Team Tournament Round 2 - Athenodoros v EndQuote!

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Its_A_Random

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#27
Apologies for stepping in, but...

Okay, before this Disqualification can be official/overturned, I am going to discuss with authorities about this. Basically, Atheno/Harbingers exceeded DQ, yes, but there are a few things that niggle me here:

  • There seems to be no evidence that EndQuote has been given permission to call DQ.
  • Engineer never told anyone that he had updated the reffing, & hence, how was anyone from the Harbingers supposed to know that they were up in the battle? All three of them (Well, Leethoof has seemingly returned to activity land) are not very active at the moment, so apart from a VM/post, neither member would have known about it.
  • "-First of all, NO ONE GETS DQED UNLESS I SAY SO." - This pretty much becomes Authorities, given Flamestrike is AFK, & this being a Tournament, it is not exactly fair unless they were given sufficient warning - The first reminder about the battle given was when I VMed Atheno last night - ~2 hours before EndQuote called DQ.
  • I do not like the idea of a Player calling DQ in a match of this calibre.
With this in mind, I will discuss this with an authority. Nothing is to happen until either an authority or I post with an official decision. Thank you.
 
#29
I sincerely apologize, I was given to understand that players called DQ, from the first match I ever battled in to my most recent battles.
Even as a ref, I never called DQ, but instead waited until the other challenger called it.

DQ time for players will remain at 2 days. After that the team as a whole gets 3 extra days (so 5 days total from the time of the last post in the thread) to post. If at that point there still hasn't been a post, that match will end in a DQ.
Finally, if you (And your team, for that matter) take too long to post in your battle, you can still be disqualified
His team is being given the same treatment as everyone else as far as DQ rules are concerned
I took the above quotes to mean that, if Atheno exceeded DQ, he would be DQ'd. Otherwise, what is DQ for?
I didn't ask permission because:
1) I didn't know I needed permission to call DQ and
2) If I had stopped to think about it, I would have said the above quotes constitute permission.

If I've upset the process of the tourney, I sincerely apologize. I was only trying to follow rules you yourself put into place.
 

Athenodoros

Official Smogon Know-It-All
#30
Sorry all. IRL suddenly became hugely chaotic and bad, so I haven't been able to get on for a while. My bad completely.

With that said, I was under the impression that we were waiting for Engineer. I checked that thread occasionally and didn't realise that the modification had been made to my actions, so I was waiting for a post to tell me that I could proceed.

Hopefully then this means we can keep going. And so, without further ado, my actions:

Rock Slide ~ Earthquake ~ Rock Slide
IF Thunder Wave AND Fly is disabled, use Dive
IF Thunder Wave AND he hasn't used Agility, use Fly
 

Its_A_Random

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#31
I sincerely apologise, I was given to understand that players called DQ, from the first match I ever battled in to my most recent battles.
Even as a ref, I never called DQ, but instead waited until the other challenger called it.
Generally, it is considered good sportsusership as far as DQ is concerned to remind a user to post if they have exceeded DQ initially. If they do not adhere to the warning, then seek DQ. This is a Tournament Match, something of a higher calibre than a regular Tower Match. Because of how prestigious they are, rules are a lot more regulated than they are anywhere else. Given Flamestrike is not here with us, I am willing to be lenient on DQ, & so is others like Alch, but as Alch said, a DQ is the last thing we need in this tournament. The problem I have is in how rash you have been; taking what I have been saying out of context. I mean, you obviously did not see...
Atheno, idk where he is, but I have sent him a VM.
If you saw this, maybe you would have not had to call DQ in the first place. I was obviously mistaken.
I took the above quotes to mean that, if Atheno exceeded DQ, he would be DQ'd. Otherwise, what is DQ for?
He did exceed the deadline, but that does not mean you can go "Whee, free win, calling DQ." Did you remind Atheno & the rest of his team to post? Not that I am aware of. Did you ask me or Flame or Alch or someone else if it was absolutely okay to call it? As you said, you did not. That is not exactly good sportsusership from you, & I expected better. What is DQ for? To punish those who blatantly go on inactive streaks & ignore reminders to post.
I didn't ask permission because:
1) I didn't know I needed permission to call DQ and
I am a bit at fault there for not stating it clearly before this happened. All matches that have ended in DQ in this tourney as far as I am aware of have all been authorised, & I thought it was taken for granted you had to have permission. I was obviously mistaken.
2) If I had stopped to think about it, I would have said the above quotes constitute permission.
Quotes about DQ rules never constitute permission. As you say, you were very rash in your decision, which I do not like, & neither do others. What constitutes permission in this context is evidence that you asked for DQ to be called & got approved.
If I've upset the process of the tourney, I sincerely apologise. I was only trying to follow rules you yourself put into place.
Apology accepted, but the rules about DQ I never put into place - they were put into place long beforehand; I simply reminded users. The only thing I have pseudo-officiated was the permissions rule.

