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Tentacool (Update)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by dragonboy52, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. dragonboy52

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    Note:I'm very sorry for changing it to 2/2 without adding everything. I usually write from bottom to top and make the changes section by section. I'll make sure I add everything before changing the title in the future. ATM, I'm a little busy. Will implement the changes within 24 hours.

    [Overview]

    <p>Tentacool is a decent Pokemon in the LC metagame as it has a few traits that let it stand out from the rest. For instance, its usable Special Defense stat and typing make it a solid choice for a special wall, while its Poison typing makes it an asset to almost all teams as it allows Tentacool to absorb Toxic Spikes. Tentacool also has access to amazing support moves such as Rapid Spin, Toxic Spikes, and Knock Off, and its base 70 Speed is pretty good for a spinner. Tentacool's ability, Liquid Ooze, gives it a niche against Drain Punch users such as Timburr and Mienfoo. However, like most other Pokemon, Tentacool has its shortcomings. It has a terrible Defense stat, which leaves it vulnerable to almost any non-resisted physical move; its offenses aren't anything to write home about either. All in all, Tentacool is a viable Pokemon that stands out as a reliable and effective spinner.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Toxic Spikes
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Knock Off
    move 4: Scald / Giga Drain
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Liquid Ooze
    nature: Calm
    evs: 196 HP / 76 Def / 196 SpD / 36 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With access to Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin, coupled with a good Special Defense stat, Tentacool can effectively run a support set. Tentacool's high Special Defense stat lets it check special sweepers, such as Snover, but special sweepers that carry a boosting move, such as Nasty Plot Misdreavus, can set up on and KO Tentacool as it can't do much apart from Toxic stall them. Toxic Spikes is an important move on this set as it can potentially end up poisoning all your opponent's Pokemon, which stall teams greatly appreciate. Toxic Spikes can also cut short the sweeps of setup sweepers such as Drilbur by reducing their survivability. Rapid Spin is an essential move on almost any team as entry hazards are very common in the current metagame. Knock Off is a very useful move in a metagame filled with Pokemon dependent on Eviolite to perform their duties effectively; it can also remove other important items such as Choice Scarf and Life Orb. The last slot is reserved for an offensive move to ensure that Tentacool isn't completely shut down by Taunt and is not total setup fodder. Scald is a good STAB move as its burn chance can cripple physical attackers; it also severely dents Ground-types, such as Hippopotas, Drilbur, and Diglett. Giga Drain hits Chinchou and Staryu for decent damage and can potentially give Tentacool a form of recovery, but it is otherwise a weak attack.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread and nature maximize Tentacool's HP and Special Defense; one of the only things it can do effectively is tank special hits. Eviolite is the chosen item as it boosts Tentacool's defenses to a high 23 / 16 / 30. Liquid Ooze is the preferred ability if you aren't using Tentacool on a rain team as it helps Tentacool against Drain Punch and Giga Drain users, such as Mienfoo, Timburr, and Shroomish. As for alternative moves, Surf can be used over Scald for more power; this specifically nabs the guaranteed OHKO on Drilbur. Hydro Pump gives Tentacool even more power, but it is less reliable due to its shaky accuracy and low PP. Hidden Power Fire enables Tentacool to hit Steel-types such as Ferroseed for super effective damage. Sludge Bomb is a powerful STAB move that hurts many Grass-types, such as Shroomish and Chikorita, for super effective damage, while Ice Beam dents Flying-types such as Murkrow.</p>

    <p>Tentacool needs quite a lot of team support to perform its role effectively. As Poison-types such as Croagunk cause problems for Tentacool by absorbing its Toxic Spikes, Diglett makes for a good teammate as it can trap and KO them with a STAB Earthquake. Ferroseed has amazing synergy with Tentacool; Tentacool can take Fire- and Fighting-type attacks aimed at Ferroseed, while Ferroseed can take Psychic- and Electric-type moves aimed at Tentacool. Bronzor, too, has great synergy with Tentacool as Bronzor resists Ground and Psychic while Tentacool resists Fire. Choice Scarf Snover is another great teammate as it can switch in on Sand Rush Drilbur's Earthquake, nullify its ability with Snow Warning, outspeed it, and OHKO it with a STAB Blizzard or Giga Drain. Similarly, Snover can switch in on Hippopotas and OHKO it. In return, Tentacool can provide Rapid Spin support, which is very useful for Snover as it is affected by all forms of entry hazards. As Tentacool lacks any form of reliable recovery, Wish support from the likes of Natu can be very useful to fully restore Tentacool's HP. Cleric support is not a necessity, but it can be useful if Tentacool decides to run Rest. Pokemon such as Misdreavus and Gastly, who can deal with other spinblockers, are useful as one of Tentacool's main roles is to remove entry hazards from the field.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Tentacool can run Icy Wind to lower the opponent's Speed stat, which might force them to switch; this can be useful as Tentacool's main goal is to get all the opposing Pokemon poisoned by Toxic Spikes. An offensive Rapid Spin set with three attacks and Life Orb could work, but Staryu runs this set better as it has higher Speed and Special Attack. Magic Coat is a good option to bounce back all forms of entry hazards, status moves, and Taunt. Rain Dish and Rain Dance can be used together to give Tentacool some recovery and to boost the power of Tentacool's Water-type STAB moves. Swords Dance is a decent boosting move that can be used alongside Tentacool's physical moves, such as Waterfall and Poison Jab, but its low Attack stat leaves it outclassed by other Water-type Swords Dance users, such as Totodile. Venoshock is a great offensive move alongside Toxic Spikes as it power doubles when an opponent is poisoned. Similarly, Hex can be used to hit spinblocking Ghost-types for super effective damage.</p>

