Swalot (QC 3/3)(GP 2/2)

[Overview]

<p>Sporting a colorful movepool and solid defensive stats, Swalot is an excellent candidate for a mixed wall in the NU tier. Its Poison typing grants Swalot a useful set of resistances, in particular to Fighting- and Grass-type attacks, and also the ability to remove any Toxic Spikes that may plague your team. Its access to Encore also prevents Swalot from becoming setup fodder. Unfortunately for Swalot, beyond absorbing Toxic Spikes and annoying the opponent with Yawn and Encore, it is unlikely to achieve much throughout the match, and a lack of reliable recovery often prevents it sticking around for long. As a mono-Poison Pokemon, Swalot also faces competition from its rival purple sludge, Muk, who has better Special Defense and Attack as well as a better offensive movepool.</p>

[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Encore
move 2: Yawn / Toxic
move 3: Pain Split
move 4: Sludge Wave
item: Leftovers
ability: Liquid Ooze
nature: Bold
evs: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With this set, Swalot aims to switch in on a Pokemon it walls, such as Sawk, and then proceed to force switches with Yawn and Encore, turning opposing Pokemon into setup fodder for your team by either putting them to sleep or locking them into an ineffective move. Encore and Yawn also help stop the opponent from using Swalot as a chance to set up themselves, though Toxic is an option over Yawn as a means of dealing some damage in exchange for a limited ability to force switches. Pain Split is the closest thing to a recovery move that Swalot has access to, and whilst it can also aid in weakening the foe, it is somewhat unreliable. Sludge Wave rounds out the set by providing a reasonably reliable and effective STAB attack in the relatively Steel-starved environment of NU. For this set to be at all useful, entry hazards are a necessity. Otherwise, forcing switches will be largely wasted and Swalot doesn't exactly do a whole lot else.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The given EVs maximize Swalot's physical walling potential, turning it into a decent answer to Sawk and Pinsir, capable of laughing off their STAB attacks and even passably handling their Earthquakes. However, if walling these Pokemon is not a priority, an alternate spread of 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD is also viable to turn Swalot into a mixed wall; this does serve to diminish Swalot's advantages over Muk though, namely a higher Defense stat. Ice Beam is an option over Sludge Wave in order to hit Ground-type switch-ins such as Golem and Quagsire harder, but Sludge Wave is generally the superior option. Liquid Ooze is a surprisingly effective ability, preventing SubSeeding attempts and turning Swalot into a superb switch-in for Giga Drain or Drain Punch users such as Tangela or Gurdurr.</p>