At any rate, I am not impressed that something like this happened, & I do not want a repeat of this. Since Atheno randomly posted a couple of hours ago, & the way DQ was brought up, coupled with the fact that we do not need another DQ...

DQ CALL OVERTURNED. CARRY ON AS NORMAL, & I DO NOT WANT A REPEAT OF THIS. ENGINEER, IF YOU MUST RE-REF A ROUND, YOU MUST LET USERS KNOW IT HAS HAPPENED. THANK YOU.

I am not being biased, but the way this has occurred is not a good look, & if this DQ call stood, it would simply open a floodgate of DQ's in the Tourney, with this match being used as precedence, which I do not want. Thank you all for your patience & cooperation.

Cheers!
Its_A_Random
 
#32
IAR, I'd like to take the opportunity to again apologize.
I sincerely didn't understand how DQ worked, and thought I was supposed to set it in motion. (Based on past battles I've already linked)

That being said, there is no reason to insult and ignore me, both here and on IRC.
I may have less experience than you, but there's no reason to be rude.

Atheno, welcome back. Let's let the curb-stomping continue, shall we?
 

Athenodoros

Official Smogon Know-It-All
#33
Atheno, welcome back. Let's let the curb-stomping continue, shall we?
I think this is a wonderful idea.

In any case, in case you missed my actions above they're there, ready for you to peruse at your leasure. If you did notice, then just ignore this post. Wrong number.
 

Engineer Pikachu

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#35
Athenodoros: AOX
Net HP: 200 / 310 (64.52%)


Nidhogg (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 71
5 / 3 / 5 / 3 | 4 / 6
Speed: 80 (—)
Inner Focus, Multiscale

Nestor (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 5 / 4 | 3 / 4
Speed: 26 (-10)
Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator

Poseidon (M)
KNOCKED OUT

EndQuote: XAO
Net HP: 163 / 300 (54.33%)


Watt (F)
HP: 63 | EN: 54
3 / 2 / 5 / 1 | 2 / 2
Speed: 108 (—)
Compoundeyes, Unnerve, Swarm
-1 Spe (1r)

Fang (M)

KNOCKED OUT

Odin (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 4 / 3 | 3 / 4
Speed: 73 (-10)
Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force

BEGIN ROUND SIX

Watt's strategy of confusion haxing only pays off once, though that boosted Earthquake seems to hit the Galvantula hard. Watt's Thunder attacks too seem to be slightly ineffective; could that have something to do with the glimmering armor around Nidhogg? Either way, the HP gap grows even bigger than before as Nidhogg's powerful attacks seem just too great for EndQuote's team to take; is there anything he can do to turn this around?

END ROUND SIX


Nidhogg used Rock Slide!
To-Hit (<=9000 Yes) 8509 (Yes)
To-Crit (<=625 Yes) 8072 (No)
To-Flinch (<=3000 Yes) 3100 (No)
(8 + 4.5) * 1.5 = 18.75 DMG
-6 EN

Watt used Swagger!
RNG Roll (CNF Dur) (2|3|4) 1603 (2a)
Nidhogg's Attack sharply rose!
-7 EN

==

Nidhogg is confused!
Hit Self (<=5000 Yes) 8493 (No)

Nidhogg used Earthquake!