    <p>Haze is another great option for Tentacool as it can stop opponents from setting up on it, and also possibly stop a sweep. A simple RestTalk set with Toxic Spikes is a possibility to help Tentacool Toxic stall more efficiently. If you get lucky with confusion hax, Confuse Ray can be very useful in trying to Toxic stall the opponent. Barrier, which increases Tentacool's Defense by two stages, can somewhat make up for its terrible physical bulk. Acid Spray can force switches by halving the opponent's Special Defense. Mirror Coat works well with Tentacool's high Special Defense, but, unfortunately, it is illegal with Rapid Spin. Lastly, Toxic can be used if you want a more reliable way of poisoning the opposing Pokemon.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Croagunk is a hard counter to Tentacool thanks to its Dry Skin ability and resistance to Giga Drain; it can also absorb Toxic Spikes and 3HKO or 4HKO Tentacool with Shadow Ball or Dark Pulse. Abra and Smoochum can take one Scald with ease and OHKO Tentacool with STAB Psyshock. Scraggy and Dratini both don't fear Scald's burn chance due to Shed Skin; the latter resists Scald as well. Regardless, they can both set up on Tentacool with Dragon Dance and OHKO it with a +1 Crunch or Outrage, respectively. Chinchou can take Scalds with ease as it resists Water-type moves and is not greatly crippled by burn; it can then threaten Tentacool with super effective STAB moves in Thunderbolt and Volt Switch.</p>

    <p>Shroomish is a perfect example of a defensive Pokemon that can counter Tentacool; in addition to resisting Scald and Giga Drain, it benefits from being poisoned thanks to its Poison Heal ability. As Tentacool lacks reliable recovery, Shroomish can slowly wear it down with Giga Drain; however, Shroomish must be wary of Liquid Ooze and Sludge Bomb. Ferroseed's typing and bulk enable it to take Scald and Giga Drain with ease, and with Leech Seed, it can wear down Tentacool very quickly. Other defensive Grass-types, such as Chikorita, can also wall Tentacool if they can avoid Toxic Spikes.</p>

    <p>Defensive Misdreavus can counter Tentacool as it can take Scald with ease, block Rapid Spin, burn it with Will-O-Wisp, and wear it down with Shadow Ball. Nasty Plot variants, on the other hand, can set up on Tentacool and 2HKO it with a +2 Shadow Ball. Frillish can wall Tentacool with its Water Absorb ability and spinblock thanks to its Ghost typing, but it has to be wary of Giga Drain. Slowpoke can check Tentacool if it avoids Giga Drain and Toxic Spikes as it resists Scald and has access to STAB Psychic. Natu is another great counter as it can bounce back Toxic Spikes with its Magic Bounce ability; offensive variants can threaten Tentacool with Psyshock as well.</p>

    <p>Although it must be wary of a super effective Scald and its burn chance, Drilbur makes a good check as it can outspeed and OHKO Tentacool with STAB Earthquake. Diglett can check Tentacool too by trapping it and OHKOing with STAB Earthquake, but it absolutely cannot switch into either Scald or Giga Drain. In general, any physical attacker that carries a super effective move can muscle through Tentacool's terrible Defense.</p>

    <p>Defensive Misdreavus can counter Tentacool as it can take Scald with ease, block Rapid Spin, burn it with Will-O-Wisp, and wear it down with Shadow Ball. Nasty Plot variants on the other hand can set up on Tentacool and 2HKO it with +2 Shadow Ball. Frillish can wall Tentacool with its Water Absorb ability and spinblock thanks to its Ghost typing, but it has to be wary of Giga Drain. Slowpoke can check Tentacool if it avoids Giga Drain and Toxic Spikes as it resists Scald and has access to STAB Psychic. Natu is another great counter as it can bounce back Toxic Spikes with its Magic Bounce ability; offensive variants can threaten Tentacool with Psyshock as well.</p>

    <p>Although it must be wary of a super effective Scald and its burn chance, Drilbur makes a good check as it can outspeed and OHKO Tentacool with STAB Earthquake. Diglett can check Tentacool too by trapping it and OHKOing with STAB Earthquake, but it absolutely cannot switch into either Scald or Giga Drain. In general, any physical attacker that carries a super effective move can muscle through Tentacool's terrible Defense.</p>
  2. spuds4ever

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    Meh, ime, I would say tentacool makes a pretty mediocre mienfoo check, HJK still does a lot hitting tentacool's pretty poor defense stat. I think a much more attractive factor is that it is the best snover check in the tier, so maybe add that.

    Giga drain definetely wants a mention, maybe even a slash, I find it's very handy just to get some good HP back from chinchou rather than just being fodder for it. Rest with cleric support might be worth a word or two too. HP fire could also be added if you are using tentacool specifically to beat snover and it smashes ferroseed which is a nice bonus.

    I would put croagunk in the C&C as tentacool can't really touch it outside of HP fire and psychic (I think it gets that) and it removes toxic spikes and croagunk can just wear it down with shadow ball or whatever.

