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Team Tournament - FINALS: Pwnemon vs. Objection

Discussion in 'Tournament Arena' started by Elevator Music, Jan 8, 2013.

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  1. Pwnemon

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    "That Charizard needs to learn to play nice before it can get near my Pyroak!"

    Oak out, Soil in

    "Put him in time-out!"
  2. Objection

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    When the only benched pokemon I have left is a 9 energy Hydreigon that the pesky Sableye can taunt to force an EN KO, do you really expect me to counterswitch?
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    "Phwnemon: Soil: fake out Hari ~ fake out Zard ~ chill
    IF your target uses protective then use chill that action and attack that target with fake out a3
    IF hariyama uses damaging fighting type move in a combo a3 and is not being faked out by either you or sableye then use dig (hold)

    Phwnemon: Sableye: Fake Out Zard ~ Fake Out Hari ~ Chill
    IF your target uses Protective and you would be using Chill a3 then chill that action and fake out that target a3
    IF Hariyama uses Fake Out Soil when Soil is not using Fake Out and you are using Fake Out Hariyama then chill and use Fake Out Hariyama 2 actions later."

    With the JAS SEAL OF APPROVAL to boot
  4. Objection

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    Charizard: Give Finger (Sableye) - Give Finger (Colossoil) - Reflect

    Hariyama: Give Finger (Colossoil) - Give Finger (Sableye) - Whirlwind (Sableye)

    Action 1 and action 2 have the Dogfish44 Seal of Approval to boot.
  5. Elevator Music

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    Round 5:

    Pwnemon:
    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Pyroak (M)
    HP: 84
    En: 54
    Rank: 3/4/4/2
    Speed: 60
    SC/WC: 4/5
    Stats: N/A
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Colossoil (M) | Sableye (M)
    HP: 91 | 79
    En: 42 | 23
    Rank: 5/3/2/3 | 4/3/3/3
    Speed: 110 | 43
    SC/WC: 5/10 | 1/2
    Stats: +14% Acc | -10% Eva, -1 Atk
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A

    Objection:
    - Stealth Rock

    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Hydreigon (F)
    HP: 68
    En: 9
    Rank: 4/2/5/3
    Speed: 113
    SC/WC: 4/5
    Stats: +15% Acc
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Charizard (M) | Hariyama (M)
    HP: 82 | 56
    En: 58 | 42
    Rank: 4/2/4/3 | 5/2/1/3
    Speed: 100 | 50
    SC/WC: 3/4 | 4/6
    Stats: N/A | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A​
    Arena: Gravity (3r)​

    Objection replaces the fallen Tomohawk with Charizard, who is again smashed by the Stealth Rock put up earlier. Those things have done quite a bit of damage to Charizard! The presence of Charizard causes Pwnemon to recall his Pyroak and send back out Colossoil, as it is a much better matchup for him.

    Before Objection's Pokemon can react, Colossoil sends a shockwave using Fake Out towards Hariyama, while Sableye sends a Fake Out to Charizard, causing both of Objection's Pokemon to flinch.

    And whoa, they do it again! Colossoil this time uses Fake Out on Charizard, while Sableye uses Fake Out on Hariyama, and both Pokemon flinch AGAIN. That's pretty cheap... but effective, because they've taken away most of the advantage Objection gets by going second, even if they didn't inflict all that much damage.

    Colossoil just decides to chill out, while Charizard sets up a Reflect. Sableye also chills, and then Hariyama sends a Whirlwind at Colossoil, blowing it back into its Pokeball! This forces Pyroak to come back out and face down Charizard...

    Calculations (open)
    Pre-round:
    -18 HP due to Stealth Rock (Charizard)

    Action 1:
    Colossoil used Fake Out!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 3023/10000 (No)
    (4+(7.5-3)) = 8.5 damage (Hariyama)
    -4 energy
    Sableye used Fake Out!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 6605/10000 (No)
    (4+(6-3)) = 7 damage (Charizard)
    -4 energy
    Charizard flinched!
    Hariyama flinched!

    Action 2:
    Colossoil used Fake Out!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 764/10000 (No)
    (4+(7.5-3)) = 8.5 damage (Charizard)
    -8 energy
    Sableye used Fake Out!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 5523/10000 (No)
    (4+(6-3)) = 7 damage (Hariyama)
    -8 energy
    Charizard flinched!
    Hariyama flinched!