<p>Swalot should always be paired with powerful sweepers who can take advantage of the free turns Yawn and Encore provide. Pinsir is a superb choice as it can take Ground-type attacks for Swalot and KO the Psychics that threaten Swalot with a powerful STAB Megahorn. Pinsir also has the ability to set up Stealth Rock or prepare for a sweep with Swords Dance. Gorebyss is also a great choice, making up for a comparative lack of defensive synergy with sheer power after a single free turn and the ability to remove from play any Ground-types that threaten Swalot. In addition to being a great counter to Swalot, Mesprit makes an excellent teammate, setting up Stealth Rock for Swalot and taking Ground- and Psychic-type attacks for it. As far as Spikes users go, it is hard to beat Cacturne as a partner as it is capable of KOing enemy Psychic-types with Sucker Punch, sponging Ground-type attacks, and even supplementing the chaos caused by Encore, whilst in return Swalot will greedily eat up all the Fighting-type attacks it lures in.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Swalot has a vast and entertaining movepool and is capable of pulling off many subpar alternatives. Curse and Stockpile are options to turn Swalot into a boosting wall, especially since Encore can help prevent phazing, but Swalot generally lacks the stats to pull these off effectively and the lack of reliable recovery really hurts their potential. A reasonable RestTalk set is possible if your team lacks a status absorber and has trouble with Toxic Spikes, but Swalot's low Speed and offensive stats as well as the lack of a real phazing move really let this set down. As for additional options for the main set, Body Slam can replace Sludge Wave in order to spread paralysis over damage output and Acid Spray is another possibility to encourage switching, but both are generally less reliable attacks. Swalot can also act as a decent weather inducer, setting up Sunny Day or Rain Dance while absorbing Toxic Spikes and then Exploding to quickly bring in a sweeper.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Thanks to the frustrating Yawn and Encore, it can be difficult to stop Swalot over multiple turns, so the best counters are pokemon that can switch in with little fear and threaten an immediate KO. Powerful Psychic-types such as Mesprit and Gardevoir will have no trouble exploiting Swalot's generally low Special Defense and can easily deal massive damage. Although it can be forced out with Yawn, Quagsire will have no trouble against Swalot that lack Toxic by chipping away at it with its STAB Earthquake and taking a pittance from Sludge Bomb. Since Yawn is the primary obstacle in countering Swalot, it comes as no surprise that Pokemon immune to sleep generally fare very well against it. Thanks to Vital Spirit, Vigoroth can come in with no fear of sleep and either Taunt Swalot and begin setting up or simply attack with Earthquake. Similarly, Hypno can scare off Swalot with Psychic and Magmortar can simply deal massive damage with its powerful Fire-type attacks.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Swalot receives Gluttony from the Dream World, allowing it to consume pinch Berries at half health. However, this is of limited use as Swalot almost always needs Leftovers for the constant healing, and it lacks the stats to pull off a berry-aided sweep.</p>
 

Ice-eyes

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What's the deal with the EVs? Those don't deliver an even close to efficient spread.

It actually looks surprisingly good to be honest.
 

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I assume the EVs are done like that to make Pain Split more reliable, but it's probably not worth the decrease in overall bulk.
 

breh

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there are no good steel-types in UU pretty much, so you can pretty safely run sludge wave. ice beam seems useless.

x-act tells me that 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD Calm is most efficient.

this mon has such a colorful movepool, lol. mention acid spray and body slam in OO?
 

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Just a small thing but all mentions of Roserade should be replaced with Roselia.
I also think that Toxic should be slashed somewhere as otherwise Swalot can barely do any damage especially if there are no hazards or sleep clause has already been activated
 
Moved Ice Beam to AC, slashed in Toxic over Yawn as running the two together is less effective and fixed up the Evs.

I've found RestTalk sets to be pretty disappointing and in my opinion the main reason to use him is Encore, but worth an OO?

Thanks everyone!
 

Ice-eyes

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Yeah, it's worth OO.

I wonder if Physically Defensive might not be a better bet. What does the extra Special Defense let you take on that you couldn't already? You want the ability to repeatedly switch into powerful Close Combats and such without recovery and tank +2 Frustrations from Leafeon, as well as being able to survive Earthquake from switchins and Pain Split off the damage. Thoughts?
 
I tried out max defense and I must say I was impressed (for Swalot, that is). It was pretty simple to toss it out in front of Sawk and laugh off CCs, though eq is a real bummer.

Changed the main set to physically defensive and moved mixed evs to AC.
Added RestTalk to OO.

Thanks Ice-eyes!
 

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[Overview]

<p>Sporting a colorful movepool and solid defensive stats, Swalot is an excellent candidate for a mixed wall in the NU tier. Its Poison-typing grants Swalot a useful set of resistances, in particular resistances to Fighting- and Grass-type attacks, and also the ability to hoover up any Toxic Spikes that may plague your team. Its access to Encore prevents Swalot from becoming setup fodder. Unfortunately for Swalot, beyond absorbing Toxic Spikes and annoying the opponent with Yawn and Encore, it is unlikely to achieve much throughout the match, and a lack of reliable recovery often prevents it sticking around for long. As a mono Poison-type, Swalot also faces competition from its rival purple sludge, Muk, who has better Special Defense and Attack as well as a better offensive movepool.</p>

