I still disallow tiering discussion. Sorry if there's another thread hith tis name, but I couldn't find any. Maggyo Type: Electric/Ground Egg Group: Water 1/Unknown Gender Ratio: 50:50 Stats:109 HP/66 Atk/84 Def/81 Sp.Atk/99 Sp.Def/32 Spe Abilities: Static: If attacked by a contact move, the attacker has 30% of being Paralyzed Limber: This pokémon cannot be affected by Paralysis. Sand Veil: During Sandstorm, this pokémon evasion raises one level Moves: Hide (Move your mouse to the hide area to reveal the content) Show Hide Hide Hide New moves in Italic Lv.-: Mud Slap Lv.-: Mud Sport Lv.5: Bide Lv.9: Thundershock Lv.13: Mud Shot Lv.17: Camouflage Lv.21: Mud Bomb Lv.25: Discharge Lv.30: Endure Lv.35: Bounce Lv.40: Muddy Water Lv.45: Thunderbolt Lv.50: Revenge Lv.55: Flail Lv.61: Fissure TMs: Hide (Move your mouse to the hide area to reveal the content) Show Hide Hide Hide TM06: Toxic TM10: Hidden Power TM17: Protect TM18: Rain Dance TM21: Frustration TM24: Thunderbolt TM25: Thunder TM26: Earthquake TM27: Return TM28: Dig TM32: Double Team TM34: Sludge Wave (Poison speciaal, 95BP, 10PP, 100%, may poison) TM36: Sludge Bomb TM37: Sandstorm TM39: Rock Tomb TM42: Facade TM44: Rest TM45: Attract TM48: Troll (Normal special, 60BP, 15PP, 100% hit, increases power if the ally uses) TM55: Boiling Water (Water special, 80BP, 15PP, 100% hit, may burn) TM66: Payback TM70: Flash TM71: Stone Edge TM73: Thunder Wave TM78: Level Ground (Ground physical, 60BP, 20PP, 100% hit, lowers foe's Speed) TM80: Rock Slide TM87: Swagger TM90: Substitute HM03: Surf Breeding Hide (Move your mouse to the hide area to reveal the content) Show Hide Hide Hide Shock Wave Earth Power Spark Sleep Talk Pain Split Curse Astonish Spark Yawn Overview WTF is this thing? Really, this thing is meant to be an electric fish, right? Shape aside, Maggyo is a unique pokémon. Really, unique type, unique niche, unique shape... Sorry, but this thing is really ugly to not comment. Defensively, his type is quite weak. Electric/Ground, althoug immune to Electric and resistant to Rock, Poison, Flying and Steel, he's weak to Grass, Ice, Water and Ground, and the three latter are very common. Its defenses are nice, though. 109/84/99 defenses are good, and his support movepool is cool as it includes Boiling Water, Thunder Wave, Yawn, Rain Dance and the ever favorite Toxic. The lack of a reliable movepool aside Pain Split hurts sometimes, but it can Restalk. Offensively, Maggyo is mediocre. Even though he gets STAB in two of the best STABs to have, EQ and T-Bolt, 66 base Atk is too low to EQ, and 84 base Sp.Atk cannot even OHKO Mantine. He has good offensive movepool, but he simply can't abuse it. In resume, he is not good, but he is moderate if you play its strenghs. Just a quick tip, don't use it at a beauty contest. Possible movesets that I can remember now. Paradox: A beauty set for an ugly pokémon @Leftovers Ability: Whatever. All are meh for him Bold Nature/Relaxed Nature EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 Sp.Def ~ Discharge ~ Boiling Water ~ Rest ~ Sleep Talk Too bad this thing doesn't get any entry hazard. Oh well, this is the best it can do and is for stalling pruposes. Discharge is preferred than Thunderbolt because you are not going to hit anyone with your paltry Sp.Atk anyway. Discharge also has a nice 30% chance of paralyzing. Boiling Water complements Discharge well and has 30% chance of burning (The only one that cannot be either burned or paralyzed by Discharge is Camerupt, who is weak to Water. Stay away frow him, however). Rest and Sleep Talk are for survivability. This thing can paralyze, burn, poison, put to sleep and scary. Especially scary @Leftovers Ability: Whatever. All are meh for him Calm Nature/Sassy Nature EVs: 252 HP/68 Def/188 Sp.Def ~ Discharge ~ Boiling Water/Yawn/Toxic ~ Boiling Water/Yawn/Toxic ~ Pain Split Status plataform set. Discharge had alrady been discussed early. The second and third move are whatever you want to inflict, if is Burn (Boiling Water), Put to Sleep (Yawn), or Poison (Toxic). Pain Split is your only method of recovering, so use it, pal. Feces Face makes rain. Politoed too and doesn't need a move @Damp Rock Ability: Whatever. All are meh for him Calm Nature EVs: 252 HP/4 Sp.Atk/252 Sp.Def ~ Rain Dance ~ Thunder ~ Surf/Boiling Water ~ Pain Split Forget about it if Politoed doesn't get banned. Set up Rain Dance and abuse your STAB Thunder with its sexy 120 BP and 30% chance of paralyze. Surf X Boiling Water is power X burn. Pain Split is for bad recovery since it doesn't get better things. Thanks for this one, Crimson assassin. Just need a suggestive name for the set. @Leftovers Ability: Static Bold Nature 252 HP /200 Def/58 Sp.Def Thunderbolt Pain split Yawn/ hp ice Boiling water The point of this set is to either to either get the burn off and ride this guy out until he is low on hp then you can yawn to force a switch then pain split on the switch or if you get the para had from static just throw out the pain split anyway because you will be faster. Hp ice are for those of us who want some form of coverage against grass seeing as you have two chances of status anyway yawn can be dropped but you may lose some ability to guarantee switches will be made Feel free to discuss it and admins, for closing it if there's something wrong. Next analysis: Torunerosu or Morobareru.