To-Crit (<=625 Yes) 4052 (No)
(10 + 4.5) * 1 + 3.5 = 18 DMG
-7 EN

Watt used Thunder!
To-Hit (<=9100 Yes) 4972 (Yes)
To-Crit (<=625 Yes) 8484 (No)
To-PRZ (<=3000 Yes) 4091 (No)
(12 + 3 + 3) * 1 * 0.5 = 9 DMG
-7 EN

==

Nidhogg is confused!
Hit Self (<=5000 Yes) 2462 (Yes)

Nidhogg hit itself in its confusion!

(4 + 3) * 1 + 3.5 = 10.5 DMG
-3 EN

Watt used Thunder!
To-Hit (<=9100 Yes) 4100 (Yes)
To-Crit (<=625 Yes) 4476 (No)
To-PRZ (<=3000 Yes) 7477 (No)
(12 + 3 + 3) * 1 * 0.5 = 9 DMG
-11 EN

Athenodoros: AOX
Net HP: 171 / 310 (55.16%)


Nidhogg (M)
HP: 71 | EN: 55
5 / 3 / 5 / 3 | 4 / 6
Speed: 80 (—)
Inner Focus, Multiscale
+1 Atk (1r), CNF (0a)

Nestor (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 5 / 4 | 3 / 4
Speed: 26 (-10)
Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator

Poseidon (M)
KNOCKED OUT

EndQuote: XAO
Net HP: 126 / 300 (42.00%)


Watt (F)
HP: 26 | EN: 29
3 / 2 / 5 / 1 | 2 / 2
Speed: 108 (—)
Compoundeyes, Unnerve, Swarm

Fang (M)

KNOCKED OUT

Odin (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 4 / 3 | 3 / 4
Speed: 73 (-10)
Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
 
#36
Ordering first against that monster is no fun at all...

Thunderbolt ~ Discharge ~ Discharge
IF Dragonite uses Dive (Not extended) AND is underwater on your action THEN Double Discharge Combo
IF Fly AND Dragonite is up high on your action THEN Thunder
 

Athenodoros

Official Smogon Know-It-All
#37
Aerial Ace ~ Extremespeed ~ Extremespeed
IF you are fully paralysed, move actions along.


But seriously, I will rage if you get a paralysis on me in that action.
 

Engineer Pikachu

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#38
Athenodoros: AOX
Net HP: 171 / 310 (55.16%)


Nidhogg (M)
HP: 71 | EN: 55
5 / 3 / 5 / 3 | 4 / 6
Speed: 80 (—)
Inner Focus, Multiscale
+1 Atk (1r), CNF (0a)

Nestor (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 5 / 4 | 3 / 4
Speed: 26 (-10)
Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator

Poseidon (M)
KNOCKED OUT

EndQuote: XAO
Net HP: 126 / 300 (42.00%)


Watt (F)
HP: 26 | EN: 29
3 / 2 / 5 / 1 | 2 / 2
Speed: 108 (—)
Compoundeyes, Unnerve, Swarm

Fang (M)

KNOCKED OUT

Odin (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 4 / 3 | 3 / 4
Speed: 73 (-10)
Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force


BEGIN ROUND SEVEN

Watt drops a large bolt of thunder down on the flying Dragonite, electrifying the arena and dealing decent damage to Nidhogg. It seems that Athenodoros also groans a bit as the excess electricity causes Nidhogg to become paralyzed! Nidhogg doesn't seem to be too adversely affected, however, as he finishes off Watt in two quick attacks. Next!

END ROUND SEVEN


Watt used Thunderbolt!
RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 7550 (No)
RNG Roll (To-PRZ) (<=1000 Yes) 66 (Yes)
(10 + 3 + 3) * 1 = 16 DMG
Nidhogg was paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
-6 EN

Nidhogg snapped out of confusion!