[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Encore
move 2: Yawn / Toxic
move 3: Pain Split
move 4: Sludge Wave
item: Leftovers
ability: Liquid Ooze
nature: Bold
evs: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With this set, Swalot aims to switch in on a Pokemon it walls such as Sawk and then proceed to force switches with Yawn and Encore, turning opposing Pokemon into setup fodder for your team by either putting them to sleep or locking them into an ineffective move. Encore and Yawn also help to stop the opponent using Swalot as a chance to set up themselves, though Toxic is an option over Yawn as a means of dealing some damage in exchange for a limited ability to force switches. Pain Split is the closest thing to a recovery move that Swalot has access to, and whilst it can also aid in weakening the foe, it is somewhat unreliable. Sludge Wave rounds out the set by providing a reasonably reliable and effective STAB attack in the relatively Steel starved environment of NU. For this set to be at all useful, entry hazards are a necessity, otherwise forcing switches will be largely wasted, and Swalot doesn't exactly do a whole lot else.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The given EVs maximize Swalot's physical walling potential, turning it into a decent answer to Sawk and Pinsir, capable of laughing off their STAB attacks, and even passably handling their Earthquakes. However, if walling these Pokemon is not a priority, an alternate spread of 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD is also viable to turn Swalot into a mixed wall; this does serve to diminish Swalot's advantages over Muk though, namely higher Defense. Ice Beam is an option over Sludge Wave in order to hit Ground-type switchins, such as Golem and Quagsire, harder, but Sludge Wave is generally the superior option. Liquid Ooze is a surprisingly effective ability, preventing SubSeeding attempts and turning Swalot into a superb switching for Giga Drain or Drain Punch users such as Tangela or Gurdurr.</p>

<p>Swalot should always be paired with powerful sweepers who can take advantage of the free turns Yawn and Encore provide. Pinsir is a superb choice as it can take Ground-type attacks for Swalot and KO the Psychics that threaten Swalot with a powerful STAB Megahorn and set up with Swords Dance or even Stealth Rock when given an opportunity. Gorebyss is also a great choice, making up for a comparative lack of defensive synergy with sheer power after a single free turn and the ability to remove from play all the Ground-types that threaten Swalot. from play. In addition to being a great Swalot counter,Mesprit makes an excellent teammate, setting up Stealth Rock for Swalot and taking Ground- and Psychic-type attacks for it. As far as Spikes users go, it is hard to have a better partner than Cacturne as it is capable of KOing enemy Psychics with Sucker Punch, sponging Ground-type attacks and even supplementing the Encore abusing chaos, whilst in return Swalot will greedily eat up all the Fighting-type attacks it lures in.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Swalot has a vast and entertaining movepool and is capable of pulling off many subpar alternatives. Curse and Stockpile are options to turn Swalot into a boosting wall, especially since Encore can help prevent phazing, but Swalot generally lacks the stats to pull these off effectively and the lack of reliable recovery really hurts their potential. A reasonable RestTalk set is possible if your team lacks a status absorber and has trouble with Toxic Spikes, but Swalot's low Speed and offensive stats, as well as the lack of a real phazing move, really let this set down. As for additional options for the main set, Body Slam can replace Sludge Wave in order to spread paralysis over damage output and Acid Spray is another possibility to encourage switching, but it is generally a less reliable attack. Swalot can also act as a decent weather inducer, setting up Sunny Day or Rain Dance while absorbing Toxic Spikes and then Exploding to quickly bring in a sweeper.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Thanks to the frustrating Yawn and Encore, it can be difficult to stop Swalot over multiple turns, so the best counters are pokemon that can switch in with little fear and threaten an immediate KO. Powerful Psychic-types such as Mesprit and Gardevoir will have no trouble exploiting Swalot's generally lower Special Defense and can easily deal massive damage. Although it can be forced out with Yawn, if something has already been put to sleep, Quagsire will have no trouble with Toxic-lacking Swalot by chipping away at it with its STAB Earthquake and taking a pittance from Sludge Bomb. Since Yawn is the primary obstacle in countering Swalot, it comes as no surprise that Pokemon immune to sleep generally fare very well against it. Thanks to Vital Spirit, Vigoroth can come in with no fear of Sleep and either Taunt Swalot and begin setting up, or simply attack with Earthquake. Similarly, Hypno can scare off Swalot with Psychic and Magmortar can simply deal massive damage with its powerful Fire-type attacks.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Swalot receives Gluttony from the Dream World, allowing it to consume pinch Berries at half health; however this is of limited use as Swalot almost always needs Leftovers for the constant healing, and lacks the stats to pull off a berry-aided sweep.</p>