    Action 3:
    Colossoil chilled!
    +12 energy
    Charizard used Reflect!
    Other Change: Reflect (Objection)
    -10 energy
    Sableye chilled!
    +12 energy
    Hariyama used Whirlwind!
    -7 energy

    Post-round:
    RNG Roll (Roar) [1 (Pyroak)]: 1 (Pyroak)


    Pwnemon:
    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Sableye (M)
    HP: 79
    En: 23
    Ranks: 4/3/3/3
    Speed: 43
    SC/WC: 1/2
    Stats: -10% Eva
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Colossoil (M) | Pyroak (M)
    HP: 91 | 84
    En: 42 | 54
    Rank: 5/3/2/3 | 3/4/4/2
    Speed: 110 | 60
    SC/WC: 5/10 | 4/5
    Stats: +14% Acc | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A

    Objection:
    - Stealth Rock
    - Reflect (5a)

    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Hydreigon (F)
    HP: 68
    En: 9
    Rank: 4/2/5/3
    Speed: 113
    SC/WC: 4/5
    Stats: +15% Acc
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Charizard (M) | Hariyama (M)
    HP: 48 | 40
    En: 48 | 35
    Rank: 4/2/4/3 | 5/2/1/3
    Speed: 100 | 50
    SC/WC: 3/4 | 4/6
    Stats: N/A | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A​
    Arena: Gravity (2r)​
  6. Objection

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    Fucketh this shit.

    Charizard: Air Slash (Pyroak) - Brick Break (Colossoil) - Air Slash (Pyroak)
    If Colossoil uses a damaging evasive move on the turn you are using Brick Break, change that action to Dig (Pyroak)
    If Colossoil uses a speed-lowering move on you, change that action to Flame Charge (Colossoil) and push actions back.

    Hariyama: Fake Out (Colossoil) - Fake Out (Pyroak) - Chill
    If Colossoil uses Encore on you on an action you are not using Fake Out on him, change that action to Combo: Bullet Punch + Ice Punch (Colossoil) and the following action to Cooldown and push actions back.If your target uses a protective/evasive move and did not use one on the previous action, change that action to Chill and push actions back.
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    Guess i'll have to gamble on a 70% chance... well, either way, hariyama falls.

    Pyroak: Solarbeam+Solarbeam Hariyama ~ Cooldown (Solarbeam+Solarbeam Hariyama) ~ Roar Charizard
    ; IF you flinch a1 then use Solarbeam+Solarbeam Hariyama a2

    Colossoil: Fake Out Hariyama ~ Rock Slide ~ Rock Slide
    ; IF Pyroak flinches a1 then use encore hari a2

    (of note: Fake Out still does damage after the first use, just no flinch)
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    Round 6:

    Pwnemon:
    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Sableye (M)
    HP: 79
    En: 23
    Ranks: 4/3/3/3
    Speed: 43
    SC/WC: 1/2
    Stats: -10% Eva
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Colossoil (M) | Pyroak (M)
    HP: 91 | 84
    En: 42 | 54
    Rank: 5/3/2/3 | 3/4/4/2
    Speed: 110 | 60
    SC/WC: 5/10 | 4/5
    Stats: +14% Acc | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A

    Objection:
    - Stealth Rock
    - Reflect (5a)

    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Hydreigon (F)
    HP: 68
    En: 9
    Rank: 4/2/5/3
    Speed: 113
    SC/WC: 4/5
    Stats: +15% Acc
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Charizard (M) | Hariyama (M)
    HP: 48 | 40
    En: 48 | 35
    Rank: 4/2/4/3 | 5/2/1/3
    Speed: 100 | 50
    SC/WC: 3/4 | 4/6
    Stats: N/A | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A​
    Arena: Gravity (2r)​

    After that last round of BS, things seem to be winding down a bit. Colossoil predicts Hariyama's move, and uses Fake Out on it before Hariyama can flinch it with its own Fake Out. Good move, as even though Colossoil's Fake Out didn't flinch, and was weakened by the Reflect put up last round, it at least did damage. Pyroak looks like its using another charge up attack, because it's taking in sunlight from the arena. Charizard attempts to stop it with an Air Slash, but it doesn't manage to faint Pyroak, or even make it flinch. Pyroak then unleashes its attack, and it's a massive SolarBeam+SolarBeam! The attack connects with Hariyama, who is barely standing it seems.

    As a last ditch move, Hariyama shoots a second Fake Out at Pyroak, who is cooling down from its last attack. Colossoil then summons up a Rock Slide, which does decent damage to Charizard, though the Reflect weakens the hit by a lot, and also manages to KO Hariyama. In retaliation, Charizard smashes into Colossoil with what looks like a Brick Break, dealing super effective damage. Colossoil is still standing strong though.