RNG Roll (Full PRZ) (<=1500 Yes) 7724 (No)
Nidhogg used Aerial Ace!
RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 6061 (No)
(6 + 3 + 4.5) * 1 + 1.75 = 15.25 DMG
-3 EN

==

RNG Roll (Full PRZ) (<=1500 Yes) 5648 (No)
Nidhogg used ExtremeSpeed!
RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 2595 (No)
(8 + 4.5) * 1 + 1.75 = 14.25 DMG
-6 EN

Watt fainted!

Athenodoros: AOX
Net HP: 155 / 310 (50.00%)


Nidhogg (M)
HP: 55 | EN: 46
5 / 3 / 5 / 3 | 4 / 6
Speed: 80 (—)
Inner Focus, Multiscale
PRZ (10)

Nestor (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 5 / 4 | 3 / 4
Speed: 26 (-10)
Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator

Poseidon (M)
KNOCKED OUT

EndQuote: XXO
Net HP: 100 / 300 (33.33%)


Watt (F)
HP: -4 | EN: 23
3 / 2 / 5 / 1 | 2 / 2
Speed: 108 (—)
Compoundeyes, Unnerve, Swarm

Fang (M)

KNOCKED OUT

Odin (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 4 / 3 | 3 / 4
Speed: 73 (-10)
Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force

TURN ORDER
EndQuote sends in Odin the Nidoking (No Post Necessary)
Athenodoros issues actions.
EndQuote issues actions.
 

Athenodoros

Official Smogon Know-It-All
#39
Ice Beam ~ Surf ~ Ice Beam
IF Bide, use Heal Bell ~ Chill ~ Ice Beam from then
IF Ice Beam, use AgiliDodge if you didn't last action


And somehow I just know that this is going to backfire like last time.
 

Engineer Pikachu

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#41
Athenodoros: AOX
Net HP: 155 / 310 (50.00%)


Nidhogg (M)
HP: 55 | EN: 46
5 / 3 / 5 / 3 | 4 / 6
Speed: 80 (—)
Inner Focus, Multiscale
PRZ (10)

Nestor (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 5 / 4 | 3 / 4
Speed: 26 (-10)
Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator

Poseidon (M)
KNOCKED OUT

EndQuote: XXA
Net HP: 100 / 300 (33.33%)


Odin (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 4 / 3 | 3 / 4
Speed: 73 (-10)
Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force (E)

Fang (M)

KNOCKED OUT

Watt (F)
KNOCKED OUT

BEGIN ROUND EIGHT

Nidhogg begins with a show of graceful agility, managing to dodge the jet of freezing ice that comes its way at a rather high velocity. He turns back immediately and churns up the water in the moat around the arena, causing a high tide to crest down and smash into Odin, who manages to sneak into the Dragonite's mind and... erase one of its moves :o

Then, as Nidhogg fails to execute the same graceful maneuver it began the round with, Odin unleashes a massive blast of azure ice that strikes the Dragonite right in the face, knocking it out!

END ROUND EIGHT


RNG Roll (Full PRZ) (<=1000 Yes) 3690 (No)
Nidhogg used Agilidodge!
-7 EN

Odin used Ice Beam!
-7 EN

==

Odin used Disable!
Agility was Disabled!
-7 EN
RNG Roll (Full PRZ) (<=1000 Yes) 7601 (No)
Nidhogg used Surf!
RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 7714 (No)
(10 + 3) * 1.5 = 19.5 DMG
-7 EN

==

Nidhogg used Agility!
But it failed!

Odin used Mega Ice Beam!
RNG Roll (To-Crit, To-FRZ) Irrelevant
(22.5 + 2 + 1.5) * 2.5 = 58.5 DMG
-32 EN

Nidhogg fainted!

Athenodoros: XOX
Net HP: 100 / 310 (32.26%)


Nidhogg (M)
HP: KO | EN: 32
5 / 3 / 5 / 3 | 4 / 6
Speed: 80 (—)
Inner Focus, Multiscale
PRZ (5)

Nestor (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 5 / 4 | 3 / 4
Speed: 26 (-10)
Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator

Poseidon (M)
KNOCKED OUT

EndQuote: XXA
Net HP: 80 / 300 (26.67%)


Odin (M)
HP: 80 | EN: 54
3 / 3 / 4 / 3 | 3 / 4
Speed: 73 (-10)
Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force (E)
Cooldown (1a)

Fang (M)

KNOCKED OUT

Watt (F)
KNOCKED OUT

TURN ORDER
Athenodoros sends out Nestor the Slowking (NPN)
EndQuote issues actions.
Athenodoros issues actions.
 