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[Overview]

<p>Sporting a colorful movepool and solid defensive stats, Swalot is an excellent candidate for a mixed wall in the NU tier. Its Poison-typing grants Swalot a useful set of resistances, in particular to Fighting- and Grass-type attacks, and also the ability to hoover up (remove) any Toxic Spikes that may plague your team. Its access to Encore (also) prevents Swalot from becoming setup fodder. Unfortunately for Swalot, beyond absorbing Toxic Spikes and annoying the opponent with Yawn and Encore, it is unlikely to achieve much throughout the match, and a lack of reliable recovery often prevents it sticking around for long. As a mono Poison-type (mono-Poison Pokemon), Swalot also faces competition from its rival purple sludge, Muk, who has better Special Defense and Attack as well as a better offensive movepool.</p>

[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Encore
move 2: Yawn / Toxic
move 3: Pain Split
move 4: Sludge Wave
item: Leftovers
ability: Liquid Ooze
nature: Bold
evs: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With this set, Swalot aims to switch in on a Pokemon it walls (comma) such as Sawk (comma) and then proceed to force switches with Yawn and Encore, turning opposing Pokemon into setup fodder for your team by either putting them to sleep or locking them into an ineffective move. Encore and Yawn also help stop the opponent (from) using Swalot as a chance to set up themselves, though Toxic is an option over Yawn as a means of dealing some damage in exchange for a limited ability to force switches. Pain Split is the closest thing to a recovery move that Swalot has access to, and whilst it can also aid in weakening the foe, it is somewhat unreliable. Sludge Wave rounds out the set by providing a reasonably reliable and effective STAB attack in the relatively Steel(hyphen)starved environment of NU. For this set to be at all useful (comma) entry hazards are a necessity, (period) o(O)therwise (comma) forcing switches will be largely wasted, and Swalot doesn't exactly do a whole lot else.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The given EVs maximize Swalot's physical walling potential, turning it into a decent answer to Sawk and Pinsir, capable of laughing off their STAB attacks and even passably handling their Earthquakes. However, if walling these Pokemon is not a priority, an alternate spread of 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD is also viable to turn Swalot into a mixed wall; this does serve to diminish Swalot's advantages over Muk though, namely (a) higher Defense (stat). Ice Beam is an option over Sludge Wave in order to hit Ground-type switch(hyphen)ins such as Golem and Quagsire harder, but Sludge Wave is generally the superior option. Liquid Ooze is a surprisingly effective ability, preventing SubSeeding attempts and turning Swalot into a superb switch(hyphen)ing for Giga Drain or Drain Punch users such as Tangela or Gurdurr.</p>