    Looks good to me otherwise :)
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    Definitely slash Giga Drain somewhere. That recovery is really helpful sometimes. Slash it with Knock Off. Hydro Pump is also good for catching people off-guard uhmcharmanderfuuhm.
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    Implemented the changes; thanks guys!
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    I don't think you want Toxic Spikes in this metagame. Croagunk and Staryu are everywhere and most of the tier's best sweepers dont care about toxic spikes(murkrow, missy, scraggy, mienfoo but not really a sweeper). Not to mention that Natu laughs at you, only fearing a Scald burn.

    set should be...
    name: Support
    move 1: Rapid Spin
    move 2: Knock Off
    move 3: Scald
    move 4: Giga Drain / Toxic Spikes
    item: Eviolite
    nature: Calm
    evs: 116 HP / 156 Def / 196 SpD / 36 Spe

    maybe even an ac mention
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    name: Support
    move 1: Toxic Spikes
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Knock Off
    move 4: Scald / Giga Drain
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Liquid Ooze
    nature: Calm
    evs: 196 HP / 76 Def / 196 SpD / 36 Spe

    Please change the main set to that. I'll explain the reasons for the changes. First, the nature should only be Liquid Ooze unless this is run on a Rain team. That lets Tentacool turn into a Ferroseed counter pretty much, while actually letting it beat Timburr and Croagunk, its most common switch-in. Rain is not used nearly enough to merit equal choice among the abilities. Furthermore, the ev spread was rather inefficient. The only things Tentacool should be tanking are special attacks and either weak or resisted physical attacks. The extra point in defense didn't make any difference in common attacks like Scraggy's Crunch or Timburr's Drain Punch. While it did make a difference in something like Drilbur's Rock Slide...lol it's Drilbur. Instead, with this, you get an extra point in HP, which assists with special tanking, Tentacool's primary forte, without hindering Tentacool's ability to switch into neutral or weak physical attacks. Instead, it improves its walling on both sides, making this the more efficient spread. Finally, Knock Off just straight up kicks ass on Tentacool. As we all know its offenses are pitiful, its support options are just the best things in its repertoire. Knock Off makes people think twice about switching into Tentacool...while Giga Drain doesn't. Finally, as its offenses are so weak, it doesn't really make a difference if you have Scald or Giga Drain...Giga Drain to hit Staryu / Chinchou primarily, but else who cares? It's Tentacool.

    Change the Set Comments accordingly. Change the description of Tentacool's bulk in the AC, as I changed it. This set hits 23 / 16 / 30 defenses. Venoshock is dumb, so remove that from the AC. Instead, talk about Sludge Bomb. Mention Ice Beam as well, in order to hit Dragon-type Pokemon super effectively, though aside from that and being its only move to hit Croagunk for neutral damage, it doesn't mean much. Also, give a small mention to Surf and Hydro Pump, and Hidden Power Fire. Since Tentacool's offenses are so poor, choosing attacking moves to specifically hit certain targets isn't a big loss, and it merits an AC mention. Else, that's good. Please expand more on specific partners, though. This is looking rather skimpy. Add Diglett as a partner for sure in taking out grounded Poison-type Pokemon.

    I want you to tighten up the OO a bit. Remove the mentions of Surf / Offensive moves, though I WOULD like you to mention a more offensive Rapid Spin set (three attacks / Rapid Spin, probably, maybe even with Life Orb???...just mention "offensive Rapid Spin" p much in the write up). With Rest, mention Sleep Talk as well, though that's not a necessity. I want you to add Hex / Venoshock, along with Acid Spray. Add Barrier, Magic Coat, and Confuse Ray. Remove Aqua Ring because it's retarded.

    Finally, the checks / counters are looking good, but make sure to add Dragon-type Pokemon, Staryu, all Grass-types pretty much, Diglett, Natu etc.

    All of this and QC 1/2.
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    What blarajan said.

    QC 2/2
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    No. You didn't fix the AC of that set or your OO as I (and Iss) said at all. Please take another look at the check and make changes accordingly.

    REMOVE Venoshock from the AC. ADD Sludge Bomb, Ice Beam, Surf / Hydro Pump, and Hidden Power in the AC. EXPAND on the teammates (don't just add Diglett).

    REMOVE the mentions of coverage options in the OO (aside from Icy Wind), but specifically ADD an offensive Rapid Spin set (which you didn't do). REMOVE Aqua Ring from the OO. ADD a mention of Sleep Talk. ADD Venoshock / Hex. Finally, ADD Barrier, Magic Coat, Confuse Ray, and Acid Spray.

    Please take another look at the QC check one more time. If you ignore 3/4 of the check but then mark it as QC 2/2 done again, you won't be writing Little Cup analyses in the future.
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    Please explain how good Mirror Coat is in OO but make sure you mention it's illegal with Rapid Spin
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    changes implemented

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    Placeholder for am GP check. DONE.

