SylveMons (Submission Phase)

Oops, did my move threaten to break Tapu Koko? Should Fairy Charge be given to Tapu Bulu or would that be too much for it too?

EDIT: And just for the record, I actually had Tapu Bulu in mind first when I thought of Fairy Charge since it can't even use Dazzling Gleam well.
 
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Oops, did my move threaten to break Tapu Koko? Should Fairy Charge be given to Tapu Bulu or would that be too much for it too?
protip: never make a good electric or fairy move, or else either ludi, revi, or both will try to break koko with it

bulu sounds fine imo. it already has one good physical stab, and it's lower than koko on viability ranks, and it isn't broken in stabmons, so it won't break it. grass and fairy share a lot of resists anyway
 
Air Stream: Maybe Thunderus, Salamence and Swellow


Rinse Off : Ludicolo and Wailord. Maybe some Dry Skin users.


Air Current: Agreed. Anything that gets Air Stream should get this too.


Guard Up: The list seems fine to me.

Acid Melt: Muk (both varients), Swalot, Victreebel, Goodra, Salandit-line, Draglage, maybe Heatmor and Snorlax.


Swampland: I agree that the grass an water elemental monkeys should be added. Others that might also work are Toxicroak, Muk and Trevenant.


Fairy Charge: For non-fairies, maybe Lopunny, Togedamaru, Miltank, eeveelutions


Jetsream: Talonflame, Swellow and Rayquaza especially should get it. Maybe not Whimsicott, Volcarona or Mewtwo.
 
Dunno why but I don't think Rinse Off should be weak in the sun. I imagine in immense heat, getting a refreshing water splash would feel amazing.

Hear me out:
No Weather: 50%
In Rain: 66%
In Sun: 66%, strips water type or fire (if it has) for turn and becomes normal akin to roost.
In Sand: 33%, changes water type to rock or ground with 50% chance of each
In Hail: 25%, freezes user. Ice types using this get 66% healing.

This would be a bit extreme, but Hail would be a way to discourage extreme bulky water spam. Plus it gives Hail a niche.

Of course, this is likely too extreme, but it could mean Sun teams could benefit from defensive water types being present.
 
Dunno why but I don't think Rinse Off should be weak in the sun. I imagine in immense heat, getting a refreshing water splash would feel amazing.

Hear me out:
No Weather: 50%
In Rain: 66%
In Sun: 66%, strips water type or fire (if it has) for turn and becomes normal akin to roost.
In Sand: 33%, changes water type to rock or ground with 50% chance of each
In Hail: 25%, freezes user. Ice types using this get 66% healing.

This would be a bit extreme, but Hail would be a way to discourage extreme bulky water spam. Plus it gives Hail a niche.

Of course, this is likely too extreme, but it could mean Sun teams could benefit from defensive water types being present.
I think Rinse Off is an opposite of Morning Sun/Moonlight.
 
If it hasn’t been said yet, I think Volcanion should get Rinse Off too. Just makes sense. I also agree that it should be an effecive opposite of Morning Sun/Moonlight, being better in the rain but worse in other weathers.
Morning Synthlight (as I'm now calling it) is a poor recovery option, though. The tradeoff for Rinse Off should be for only one weather, and it should have the same PP as Recover, so it doesn't fall into the same trap as Morning Synthlight.
 
Morning Synthlight (as I'm now calling it) is a poor recovery option, though. The tradeoff for Rinse Off should be for only one weather, and it should have the same PP as Recover, so it doesn't fall into the same trap as Morning Synthlight.
So you mean like a rain Shore Up? Or am I misunderstanding what its tradeoff should be?
 
Phanpy line with Rinse Off could make sense. You see elephants shower with their trunk. Also could work for other pokemon associated with cleanliness, or just Pokemon that would be hilarious to see washing with a bar of soap like Makuhita, or... something with gorgeous hair?
*jynx intensifies*
 
Phanpy line with Rinse Off could make sense. You see elephants shower with their trunk. Also could work for other pokemon associated with cleanliness, or just Pokemon that would be hilarious to see washing with a bar of soap like Makuhita, or... something with gorgeous hair?
Mamoswine as it's a mammoth.

Also, based on that, Milotic (based on beauty), Furfrou (fabulous fur coat that's styled), Mareep-line (first fluffy, then fabulous), Luvdisc (heart scales), Suicune (purifies water), Ho-oh (created Suicune, regenerated them after the rain, regenerates itself, associated with rainbows), Pyukumuku (Purify and ultra-passive pure water type), Alolan Dugtrio (abulous hair), Goodra (Hydration and evolves when raining), Shaymin and Celebi (both purify forests).
 
Mamoswine as it's a mammoth.

Also, based on that, Milotic (based on beauty), Furfrou (fabulous fur coat that's styled), Mareep-line (first fluffy, then fabulous), Luvdisc (heart scales), Suicune (purifies water), Ho-oh (created Suicune, regenerated them after the rain, regenerates itself, associated with rainbows), Pyukumuku (Purify and ultra-passive pure water type), Alolan Dugtrio (abulous hair), Goodra (Hydration and evolves when raining), Shaymin and Celebi (both purify forests).
ho-oh is a fire type
fire types as a rule should not get rinse off except Volcanion
 
ho-oh is a fire type
fire types as a rule should not get rinse off except Volcanion
I know it's a fire type. Emboar gets Sal. But fair enough. It's a good point. I did think someone might say that. Just thought I'd point out the possibility based on the logic presented.
 
Suicune would be quite boosted by a healing move that lets it stay awake. Rain team Furfrou might become a thing.

As for Acid Melt, I'm thinking add Kingdra to the mix.

Acid Melt does wonders, especially for the grass/poisons who get it. No longer relying on weatherball, Victrebell has perfect coverage using HP Ground except for Zubat, and levitating poisons, and Drifloom. HP Rock also works and smacks flying types hard and only is resisted by Croagunk.

Salazzle only needs it to hit Heatran, though I guess steel types with a fire resistant typing spell trouble. I can only think of Dialga and Empoleon.

Said Empoleon getting Rinse Off will make people shush about its lack of Roost.
 
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Acid Melt IMHO:

Yes: Zubat, Bellsprout, Grimer (both), Koffing, Tentacool, Seedra, Gulpin, Seviper, Roselia, Groagunk, Sligoo, Trubbish, Foongus, Sandalit, Skrelp, Nihilego
Maybe: Bulbasaur, Oddish, Venonat, Treecko Dustox, Drampa, Heidreigon
NO!: Gastly, Poipole
 
Acid Melt IMHO:

Yes: Zubat, Bellsprout, Grimer (both), Koffing, Tentacool, Seedra, Gulpin, Seviper, Roselia, Groagunk, Sligoo, Trubbish, Foongus, Sandalit, Skrelp, Nihilego
Maybe: Bulbasaur, Oddish, Venonat, Treecko Dustox, Drampa, Heidreigon
NO!: Gastly, Poipole
I don't think Drampa looks like the acid-spitting type. It doesn't get a single Poison-type attack (besides Toxic). The Treeko line is in the same situation. But I agree with everything else, and I think Octillery, Cradily line, and maybe Seismitoad should get Acid Melt too.
 
I don't think Drampa looks like the acid-spitting type. It doesn't get a single Poison-type attack (besides Toxic). The Treeko line is in the same situation. But I agree with everything else, and I think Octillery, Cradily line, and maybe Seismitoad should get Acid Melt too.
If Octillery should get it, I guess Blastoise and Clawitzer should get it too.