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Sunflora

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Jellicent, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. Jellicent

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    Taken over from Lady Salamence; old post here

    [Overview]

    <p>Based solely on appearances, Sunflora is not the most threatening Pokemon around. That harmless guise is just a ploy, however. If every rose has its thorns, this sunflower comes packing a full-on machete. Base 105 Special Attack might seem only above average, but with a boost from Solar Power in the sun, it can be deadly. Sunflora's decent-at-best bulk and terrible Speed aren't winning it any awards, however. Though Sunflora can use Chlorophyll to make up for its lacking speed, its Special Attack ceases to be as impressive as it is with Solar Power and it becomes sorely outclassed by the likes of Exeggutor. It might be slow and frail, but this flower packs one hell of a punch. It's also super cute!</p>

    [SET]
    name: Sunny Day
    move 1: Sunny Day
    move 2: SolarBeam
    move 3: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire
    move 4: Morning Sun / Earth Power
    item: Heat Rock
    ability: Solar Power / Chlorophyll
    nature: Timid
    evs: 20 HP / 252 SpA / 236 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Sunny Day is the first move Sunflora should be using, unless sun is already up; otherwise, it fails to be effective at anything. SolarBeam is Sunflora's main weapon, as its high Base Power, STAB, and lack of a charge turn in sun is a huge draw. Hidden Power Rock offers good coverage, though Hidden Power Fire is also a solid choice, and it gets a boost from sun to boot. Morning Sun is the best option for the last slot, as Sunflora's health is slowly depleted each turn by Solar Power and Morning Sun heals an impressive 66% in sun. Earth Power is an option for greater coverage, however, and becomes a pseudo-QuakeEdge combination alongside Hidden Power Rock.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>A Timid nature and 236 Speed EVs allow Sunflora to outrun as many foes as possible. Special Attack is also maximized for greatest damage output, with the remnants used in HP, giving Sunflora an extra bit of bulk. Solar Power allows Sunflora to hit as hard as possible, though Chlorophyll is an option for more Speed. Unfortunately, Exeggutor has Sunflora beat as a special attacking Chlorophyll sweeper. Heat Rock is the preferred item, as it increases the duration of sun to eight turns, which Sunflora deeply needs to accomplish anything. If your team already has plenty of sun support, however, Life Orb is an option for even more damage. Bear in mind that the added residual damage from Life Orb and Solar Power will quickly drain Sunflora's health.</p>

    <p>Anything that benefits from sun will obviously appreciate Sunflora setting it up. While Exeggutor might outclass it as a Chlorophyll sweeper, the two can be used alongside one another to weaken their counters. Victreebel and Shiftry are also great partners, as their physical attacks can break through special walls for Sunflora. Magmortar is one of the top threats in the tier, and it becomes all the more potent under sun. Regirock is another great ally, as it can set up Sunny Day and lures in Water-types that Sunflora can easily switch in against. Mesprit can also set up Sunny Day later in the battle, and can use Healing Wish to bring a battered Sunflora back in at full health.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Sunflora has access to Encore, which can be useful in helping a teammate set up. It can also set up on its own with Growth, which boosts its Attack and Special Attack by two stages under sun, but Sunflora's frailty limits its opportunities to set up. Substitute can be used to ease prediction and protect against status, but the loss of HP from Solar Power means that Sunflora's lifespan will be cut even shorter. Finally, Sunflora can function as a suicide sun lead, setting up Sunny Day while clinging to life with a Focus Sash. With a Speed boost from Chlorophyll, it can then abuse a quick Endeavor to severely weaken its opponent.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Being both slow and frail, Sunflora is not exactly a tough foe to defeat. Fast sweepers, such as Jynx and Rotom-S, can outspeed even Chlorophyll Sunflora in sun and easily OHKO it. Choice Scarf users in general will outspeed and have little trouble revenge killing the frail Sunflora. If Sunflora doesn't run Hidden Power Rock, Braviary becomes a huge threat as well. Anything that can tank a SolarBeam, such as Amoonguss, can also easily beat Sunflora.</p>
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    Sunflora Analysis (open)
    [Overview]

    <p>Based solely on appearances, Sunflora is not the most threatening Pokemon around. That harmless guise is just a ploy, however. If every rose has its thorns, this sunflower comes packing a full(Hyphen) on machete. Base 105 Special Attack might seem only above average, but with a boost from Solar Power in the sun, it can be deadly. Its Sunflora's decent(Hyphen) at(Hyphen) best bulk and terrible Speed isn't aren't winning it any awards, however. Though it Sunflora can use Chlorophyll to make up for that, its Special Attack ceases to be as impressive and it becomes sorely outclassed by the likes of Exeggutor. It might be slow and frail, but this flower packs one hell of a punch. It's also super cute!</p>