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    [Overview]

    <p>Tentacool is a decent Pokemon in the LC metagame;, as it has a few traits that let it stand out from the rest. For oninstance, it has a very high Special Defense, which, when combined with a decent typing, makes stat and decent typing in Water / Posion, making Tentacool a solid choice for a special wall. Its pPoison-typing alone makes it an asset to almost all teams as it allows Tentacool to absorb Toxic Spikes. Tentacool also has access to amazing support moves such as Rapid Spin, Toxic Spikes, and Knock Off. Its base 70 Speed is pretty good for a spinner's base 70 Speed allows it to comfortably outspeed most of the LC metagame, even without investment. Tentacool's ability, Liquid Ooze, gives it a niche use against Timburr's and Mienfoo's Drain Punches. Thentacool also has an amazing support movepool, with moves such as Rapid Spin, Toxic Spikes, and Knock Off. These aforementioned traits make Tentacool a reliable and effective spinner in the metagame. However, like most other Pokemon, Tentacool has its shortcomings. I: it has a terrible Defense stat which makes it vulnerable to almost any non-resisted physical move. Tentacool's offenses aren't anything to write home about either. All in all, Tentacool is a decent Pokemon that stands out as a good spinnerNot to be underestimated, however, Tentacool is a decent Pokemon that effectively fill the role of a Rapid Spin user for your team.

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Toxic Spikes
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Knock Off
    move 4: Scald / Giga Drain
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Liquid Ooze
    nature: Calm
    evs: 196 HP / 76 Def / 196 SpD / 36 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With its access to Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin, coupled withand a good Special Defense stat, Tentacool can effectively run a support set. Tentacool's high Special Defense stat lets it check special sweepers, such as Snover. However, special sweepers carrying a boosting move can set up on Tentacool as it can't do much apart from Toxic stall, and subsequently KO itand subsequently KO it, as Tentacool suffers from a lack of solid attacking options. Toxic Spikes is an important move on this set as it can potentially poison all the opposing Pokemon, making it very easy for a stall team to function. Toxic Spikes can also cuts short the sweeps of set up sweepers such as Drillbur by reducing their survivabillongevity. Rapid Spin is an essential move on almost any team as entry hazards are very common in the currentLC metagame. Knock Off is a very useful move in a metagame filled with Pokemon dependaent on Eviolite to perform their duties effectivelyboost their defensive stats. Knock Off can also be used to remove other important items such as Choice Scarfs and Life Orb from sweepers. An offensive move is used on the last fourth moveslot to ensure that Tentacool isn't completely shut down by Taunt and is not. It also prevents Tentacool from beginning set up fodder for sweepers. Scald is a good STAB move as it has a chance to completely cripple physciical attackers with a burn. Scald also hits opposing Ground-types such as Hippopotas, Drilbur, and Diglett hard. Giga Drain hits Chinchou and Staryu for decent damage and gives Tentacool a form of recovery, but otherwise, it is a weak attack.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread usedfor this set maximizes Tentacool's HP and Special Defense. The reason tofor this is because the only thing Tentacool can doonly effectively is tank special hits. A Calm nature only further increases its Special Defense. An Eviolite is the chosen item on this set as it boosts Tentacool's defenses, with which, Tentacool hits 23 / 30 / 16reaches 23 / 16 / 30 defenses. Liquid Ooze is the preferred ability if you aren't using Tentacool on a rain team as it helps Tentacool againsttake hits from Mienfoo's and Timburr's Drain Punches andtake them down in the process. Liquid Ooze also help Tentacool beat Grass-types such as Shroomish that carry Giga Drain. In terms of alternatives, Surf can be used over Scald for more power. Surf allows Tentacool to score a guaranteed OHKO on Drilbur 100% of the time. Hydro Pump gives Tentacool even50% more power than Scald, but it is less reliable due to its shaky accuracy. Hidden Power Fire gives Tentacool somethinga good move to hit Steel-types such as Ferroseed and Bronzor for super effective damage. Sludge Bomb is a powerful STAB move that hurts many Grass-types such as Shroomish and Chikorita for super effective damage. Ice Beam hits Flying-types such as Murkrow hard.</p>