    In fact, it just shrugs off the hit and performs another Rock Slide! With only one target, the attack is more powerful than before, though Charizard is still hanging in there. Charizard shoots another Air Slash at Pyroak, which hits Pyroak square, but it just opens its mouth and uses Roar on Charizard like it did previously! That's really not good for Objection, because Charizard will retreat to its Pokeball at the end of the round, and then have to come back in again and take Stealth Rock!

    Yeah, Hydreigon is sent out from the Roar, and is hit by the entry hazard. In a sec, the same thing will happen to Charizard, and I don't think it has enough health left to take another blow... This looks seriously bad for Objection. With a severely tired Hydreigon as his only Pokemon left to face down three of Pwnemon's, this match is basically over.

    Calculations (open)
    Action 1:
    Colossoil used Fake Out!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 1360/10000 (No)
    (2.666+(7.5-3)) = 7.166 damage (Hariyama)
    -4 energy
    Hariyama used Fake Out!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 4166/10000 (No)
    (4+(7.5-4.5)) = 7 damage (Colossoil)
    -6 energy
    Pyroak absorbed light!
    Charizard used Air Slash!
    (8+3+(6-3))*1.5 = 21 damage (Pyroak)
    RNG Roll (Effect) [<=3000 Effect]: 9963/10000 (No)
    -5 energy
    Pyroak used SolarBeam+SolarBeam!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 6073/10000 (No)
    (27+3+(6-4.5)) = 31.5 damage (Hariyama)
    -34 energy

    Action 2:
    Hariyama used Fake Out!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 7040/10000 (No)
    (4+(7.5-6)) = 5.5 damage (Pyroak)
    -4 energy
    Colossoil used Rock Slide!
    RNG Roll (Crit (Charizard)) [<=625 Crit]: 4454/10000 (No)
    RNG Roll (Crit (Hariyama)) [<=625 Crit]: 6666/10000 (No)
    (4+(7.5-3))*2.25 = 19.125 damage (Charizard)
    (4+(7.5-3))/1.5 = 5.666 damage (Hariyama)
    Hariyama fainted!
    RNG Roll (Effect (Charizard) [<=3000 Effect]: 5710/10000 (No)
    -6 energy
    Charizard used Brick Break!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 1954/10000 (No)
    (8+(6-4.5))*1.5 = 14.25 damage (Colossoil)
    -8 energy

    Action 3:
    Colossoil used Rock Slide!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 4361/10000 (No)
    (5.333+(7.5-3))*2.25 = 21.12425 damage (Charizard)
    RNG Roll (Effect) [<=3000 Effect]: 9452/10000 (No)
    -10 energy
    Charizard used Air Slash!
    (8+3+(6-3))*1.5 = 21 damage (Pyroak)
    RNG Roll (Effect) [<=3000 Effect]: 6315/10000 (No)
    -5 energy
    Pyroak used Roar!
    -7 energy

    Post-round:
    RNG Roll (Roar) [1 (Hydreigon)]: 1 (Hydreigon)
    -12 HP due to Stealth Rock (Hydreigon)


    Pwnemon:
    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Sableye (M)
    HP: 79
    En: 23
    Ranks: 4/3/3/3
    Speed: 43
    SC/WC: 1/2
    Stats: -10% Eva
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Colossoil (M) | Pyroak (M)
    HP: 70 | 36
    En: 22 | 13
    Rank: 5/2/1/3 | 3/4/4/2
    Speed: 110 | 60
    SC/WC: 5/10 | 4/5
    Stats: +14% Acc | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A

    Objection:
    - Stealth Rock
    - Reflect (2a)

    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Charizard (M)
    HP: 8
    En: 30
    Rank: 4/2/4/3
    Speed: 100
    SC/WC: 3/4
    Stats: N/A
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Hydreigon (F) | Hariyama (M)
    HP: 56 | KO
    En: 9 | KO
    Rank: 4/2/5/3 | 5/2/1/3
    Speed: 113 | 50
    SC/WC: 4/5 | 4/6
    Stats: +15% Acc | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A​
    Arena: Gravity (1r)​
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    Charizard is forced to switch back in, and is KOed, so I will order right now.

    Switching out Pyroak. Switching in Sableye. Cruel Britannia cannot counterswitch.