    [SET]
    name: Sunny Day
    move 1: Sunny Day
    move 2: SolarBeam
    move 3: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire
    move 4: Morning Sun / Earth Power
    item: Heat Rock
    ability: Solar Power / Chlorophyll
    nature: Timid
    evs: 20 HP / 252 SpA / 236 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Sunny Day is the first move Sunflora should be using, unless sun is already up; otherwise, it fails to be effective at anything. SolarBeam is its Sunflora's main weapon, as its high Base Power, STAB, and lack of needed charging a charge turn in the sun is a huge draw. Hidden Power Rock offers good coverage, though Hidden Power Fire is also a solid choice, and it gets a boost from the sun to boot. Morning Sun is the best option for the last slot, as Sunflora's health is slowly depleted each turn from by Solar Power and Morning Sun heals an impressive 66.67% in the sun. Earth Power is an option for greater coverage, however, and becomes a pseudo-QuakeEdge combination alongside Hidden Power Rock.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>A Timid nature and 236 Speed EVs allows it Sunflora to outrun as many foes as possible. Special Attack is also maximized for greatest damage output, with the remnants giving Sunflora an extra bit of bulk. Solar Power allows Sunflora to hit as hard as possible, though Chlorophyll is an option for more Speed. Unfortunately, Exeggutor has Sunflora beat when it comes to the special attacking Chlorophyll abusers schtick. Heat Rock is the preferred item, as it increases the length duration of the sun to eight turns, which Sunflora deeply needs to accomplish anything. If your team already has plenty of sun support, however, Life Orb is an option for even more damage. Bear in mind that the added residual damage from Life Orb and Solar Power will quickly lead to Sunflora's demise drain Sunflora's HP.</p>

    <p>Anything that benefits from the sun will obviously appreciate Sunflora setting it up. While Exeggutor might outclass it as a Chlorophyll abuser, the two can be used alongside one another to weaken their counters. Victreebel and Shiftry are also great partners, as their physical attacks can break through special walls for Sunflora. Magmortar is one of the top threats in the tier, and it becomes all the more potent under the sun. Regirock is another great ally, as it can set up the sun and lures in Water-types that Sunflora can easily switch in against. Mesprit can also set up Sunny Day later in the battle, and can use Healing Wish to bring a battered Sunflora back in at full health.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Sunflora has access to Encore, which can be useful in helping a teammate set up. It can also set up on its own with Growth, which boosts its Attack and Special Attack by +2 under the sun, but its frailty limits its opportunities to set up. Substitute can be used to ease prediction and protect against status, but the loss of HP from Solar Power means that Sunflora's lifespan will be cut even shorter. Finally, it Sunflora can function as a suicide sun lead, setting up Sunny Day while clinging to life with a Focus Sash. With a Speed boost from Chorophyll Chlorophyll, it can then abuse a quick Endeavor to severely weaken its opponent.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Being both slow and frail, Sunflora is not exactly a tough foe to defeat. Fast sweepers, such as Jynx and Rotom-S, can outspeed even Chlorophyll Sunflora in the sun and easily OHKO it. Choice Scarf users in general will outspeed and have little trouble revenge killing the frail Sunflora. If Sunflora doesn't run Hidden Power Rock, Braviary becomes a huge threat as well. Anything that can tank a SolarBeam, such as Amoonguss, can also easily beat Sunflora.</p>


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  3. Jellicent

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    Thanks, NoBlue!

    Updated this at work. Gotta focus on my real job: Smogon <3

    Next GPer, come at me bro.
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    holy shit Steamroll isn't a bum for once...

    EDIT: lol, I can't find anything wrong.... just copypaste again for posterity, brah!

    EDIT 2: TrollFreak :D

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    "only above average" seems a bit pretentious? Or maybe it just sounds like brag-plaining. Either way I'd change it to read as something along the lines of:

    "Sunflora's base 105 Special Attack seems to be the only good thing it has going for it, especially when magnified by Solar Power." And then remove the "however" in the next sentence? It's Jelli's decision, but that's my two cents.

    Nature isn't capitalized.

    I think schtick is fine, but if it's being changed to "set" then "abuser" should probably be replaced with "abusing"

    Spelling and Grammar wants to cut down on the overuse of "abuse" and all its forms, so I'd change this to "sweeper"

    "by two stages" imo

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    for the record Steam sucks at everything ever and this was pretty much TrollFreak's check XDD <3 <3
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    agreeing, I am a blind bum.
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    Jelli, leave out the "the" when you implement this plz.
  8. Jellicent

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    o.O

    Mmk, went with all three of your advice (thanks, guys ^.^), and also made one sentence work a bit better than before, since it got a bit awkward between checks. This is done now!
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