    <p>Tentacool needs quite a lot of team support to perform its role effectively. As Poison-types such as Croagunk threaten Tentacool by absorbing Toxic Spikes, Diglett makes a good teammatepartner as it can trap and KO themPoison-types that threaten Tentacool such as Croagunk with a STAB Earthquake. Ferroseed has amazing synergy with Tentacool;, as Tentacool can take out Fire- and Fighting-types Pokemon aimed at Ferroseed, while Ferroseed can take Psychic- and Electric-types Pokemon aimed at Tentacool. Bronzor, too, has great synergy wih Tentacool as Bronzor can take Ground- and Psychic-type attacks, while Tentacool can easily take Fire-type attacks. Choice Scarf Snover is another great teammate as it can switch in on a Sand Rush Drilbur's Earthquake in sand aimed at Tentacool, nullify its Sand Rush ability with Snow Warning, outspeed it, andand subsequently OHKO it with a STAB Blizzard or Giga Drain. Similarly, Tentacool can switch in on Hippopotas and OHKO it. In return, Tentacool can provide Rapid Spin support which is very useful for Snover as it is affected by all forms of entry hazards. As Tentacool lacks any form of reliable recovery, Wish support from the likes of Natu can be very useful as it can completely restore its HP. Heal Bell support is not a necessity, but it can be useful whenif Tentacool decidesis needed to run Rest. Pokemon such as Misdreavus and Gastly that can deal with other spin blockers are useful as one of Tentacool's main role is to spin entry hazards from the field.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Tentacool can run Icy Wind to lower the opponents Speed stat which might force them toto force a switch, and this can be useful as Tentacool's main goal is to get all the opposing Pokemon posiisoned with Toxic Spikes. An offensive Rapid Spin set with three attacks and Life Orb could work, but Staryu can run this set better as it has higher Speed and higher Special Attack. Magic Coat is a good option as it can be used to bounce back all forms of entry hazards, status moves, and Taunt. Rain Dish and Rain Dance can be used togetheris a viable combo to give Tentacool some recovery and to boost the power of Tentacool's Water-type STAB moves. Swords Dance is a decent boosting move that can be used along with Tentacool's physical moves such as Waterfall and Poison Jab, but its low Attack stat makes it outclassed by other Water-type Swords Dance users such as Totodile. Haze is another great option for Tentacool as it can be used to stop Pokemon from setting up on it and it can also possibly stop a sweep. A simple RestTalk set with Toxic Spikes is a possibility as it can be used to make Toxic stalling opponents easier for Tentacoolsimply Tentacool's role of a Toxic staller. Venoshock is a great offensive move that can be used alongsidewith Toxic Spikes as its power doubles when an opponent is poisoned. Similarly, Hex can be used to hit Ghost-types that like to switch into Tentacool andto spin block, for super effective damage. Barrier can be used to increase Tentacool's Defense by two stages which. This somewhat makes up for its terrible physical bulk. If you get lucky withThe additional damage from confusion hax,makes Confuse Ray can be verya useful move while trying to Toxic stall the opponent. Acid Spray is useful as it lowers the opponents Special Defense by two stages, which might force out the oppositiona switch. Mirror Coat works well with Tentacool's high Special Defense, but unfortunately, it is illegal with Rapid Spin. Lastly, Toxic can be used if you want a more reliable way of posiisoning the opposing Pokemon, but this is inferior to Toxic Spikes.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Although itWhile Drilbur must be vwary of a Scald and the chance of burn associated with it, Drillbur makeit is a good counter to Tentacool as it can outspeed it and OHKO Tentacoolit with a STAB Earthquake. Abra and Smoochum can take at least one Scald with ease and can OHKO Tentacool with a STAB Psyshock. Scarraggy can effectively check Tentacool as it doesn't fear a burn from Scald thanks to its Shed Skin ability; it ca. Scraggy can then set up on Tentacool with Dragon Dance and OHKO it with a +1 Crunch. Thanks to its Dry Skin ability and resistance to Giga Drain, Croagunk hard counters Tentacool as it can take anything Tentacool has to offer. Croagunk can also absorb Toxic Spikes and 3-4HKO Tentacool with Shadow Ball or Dark Pulse. Chinchou can take Scalds with ease as it resists Water-type moves and is not greatly crippled by burn. Chinchou can also threaten Tentacool with its STAB, super effective Thunderbolt andor Volt Switch. Dratini's Dragon typing gives it a resistance to Tentacool's Scald and thanks to its Shed Skin ability, Dratini doesn't fear a burn. Dratini can also set up on Tentacool with Dragon Dance and OHKO it with a +1 Outrage. Diglett can check Tentacool as it can trap it and OHKO it with a STAB Earthquake, but it absolutely cannot switch into a Scald or Giga Drain. In general, any physical attacker carrying a super effective move can ploughmuscle through Tentacool's terrible Defense stat.</p>

    <p>Shroomish is a prefect example of a defensive Pokemon that can check Tentacool, as it benefits from being poisoned thanks to its Poison Heal ability and resists Scald and Giga Drain. Because of Tentacool's lack of reliable recovery, Shroomish can also slowly wear it down with Giga Drain, however, it must be wary of Liquid Ooze and Sludge Bomb. Other defensive Grass-types such as Chikorita can also wall Tentacool if they can avoid Toxic Spikes and being poisoned. Defensive Misdreavus can also check Tentacool as it can take Tentacool's Scalds with ease, block Rapid Spin, burn it with Will-O-Wisp, and wear it down with Shadow Ball. If Misdreavus carries Nasty Plot, it can set up on Tentacool and 2HKO it with a +2 Shadow Ball. Ferroseed's typing and bulk allow it to take Scalds and Giga Drains with ease, and with Leech Seed, it can wear down Tentacool very quickly. Although it has to be wary of Giga Drain, Frillish can wall Tentacool with its Water Absorb ability, and thanks to its Ghost-typing, Frillish can also spin block entry hazards. Natu is another great counter as it can bounce back Toxic Spikes with its Magic Bounce ability and offensive variants can threaten Tentacool with a Psyshock. Slowpoke can check any Tentacool that doesn't carry Giga Drain if it can around Toxic Spikes as it resists Scald and has access to STAB Psychic. However, Slowpoke needs Toxic Spikes out of the way to counter Tentacool.</p>


