Sunday Mafia - Postgame Yep. Signups Game Thread Scum Quicktopic | Graveyard Quicktopic Hosting Notes: The premise behind this game's setup was to leave more room for scumhunting and manip compared to last game, in which the scumteam ended up dead via process of elimination. Backing this up, I had faith that the playerlist would deliver. The original town setup had a lover mason pair that was to be protected through meatshield von. Then there were the two other roles to keep things fresh and lively. In general one thing I wanted to make sure was that things wouldn't get boring; posting restrictions were here for that reason. It's unfortunate that the game slowed down during D2 regardless. Not to get off-topic, the mafia setup was, in my opinion, just as strong as the town equivalent - by that I mean it was relatively powerless (Janitor and Activator awarding good play, useless otherwise) with a negative role in the Beloved Princess. Having two 'negative' factors in each faction worked out; if one of the roles got lynched, the game would have even-numbered player amount until the other got lynched as well. If both of them survived till LYLO, though, the plan was to cancel them out to prevent an insta-win for scum. Speaking of the lover masons, let's cover hosting decisions. The first is the big one - some of you already guessed it, but here it is for those of you still in the dark: Exhibit A (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Exhibit A (open) Exhibit A (close) Welcome to Sunday Mafia, Itchni! You are Positive Pedro, Town Lover Mason. You are a very positive person! You know this conflict is nothing but some good fun. The idea of having to brutally jump someone doesn't appeal to you, though. You'd rather think that players go to Funland Amusement Park when they're lynched, where trees are made of licorice and rides have no lines. Your posts should reflect that to some degree. In addition, Negative Nadia, your soulmate, will be with you in this conflict. You complete eachother in such a way that it will be impossible for the other to go on if one of you gets removed from the game. You are also confirmed town to eachother. She is Aura Guardian, and you may converse at any time in this quicktopic while you are alive. You win if all threats to town are removed from the game. Exhibit B (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Exhibit B (open) Exhibit B (close) Welcome to Sunday Mafia, Aura Guardian! You are Negative Nadia, Town Lover Mason. This is all a huge hassle, isn't it? Why put trust in a group of people that are as informed as sheep? You'll be hoping for this display to end as soon as possible. At the very least, you're not alone. Positive Pedro, your soulmate, will be with you in this conflict. You complete eachother in such a way that it will be impossible for the other to go on if one of you gets removed from the game. You are also confirmed town to eachother. He is Itchni, and you may converse at any time in this quicktopic while you are alive. You win if all threats to town are removed from the game. Exhibit C (Move your mouse to reveal the content) Exhibit C (open) Exhibit C (close) http://quicktopic.com/48/H/L84PvP2VJ5qp (Hint: URLs) Immediate subbing out was in order. I was lucky enough to have an immediate fix to the problem - they were already close enough to being one slot, so all I had to do was merge them. I had to do this because their substitutions would essentially get insta-cleared once they claimed, and I wasn't going to have the equivalent of two innocent child roles. In the end, town earned an innocent child but lost the voice of Itchni and AG. This was a really unfortunate slip on my end because it was a simple mistake that cost me the base of my setup and two vocal players. As they say, though, the show must go on. The other two active hosting decisions were killing Ullar and extending D2. The former barely needs an explanation - by doing that publicly like a spoil sport he basically cleared his slot, and no substitution was going to fix that (even if I had substitutions!). As for the extension, I shouldn't have given it away - the third 24 hours were a waste of time. Funny thing about that; I'd already randed the lynch after the first 48 hours, and it was going to be aska anyway, regardless of majority. The one last thing that needs to be gone over is actually pretty important: the silencer shens. It's one of those things that shouldn't be in the rules because they go under "be a good sport", but I don't blame DLE too much since it was way too tempting to pass up. Once DLE played the role of silence victim and essentially skipped D2, I couldn't simply note that no silencers exist because that would be the equivalent of outing him as scum. The best solution was to wait till it goes away. I'm a bit disappointed at the players here, though - silencers in NOC is bullshit to lynch over, and I'm pretty sure I've personally shown my disapproval here before. Oh well. I might as well talk about the graveyard experiment - I wanted to see how well it'd work here, and, well, as expected, there wasn't an example set anywhere, and the game