I was considering posting a lot in the thread, but I decided that I should "stay in character". Promise to "look into it" but instead just debate about it on IRC (and then complain about how I prefer debating in forums). I tried to frame the debate as "current hax formula" or "stronger hax formula" by putting myself on the side of "The hax formula doesn't overturn enough" so that I could debate with people who "support" it. We could easily ignore other opinions. I've found that if there are three positions, only debating one of the other two is a good way to shut down the third.