    Sorry man, need to leave right now, so I can't stick around to give comments. I'll just say that the write-up's good, just be mindful of Pokemon spelling and long sentences.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Tentacool is a decent Pokemon in the LC metagame as it has a few traits that let it stand out from the rest. For instance, its usable Special Defense stat and typing make it a solid choice for a special wall, while its Poison typing makes it an asset to almost all teams as it allows Tentacool to absorb Toxic Spikes. Tentacool also has access to amazing support moves such as Rapid Spin, Toxic Spikes, and Knock Off, and its base 70 Speed is pretty good for a spinner. Tentacool's ability, Liquid Ooze, gives it a niche against Drain Punch users such as Timburr and Mienfoo. However, like most other Pokemon, Tentacool has its shortcomings. It has a terrible Defense stat, which leaves it vulnerable to almost any non-resisted physical move; its offenses aren't anything to write home about either. All in all, Tentacool is a viable Pokemon that stands out as a reliable and effective spinner.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Toxic Spikes
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Knock Off
    move 4: Scald / Giga Drain
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Liquid Ooze
    nature: Calm
    evs: 196 HP / 76 Def / 196 SpD / 36 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With access to Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin, coupled with a good Special Defense stat, Tentacool can effectively run a support set. Tentacool's high Special Defense stat lets it check special sweepers, such as Snover, but special sweepers that carry a boosting move, such as (who?), can set up on and KO Tentacool as it can't do much apart from Toxic stall them. Toxic Spikes is an important move on this set as it can potentially poison all the opposing Pokemon, which stall teams greatly appreciate. Toxic Spikes can also cut short the sweeps of setup sweepers such as Drilbur by reducing their survivability. Rapid Spin is an essential move on almost any team as entry hazards are very common in the current metagame. Knock Off is a very useful move in a metagame filled with Pokemon dependent on Eviolite to perform their duties effectively; it can also remove other important items such as Choice Scarf and Life Orb. The last slot is reserved for an offensive move to ensure that Tentacool isn't completely shut down by Taunt and is not total setup fodder. Scald is a good STAB move as its burn chance might cripple physical attackers; it also severely dents Ground-types, such as Hippopotas, Drilbur, and Diglett. Giga Drain hits Chinchou and Staryu for decent damage and can potentially give Tentacool a form of recovery, but it is otherwise a weak attack.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread and nature maximize Tentacool's HP and Special Defense; the only thing it can do effectively is tank special hits. Eviolite is the chosen item as it boosts Tentacool's defenses to a high of 23 / 16 / 30. Liquid Ooze is the preferred ability if you aren't using Tentacool on a rain team as it helps Tentacool against Drain Punch and Giga Drain from the likes of Mienfoo, Timburr, and Shroomish. As for alternative moves, Surf can be used over Scald for more power; this specifically nabs the guaranteed OHKO on Drilbur. Hydro Pump gives Tentacool even more power, but it is less reliable due to its shaky accuracy, and Hidden Power Fire enables Tentacool to hit Steel-types such as Ferroseed for super effective damage. Sludge Bomb is a powerful STAB move that hurts many Grass-types, such as Shroomish and Chikorita, for super effective damage, while Ice Beam dents Flying-types such as Murkrow.</p>

    <p>Tentacool needs quite a lot of team support to perform its role effectively. As Poison-types such as Croagunk cause problems for Tentacool by absorbing its Toxic Spikes, Diglett makes a good teammate as it can trap and KO them with a STAB Earthquake. Ferroseed has amazing synergy with Tentacool; Tentacool can take Fire- and Fighting-type attacks aimed at Ferroseed, while Ferroseed can take Psychic- and Electric-type moves aimed at Tentacool. Bronzor, too, has great synergy with Tentacool as Bronzor resists Ground and Psychic while Tentacool resists Fire. Choice Scarf Snover is another great teammate as it can switch in on Sand Rush Drilbur's Earthquake, nullify its ability with Snow Warning, outspeed it, and OHKO it with a STAB Blizzard or Giga Drain. Similarly, Snover can switch in on Hippopotas and OHKO it. In return, Tentacool can provide Rapid Spin support, which is very useful for Snover as it is affected by all forms of entry hazards. As Tentacool lacks any form of reliable recovery, Wish support from the likes of Natu can be very useful to completely restore Tentacool's HP. Cleric support is not a necessity, but it can be useful if Tentacool decides to run Rest. Pokemon such as Misdreavus and Gastly, who can deal with other spinblockers, are useful as one of Tentacool's main roles is to remove entry hazards from the field.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Tentacool can run Icy Wind to lower the opponent's Speed stat, which might force them to switch; this can be useful as Tentacool's main goal is to get all the opposing Pokemon poisoned by Toxic Spikes. An offensive Rapid Spin set with three attacks and Life Orb could work, but Staryu can run this set better as it has higher Speed and higher Special Attack. Magic Coat is a good option to bounce back all forms of entry hazards, status moves, and Taunt. Rain Dish and Rain Dance can be used together to give Tentacool some recovery and to boost the power of Tentacool's Water-type STAB moves. Swords Dance is a decent boosting move that can be used along with Tentacool's physical moves, such as Waterfall and Poison Jab, but its low Attack stat leaves it outclassed by other Water-type Swords Dance users, such as Totodile. Venoshock is a great offensive move alongside Toxic Spikes as it power doubles when an opponent is poisoned. Similarly, Hex can be used to hit spinblocking Ghost-types for super effective damage.</p>

    <p>Haze is another great option for Tentacool as it can stop opponents from setting up on it, and also possibly stop a sweep. A simple RestTalk set with Toxic Spikes is a possibility for easier Toxic stalling. If you get lucky with confusion hax, Confuse Ray can be very useful in trying to Toxic stall the opponent. Barrier, which increases Tentacool's Defense by two stages, can somewhat make up for its terrible physical bulk. Acid Spray can force switches by halving the opponent's Special Defense. Mirror Coat works well with Tentacool's high Special Defense, but unfortunately, it is illegal with Rapid Spin. Lastly, Toxic can be used if you want a more reliable way of poisoning the opposing Pokemon.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Croagunk is a hard counter to Tentacool thanks to its Dry Skin ability and resistance to Giga Drain; it can also absorb Toxic Spikes and 3HKO or 4HKO Tentacool with Shadow Ball or Dark Pulse. Abra and Smoochum can take one Scald with ease and OHKO Tentacool with STAB Psyshock. Scraggy and Dratini both don't fear Scald's burn chance due to Shed Skin; the latter resists Scald as well. Regardless, they can both set up on Tentacool with Dragon Dance and OHKO it with a +1 Crunch or Outrage, respectively. Chinchou can take Scalds with ease as it resists Water-type moves and is not greatly crippled by burn; it can then threaten Tentacool with super effective STAB moves in Thunderbolt and Volt Switch.</p>

