza and Kyurem-W.</p>
<p>Because Steel Arceus is such a great phazer, it's only natural that Spikes users such as the Deoxys formes, Forretress, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory make good choices as teammates, despite the typing redundancies. However, Steel Arceus itself is very vulnerable to being set up on by hazard setters, so spinners such as Forretress, Tentacruel, Excadrill, and Kabutops are good teammates. There is always the riskier option of Espeon or Xatu to block hazards from going up; of the two, the former is preferred due to its decent offensive stats.</p>
<p>Steel Arceus has serious problems with several common Pokemon on sun teams, including Ho-Oh, Kyurem-W (when not using Judgment), and Reshiram; the threat of other dangerous special attackers such as Ground Arceus, Fighting Arceus, and Kyogre make it important to also cover Water-, Fighting-, and Ground-type attacks. All of this makes Kyogre an excellent teammate. Not only does Kyogre nullify Steel Arceus's weaknesses to sun teams with Drizzle, it can also use Fighting Arceus and Ground Arceus as platforms to launch its torrential assault. In return, Steel Arceus does a good job of checking Latias for Kyogre. Just be warned, however, that even bulky Kyogre will take a lot from Ho-Oh's Brave Bird. When it comes to typing synergy, floating Dragon-types with Levitate—such as Giratina-O and Latias—partner well with Steel Arceus, as they are resistant or immune to all of its weaknesses while Steel Arceus covers theirs.</p>
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