    Sableye: Taunt Hydreigon ~ Chill ~ Protect
    ; IF Hydreigon uses Dodge a1 then chill and pushback
    ; IF sableye used taunt and hydreigon is not taunted, use Taunt Hydreigon

    Colossoil: Fake Out Hydreigon ~ Chill ~ Protect
    ; IF Hydreigon uses Dodge a1 then chill ~ protect ~ chill
    ; IF sableye used taunt and hydreigon is not taunted, use Taunt Hydreigon
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    Chill - Combo: Bite + Crunch (Sableye) - Chill

    I would say gg, but y'know ...
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    Round 7:

    Pwnemon:
    Bench (open)
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    Pyroak (M)
    HP: 36
    En: 13
    Rank: 3/4/4/2
    Speed: 60
    SC/WC: 4/5
    Stats: N/A
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Colossoil (M) | Sableye (M)
    HP: 70 | 79
    En: 22 | 23
    Rank: 5/2/1/3 | 4/3/3/3
    Speed: 110 | 43
    SC/WC: 5/10 | 1/2
    Stats: +14% Acc | -10% Eva
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A

    Objection:
    - Stealth Rock
    - Reflect (2a)

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Hydreigon (F) | Charizard (M)
    HP: 56 | 8
    En: 9 | 30
    Rank: 4/2/5/3 | 4/2/4/3
    Speed: 113 | 100
    SC/WC: 4/5 | 3/4
    Stats: +15% Acc | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A​
    Arena: Gravity (1r)​

    Here we go, this looks like it'll be the conclusion of this match! Objection is forced to send Charizard back in, and it's promptly KOed by the Stealth Rock trap Pwnemon put up! Meanwhile, Pwnemon recalls Pyroak for Sableye, who can easily put Hydreigon in a checkmate position.

    Colossoil quickly uses Fake Out on Hydreigon, giving Sableye the opportunity to Taunt it, sealing its fate. Hydreigon flinches, but it's forced to attack after this, and it'll definitely deplete the little energy it has left before the Taunt wears off.

    Both Colossoil and Sableye just Chill out, knowing the battle is over. Hydreigon throws itself at Sableye with a Bite+Crunch combination that I would swear it didn't have the energy to use, and promptly faints. Pwnemon is victorious!

    Calculations (open)
    Pre-round:
    -18 HP due to Stealth Rock (Charizard)
    Charizard fainted!

    Action 1:
    Colossoil used Fake Out!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 6832/10000 (No)
    (2.666+(7.5-3)) = 7.166 damage (Hydreigon)
    -4 energy
    Sableye used Taunt!
    Other Change: Taunt (Hydreigon)
    -9 energy
    Hydreigon flinched!

    Action 2:
    Colossoil chilled!
    +12 energy
    Sableye chilled!
    +12 energy
    Hydreigon used Bite+Crunch!
    RNG Roll (Crit) [<=625 Crit]: 9462/10000 (No)
    (14+3+(6-4.5)) = 18.5 damage (Sableye)
    RNG Roll (Effect) [<=2000 Effect]: 3833/10000 (No)
    -14 energy
    Hydreigon fainted!



    Pwnemon:
    Bench (open)
    [​IMG]
    Pyroak (M)
    HP: 36
    En: 13
    Rank: 3/4/4/2
    Speed: 60
    SC/WC: 4/5
    Stats: N/A
    Status: N/A
    Other: N/A

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Colossoil (M) | Sableye (M)
    HP: 70 | 60
    En: 30 | 26
    Rank: 5/2/1/3 | 4/3/3/3
    Speed: 110 | 43
    SC/WC: 5/10 | 1/2
    Stats: +14% Acc | -10% Eva
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A

    Objection:
    - Stealth Rock
    - Reflect (2a)

    [​IMG] | [​IMG]
    Hydreigon (F) | Charizard (M)
    HP: KO | KO
    En: KO | KO
    Rank: 4/2/5/3 | 4/2/4/3
    Speed: 113 | 100
    SC/WC: 4/5 | 3/4
    Stats: +15% Acc | N/A
    Status: N/A | N/A
    Other: N/A | N/A​

    -----------

    Rewards:
    Pwnemon: 3 CC
    - Pyroak: 3 MC / 2 KOC
    - Gliscor: 3 MC
    - Colossoil: 3 MC / 1 KOC
    - Sableye: 3 MC / 1 KOC
    Objection: 3 CC
    - Charizard: 3 MC
    - Hydreigon: 3 MC / 1 KOC
    - Tomohawk: 3 MC
    - Hariyama: 3 MC
    Elevator Music: 12 UC
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    Great game, objection! You were definitely a great opponent in the finals round.
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