    <p>Shroomish is a perfect example of a defensive Pokemon that can counter Tentacool; in addition to resisting Scald and Giga Drain, it benefits from being poisoned thanks to its Poison Heal ability. As Tentacool lacks reliable recovery, Shroomish can slowly wear it down with Giga Drain; however, Shroomish must be wary of Liquid Ooze and Sludge Bomb. Ferroseed's typing and bulk allow it to take Scald and Giga Drain with ease, and with Leech Seed, it can wear down Tentacool very quickly. Other defensive Grass-types, such as Chikorita, can also wall Tentacool if they can avoid Toxic Spikes.</p>

    <p>Defensive Misdreavus can counter Tentacool as it can take Scald with ease, block Rapid Spin, burn it with Will-O-Wisp, and wear it down with Shadow Ball. Nasty Plot variants on the other hand can set up on Tentacool and 2HKO it with +2 Shadow Ball. Frillish can wall Tentacool with its Water Absorb ability and spinblock thanks to its Ghost typing, but it has to be wary of Giga Drain. Slowpoke can check Tentacool if it avoids Giga Drain and Toxic Spikes as it resists Scald and has access to STAB Psychic. Natu is another great counter as it can bounce back Toxic Spikes with its Magic Bounce ability; offensive variants can threaten Tentacool with Psyshock as well.</p>

    <p>Although it must be wary of a super effective Scald and its burn chance, Drilbur makes a good check as it can outspeed and OHKO Tentacool with STAB Earthquake. Diglett can check Tentacool too by trapping it and OHKOing with STAB Earthquake, but it absolutely cannot switch into either Scald or Giga Drain. In general, any physical attacker that carries a super effective move can muscle through Tentacool's terrible Defense.</p>


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    [Overview]

    <p>Tentacool is a decent Pokemon in the LC metagame as it has a few traits that let it stand out from the rest. For instance, its usable Special Defense stat and typing make it a solid choice for a special wall, while its Poison typing makes it an asset to almost all teams as it allows Tentacool to absorb Toxic Spikes. Tentacool also has access to amazing support moves such as Rapid Spin, Toxic Spikes, and Knock Off, and its base 70 Speed is pretty good for a spinner. Tentacool's ability, Liquid Ooze, gives it a niche against Drain Punch users such as Timburr and Mienfoo. However, like most other Pokemon, Tentacool has its shortcomings. It has a terrible Defense stat, which leaves it vulnerable to almost any non-resisted physical move; its offenses aren't anything to write home about either. All in all, Tentacool is a viable Pokemon that stands out as a reliable and effective spinner.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Toxic Spikes
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Knock Off
    move 4: Scald / Giga Drain
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Liquid Ooze
    nature: Calm
    evs: 196 HP / 76 Def / 196 SpD / 36 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>With access to Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin, coupled with a good Special Defense stat, Tentacool can effectively run a support set. Tentacool's high Special Defense stat lets it check special sweepers, such as Snover, but special sweepers that carry a boosting move, such as Nasty Plot Misdreavus, can set up on and KO Tentacool as it can't do much apart from Toxic stall them. Toxic Spikes is an important move on this set as it can potentially end up poisoning all your opponent's Pokemon, which stall teams greatly appreciate. Toxic Spikes can also cut short the sweeps of setup sweepers such as Drilbur by reducing their survivability. Rapid Spin is an essential move on almost any team as entry hazards are very common in the current metagame. Knock Off is a very useful move in a metagame filled with Pokemon dependent on Eviolite to perform their duties effectively; it can also remove other important items such as Choice Scarf and Life Orb. The last slot is reserved for an offensive move to ensure that Tentacool isn't completely shut down by Taunt and is not total setup fodder. Scald is a good STAB move as its burn chance can cripple physical attackers; it also severely dents Ground-types, such as Hippopotas, Drilbur, and Diglett. Giga Drain hits Chinchou and Staryu for decent damage and can potentially give Tentacool a form of recovery, but it is otherwise a weak attack.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread and nature maximize Tentacool's HP and Special Defense; one of the only things it can do effectively is tank special hits. Eviolite is the chosen item as it boosts Tentacool's defenses to a high 23 / 16 / 30. Liquid Ooze is the preferred ability if you aren't using Tentacool on a rain team as it helps Tentacool against Drain Punch and Giga Drain users, such as Mienfoo, Timburr, and Shroomish. As for alternative moves, Surf can be used over Scald for more power; this specifically nabs the guaranteed OHKO on Drilbur. Hydro Pump gives Tentacool even more power, but it is less reliable due to its shaky accuracy and low PP. Hidden Power Fire enables Tentacool to hit Steel-types such as Ferroseed for super effective damage. Sludge Bomb is a powerful STAB move that hurts many Grass-types, such as Shroomish and Chikorita, for super effective damage, while Ice Beam dents Flying-types such as Murkrow.</p>