#43
Yikes, double STAB disadvantage...

Enable Sheer Force
Cooldown ~ Thunderbolt ~ Thunderbolt
IF Damaging Psychic Combo, Dig and surface for the attack the next action. IF Slowking has a Light Screen up, then Megahorn

My poor Nidoking
 

Athenodoros

Official Smogon Know-It-All
#44
Hopefully we can finish this now. I appreciate not having to worry about parahax.

Surf ~ Psychic ~ Brine + Brine


And if I can count, that should be ggs.
 

Engineer Pikachu

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#45
Athenodoros: XAX
Net HP: 100 / 310 (32.26%)


Nestor (M)
HP: 100 | EN: 100
3 / 3 / 5 / 4 | 3 / 4
Speed: 26 (-10)
Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator

Nidhogg (M)
KNOCKED OUT

Poseidon (M)
KNOCKED OUT

EndQuote: XXA
Net HP: 80 / 300 (26.67%)


Odin (M)
HP: 80 | EN: 54
3 / 3 / 4 / 3 | 3 / 4
Speed: 73 (-10)
Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force (E)
Cooldown (1a)

Fang (M)

KNOCKED OUT

Watt (F)
KNOCKED OUT

BEGIN ROUND NINE

...and while Odin strikes back desperately with several well-timed and hard-hitting thunderbolts, he simply can't resist Nestor's repeated attacks, and at long last, a ridiculous blast of salt water knocks the Nidoking out, giving Athenodoros the win!

END ROUND NINE

Odin must recharge!

Nestor used Psychic!

RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 7030 (No)
RNG Roll (SpD Dec) (<=1000 Yes) 2867 (No)
(10 + 3 + 3) * 1.5 = 24 DMG
-6 EN

==

Odin used Thunderbolt!
RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 8800 (No)
(10 + 2) * 1.5 = 18 DMG
-7 EN

Nestor used Surf!
RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 2539 (No)
(10 + 3 + 3) * 1.5 = 24 DMG
-6 EN

==

Odin used Thunderbolt!
RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 1470 (No)
(10 + 2) * 1.5 = 18 DMG
-11 EN

Nestor used Mega Brine!
RNG Roll (To-Crit) (<=625 Yes) 4917 (No)
((13 * 2.25) + 3 + 3) * 1.5 = 52.875 DMG
-34 EN

Athenodoros: XAX
Net HP: 64 / 310 (20.65%)


Nestor (M)
HP: 64 | EN: 54
3 / 3 / 5 / 4 | 3 / 4
Speed: 26 (-10)
Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator
Cooldown (1a)

Nidhogg (M)
KNOCKED OUT

Poseidon (M)
KNOCKED OUT

EndQuote: XXX
Net HP: 0 / 300 (0.00%)


Odin (M)
HP: -21 | EN: 36
3 / 3 / 4 / 3 | 3 / 4
Speed: 73 (-10)
Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force (E)

Fang (M)

KNOCKED OUT

Watt (F)
KNOCKED OUT

REWARDS

Athenodoros:
2 CC
Poseidon: 3 MC, 1 KO
Nidhogg: 3 MC, 1 KO
Nestor: 3 MC, 1 KO

EndQuote: 2 CC
Fang: 3 MC
Watt: 3 MC, 1 KO
Odin: 3 MC, 1 KO

Engineer: 7 UC

Cheers!
 

Athenodoros

Official Smogon Know-It-All
#48
Hey ho let's go smash. Ready when you are and when the last few battles are...

But gg EndQuote, and all of CCC. These have been fun, even if a little bit long.
 

Orcinus Duo

Banned deucer.
#49
wolfe and endquote--I'd say more, but put simply, I really enjoyed working together, thanks for making this tournament a ton of fun. See you guys around!
 
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