<p>Swalot should always be paired with powerful sweepers who can take advantage of the free turns Yawn and Encore provide. Pinsir is a superb choice as it can take Ground-type attacks for Swalot and KO the Psychics that threaten Swalot with a powerful STAB Megahorn and set up with Swords Dance or even Stealth Rock when given an opportunity. (Pinsir also has the ability to set up Stealth Rock or prepare for a sweep with Swords Dance.) Gorebyss is also a great choice, making up for a comparative lack of defensive synergy with sheer power after a single free turn and the ability to remove from play all the (any) Ground-types that threaten Swalot. In addition to being a great counter to Swalot, Mesprit makes an excellent teammate, setting up Stealth Rock for Swalot and taking Ground- and Psychic-type attacks for it. As far as Spikes users go, it is hard to beat Cacturne as a partner, (as it is) capable of KOing enemy Psychics(-types) with Sucker Punch, sponging Ground-type attacks (comma) and even supplementing the Encore abusing chaos (chaos caused by Encore), whilst in return Swalot will greedily eat up all the Fighting-type attacks it lures in.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Swalot has a vast and entertaining movepool and is capable of pulling off many subpar alternatives. Curse and Stockpile are options to turn Swalot into a boosting wall, especially since Encore can help prevent phazing, but Swalot generally lacks the stats to pull these off effectively and the lack of reliable recovery really hurts their potential. A reasonable RestTalk set is possible if your team lacks a status absorber and has trouble with Toxic Spikes, but Swalot's low Speed and offensive stats as well as the lack of a real phazing move really let this set down. As for additional options for the main set, Body Slam can replace Sludge Wave in order to spread paralysis over damage output and Acid Spray is another possibility to encourage switching, but it is (both are) generally a less reliable attack(s). Swalot can also act as a decent weather inducer, setting up Sunny Day or Rain Dance while absorbing Toxic Spikes and then Exploding to quickly bring in a sweeper.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Thanks to the frustrating Yawn and Encore, it can be difficult to stop Swalot over multiple turns, so the best counters are pokemon that can switch in with little fear and threaten an immediate KO. Powerful Psychic-types such as Mesprit and Gardevoir will have no trouble exploiting Swalot's generally lower Special Defense and can easily deal massive damage. Although it can be forced out with Yawn, if something has already been put to sleep, Quagsire will have no trouble with Toxic-lacking (against) Swalot (that lack Toxic) by chipping away at it with its STAB Earthquake and taking a pittance from Sludge Bomb. Since Yawn is the primary obstacle in countering Swalot, it comes as no surprise that Pokemon immune to sleep generally fare very well against it. Thanks to Vital Spirit, Vigoroth can come in with no fear of S(s)leep and either Taunt Swalot and begin setting up or simply attack with Earthquake. Similarly, Hypno can scare off Swalot with Psychic and Magmortar can simply deal massive damage with its powerful Fire-type attacks.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Swalot receives Gluttony from the Dream World, allowing it to consume pinch Berries at half health, (period) h(H)owever (comma) this is of limited use as Swalot almost always needs Leftovers for the constant healing, and (it) lacks the stats to pull off a berry-aided sweep.</p>


[Overview]

<p>Sporting a colorful movepool and solid defensive stats, Swalot is an excellent candidate for a mixed wall in the NU tier. Its Poison typing grants Swalot a useful set of resistances, in particular to Fighting- and Grass-type attacks, and also the ability to remove any Toxic Spikes that may plague your team. Its access to Encore also prevents Swalot from becoming setup fodder. Unfortunately for Swalot, beyond absorbing Toxic Spikes and annoying the opponent with Yawn and Encore, it is unlikely to achieve much throughout the match, and a lack of reliable recovery often prevents it sticking around for long. As a mono-Poison Pokemon, Swalot also faces competition from its rival purple sludge, Muk, who has better Special Defense and Attack as well as a better offensive movepool.</p>