    <p>Tentacool needs quite a lot of team support to perform its role effectively. As Poison-types such as Croagunk cause problems for Tentacool by absorbing its Toxic Spikes, Diglett makes for a good teammate as it can trap and KO them with a STAB Earthquake. Ferroseed has amazing synergy with Tentacool; Tentacool can take Fire- and Fighting-type attacks aimed at Ferroseed, while Ferroseed can take Psychic- and Electric-type moves aimed at Tentacool. Bronzor, too, has great synergy with Tentacool as Bronzor resists Ground and Psychic while Tentacool resists Fire. Choice Scarf Snover is another great teammate as it can switch in on Sand Rush Drilbur's Earthquake, nullify its ability with Snow Warning, outspeed it, and OHKO it with a STAB Blizzard or Giga Drain. Similarly, Snover can switch in on Hippopotas and OHKO it. In return, Tentacool can provide Rapid Spin support, which is very useful for Snover as it is affected by all forms of entry hazards. As Tentacool lacks any form of reliable recovery, Wish support from the likes of Natu can be very useful to fully restore Tentacool's HP. Cleric support is not a necessity, but it can be useful if Tentacool decides to run Rest. Pokemon such as Misdreavus and Gastly, who can deal with other spinblockers, are useful as one of Tentacool's main roles is to remove entry hazards from the field.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Tentacool can run Icy Wind to lower the opponent's Speed stat, which might force them to switch; this can be useful as Tentacool's main goal is to get all the opposing Pokemon poisoned by Toxic Spikes. An offensive Rapid Spin set with three attacks and Life Orb could work, but Staryu runs this set better as it has higher Speed and Special Attack. Magic Coat is a good option to bounce back all forms of entry hazards, status moves, and Taunt. Rain Dish and Rain Dance can be used together to give Tentacool some recovery and to boost the power of Tentacool's Water-type STAB moves. Swords Dance is a decent boosting move that can be used alongside Tentacool's physical moves, such as Waterfall and Poison Jab, but its low Attack stat leaves it outclassed by other Water-type Swords Dance users, such as Totodile. Venoshock is a great offensive move alongside Toxic Spikes as it power doubles when an opponent is poisoned. Similarly, Hex can be used to hit spinblocking Ghost-types for super effective damage.</p>

    <p>Haze is another great option for Tentacool as it can stop opponents from setting up on it, and also possibly stop a sweep. A simple RestTalk set with Toxic Spikes is a possibility to help Tentacool Toxic stall more efficiently. If you get lucky with confusion hax, Confuse Ray can be very useful in trying to Toxic stall the opponent. Barrier, which increases Tentacool's Defense by two stages, can somewhat make up for its terrible physical bulk. Acid Spray can force switches by halving the opponent's Special Defense. Mirror Coat works well with Tentacool's high Special Defense, but, unfortunately, it is illegal with Rapid Spin. Lastly, Toxic can be used if you want a more reliable way of poisoning the opposing Pokemon.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Croagunk is a hard counter to Tentacool thanks to its Dry Skin ability and resistance to Giga Drain; it can also absorb Toxic Spikes and 3HKO or 4HKO Tentacool with Shadow Ball or Dark Pulse. Abra and Smoochum can take one Scald with ease and OHKO Tentacool with STAB Psyshock. Scraggy and Dratini both don't fear Scald's burn chance due to Shed Skin; the latter resists Scald as well. Regardless, they can both set up on Tentacool with Dragon Dance and OHKO it with a +1 Crunch or Outrage, respectively. Chinchou can take Scalds with ease as it resists Water-type moves and is not greatly crippled by burn; it can then threaten Tentacool with super effective STAB moves in Thunderbolt and Volt Switch.</p>

    <p>Shroomish is a perfect example of a defensive Pokemon that can counter Tentacool; in addition to resisting Scald and Giga Drain, it benefits from being poisoned thanks to its Poison Heal ability. As Tentacool lacks reliable recovery, Shroomish can slowly wear it down with Giga Drain; however, Shroomish must be wary of Liquid Ooze and Sludge Bomb. Ferroseed's typing and bulk enable it to take Scald and Giga Drain with ease, and with Leech Seed, it can wear down Tentacool very quickly. Other defensive Grass-types, such as Chikorita, can also wall Tentacool if they can avoid Toxic Spikes.</p>

    <p>Defensive Misdreavus can counter Tentacool as it can take Scald with ease, block Rapid Spin, burn it with Will-O-Wisp, and wear it down with Shadow Ball. Nasty Plot variants, on the other hand, can set up on Tentacool and 2HKO it with a +2 Shadow Ball. Frillish can wall Tentacool with its Water Absorb ability and spinblock thanks to its Ghost typing, but it has to be wary of Giga Drain. Slowpoke can check Tentacool if it avoids Giga Drain and Toxic Spikes as it resists Scald and has access to STAB Psychic. Natu is another great counter as it can bounce back Toxic Spikes with its Magic Bounce ability; offensive variants can threaten Tentacool with Psyshock as well.</p>

    <p>Although it must be wary of a super effective Scald and its burn chance, Drilbur makes a good check as it can outspeed and OHKO Tentacool with STAB Earthquake. Diglett can check Tentacool too by trapping it and OHKOing with STAB Earthquake, but it absolutely cannot switch into either Scald or Giga Drain. In general, any physical attacker that carries a super effective move can muscle through Tentacool's terrible Defense.</p>


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