wasn't that interesting to comment on seriously anyway, so not much happened with it. The basic idea is to enjoy the paranoia with all the other dead folks until the game ends, yelling at living players for being dumb and not lynching the obvscum (via hindsight, yeah!!). It's usually pretty fun until someone gets too mad. Role PMs: Not much to say here. It's unfortunate that I had to insert another Innocent Child to the setup after UllarWarlord's stellar use of the role in the last game, but what's done is done. He showed up once in a while and shared his thoughts, which is the bare minimum. As I said before, this was the town meatshield. You're basically meant act as a usual doc, unless you know without a doubt that you're better to be around than the guy you're targeting. In von's case... he was a pretty big liability in LYLO (the results speak for themselves), so choosing to idle wasn't the best move, but I'm not going to fault him for it, especially since he saw things in a very different light 99% of the time. A classic case of "I don't know what color is scum" - he was hunting alright, but not for the right things. It's easy thinking scum are those who disagree with you, but more often than not the opposite is true - scum usually won't tangle themselves in heated arguments for no reason. His effort was admirable, though. This role was meant to add some spice to the game. The boxes did nothing - I never lied about that, I simply said that he had them (sure, maybe I did hint at hook/bg/inspect a LITTLE bit). Paperblade went on minimal contribution but he was usually right... until D2, anyway. He was better in Company, unfortunately. The other 'interesting' role. This one's meant to make people raise their brow when it's claimed. It was never a factor, though. ifm did a good job seeming town but kind of like Paperblade he kind of steered away from the right track as the game went on. Pinpointing the reason for this is pretty hard, since it wasn't just those two but the town collectively. ALL CAPS. It hurt to see Walrein suffer from this pr, it's usually pretty fun and EMPOWERING, oh well. He did well for the short time he was around. It's still an enigma how the hell he ended up being lynched, I really want people to fill me in on that one. If only he'd been around for D2 as well and VB was lynched... Powerrole indeed. Jalmont made me flip my shit when he avoided voting even ONCE. Party pooper. No postgame comments for you. He actually played alright until he decided to not give a shit and fuck the entire town over his game-related anger. Own up and contact me privately. If everyone could hold back their rage, you were able to do it too. Prime example of people that need listing. Come back when you're a little more mature. Oh man. For someone that was an obvious MVP candidate for catching DLE within the first 24 hours, you sure had a disappointing finish. A little less jarring than the Walrein lynch, but even here I find it hard to understand how he got lynched over LYLO-bait Agape. Ah well. Considering everyone had an off D2, you weren't alone. I do want to know where that DLE suspicion disappeared to, though. >:( Both you and von lacked that crucial experience to let go and accept that you're town slapfighting. A big part of NOC is to learn and improve, so it's not too bad. Like von, you put in plenty of effort and that's one of the requirements for good town play. As this is the last VT, it's worth mentioning that, like last game, pretty much all the VTs died first (with the exception of Paperblade, but that's close enough). Good show. I'd rank his scum play here as above average, and that was more than enough to carry him to as many LYLOs as he wanted. He'd be pretty hard to catch, to be sure, and I doubt town would manage it even in a good LYLO. His insights in the scum topic were also correct pretty much 100% of the time, it's a shame he listened to DLE most of the time though, whose insights were way worse. :) A little lesson in mafia: lurking is the best and most common scum strategy. He really should have been the D1 lynch; his play was worse than in last game, and compared to Walrein, his wagon should have been a slam dunk. I don't really know what happened - the scumteam were pretty much accepting it with DLE almost singlehandedly giving the final push. Fortunately for him, aska came to the rescue with the completely unneeded switch to Walrein. That was quite the spectacle. I wouldn't say his D2 was stellar either but apparently it was enough to carry him to LYLO, so there's that. Not gonna lie, his ED1 was practically begging to be called out for and thankfully aska delivered, but failed to carry it out fully. He also SHOULD have accidentally nailed VB if not for what happened, and the silencer thing is still kind of disappointing, but his overall effort made up for it. Not his best game, but that's fine. Overblown Award Ceremony: Town MVP goes to Walrein! Scum MVP and Overall MVP goes to MeowMixx! Most Committed Player goes to vonFiedler and Agape, split in half! Enormous Killjoy goes to Jalmont, the shady fucker! Next game is 9p, 6vt/1doc/2goon, I'm not hosting, Y/N?