[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Encore
move 2: Yawn / Toxic
move 3: Pain Split
move 4: Sludge Wave
item: Leftovers
ability: Liquid Ooze
nature: Bold
evs: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With this set, Swalot aims to switch in on a Pokemon it walls, such as Sawk, and then proceed to force switches with Yawn and Encore, turning opposing Pokemon into setup fodder for your team by either putting them to sleep or locking them into an ineffective move. Encore and Yawn also help stop the opponent from using Swalot as a chance to set up themselves, though Toxic is an option over Yawn as a means of dealing some damage in exchange for a limited ability to force switches. Pain Split is the closest thing to a recovery move that Swalot has access to, and whilst it can also aid in weakening the foe, it is somewhat unreliable. Sludge Wave rounds out the set by providing a reasonably reliable and effective STAB attack in the relatively Steel-starved environment of NU. For this set to be at all useful, entry hazards are a necessity. Otherwise, forcing switches will be largely wasted and Swalot doesn't exactly do a whole lot else.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The given EVs maximize Swalot's physical walling potential, turning it into a decent answer to Sawk and Pinsir, capable of laughing off their STAB attacks and even passably handling their Earthquakes. However, if walling these Pokemon is not a priority, an alternate spread of 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD is also viable to turn Swalot into a mixed wall; this does serve to diminish Swalot's advantages over Muk though, namely a higher Defense stat. Ice Beam is an option over Sludge Wave in order to hit Ground-type switch-ins such as Golem and Quagsire harder, but Sludge Wave is generally the superior option. Liquid Ooze is a surprisingly effective ability, preventing SubSeeding attempts and turning Swalot into a superb switch-in for Giga Drain or Drain Punch users such as Tangela or Gurdurr.</p>

<p>Swalot should always be paired with powerful sweepers who can take advantage of the free turns Yawn and Encore provide. Pinsir is a superb choice as it can take Ground-type attacks for Swalot and KO the Psychics that threaten Swalot with a powerful STAB Megahorn. Pinsir also has the ability to set up Stealth Rock or prepare for a sweep with Swords Dance. Gorebyss is also a great choice, making up for a comparative lack of defensive synergy with sheer power after a single free turn and the ability to remove from play any Ground-types that threaten Swalot. In addition to being a great counter to Swalot, Mesprit makes an excellent teammate, setting up Stealth Rock for Swalot and taking Ground- and Psychic-type attacks for it. As far as Spikes users go, it is hard to beat Cacturne as a partner as it is capable of KOing enemy Psychic-types with Sucker Punch, sponging Ground-type attacks, and even supplementing the chaos caused by Encore, whilst in return Swalot will greedily eat up all the Fighting-type attacks it lures in.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Swalot has a vast and entertaining movepool and is capable of pulling off many subpar alternatives. Curse and Stockpile are options to turn Swalot into a boosting wall, especially since Encore can help prevent phazing, but Swalot generally lacks the stats to pull these off effectively and the lack of reliable recovery really hurts their potential. A reasonable RestTalk set is possible if your team lacks a status absorber and has trouble with Toxic Spikes, but Swalot's low Speed and offensive stats as well as the lack of a real phazing move really let this set down. As for additional options for the main set, Body Slam can replace Sludge Wave in order to spread paralysis over damage output and Acid Spray is another possibility to encourage switching, but both are generally less reliable attacks. Swalot can also act as a decent weather inducer, setting up Sunny Day or Rain Dance while absorbing Toxic Spikes and then Exploding to quickly bring in a sweeper.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Thanks to the frustrating Yawn and Encore, it can be difficult to stop Swalot over multiple turns, so the best counters are pokemon that can switch in with little fear and threaten an immediate KO. Powerful Psychic-types such as Mesprit and Gardevoir will have no trouble exploiting Swalot's generally low Special Defense and can easily deal massive damage. Although it can be forced out with Yawn, Quagsire will have no trouble against Swalot that lack Toxic by chipping away at it with its STAB Earthquake and taking a pittance from Sludge Bomb. Since Yawn is the primary obstacle in countering Swalot, it comes as no surprise that Pokemon immune to sleep generally fare very well against it. Thanks to Vital Spirit, Vigoroth can come in with no fear of sleep and either Taunt Swalot and begin setting up or simply attack with Earthquake. Similarly, Hypno can scare off Swalot with Psychic and Magmortar can simply deal massive damage with its powerful Fire-type attacks.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Swalot receives Gluttony from the Dream World, allowing it to consume pinch Berries at half health. However, this is of limited use as Swalot almost always needs Leftovers for the constant healing, and it lacks the stats to pull off a berry-aided sweep.</p>



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