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The Dark Horse Project (HUGE Update Post #121)

Discussion in 'BW OU' started by Birkal, Feb 1, 2012.

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  1. YAYtears

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    I did it! Lucked out a bunch of people right from 1300 rating up. Winning +18 through +20 battles made it much easier.

    Pokemon Online Username:The Empoleon
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Empoleon
    Screenshot of Top 80 Ladder Ranking:
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    Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set:
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    Matthew (Empoleon) (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 156 SDef / 96 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Toxic
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam

    The set is a variant of the sub tentacruel sets and the subtran sets. It wasn't seeing much action until I faced stuff like latias or an occasional kingdra. Unoriginal people using stuff that was already tried.

    The team. May post RMT later.
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    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 180 HP / 252 SAtk / 76 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Heat Wave
    - Roost

    Breloom (F) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Poison Heal
    EVs: 236 HP / 212 SDef / 60 Spd
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Bulk Up
    - Drain Punch
    - Seed Bomb
    - Spore

    Matthew (Empoleon) (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 156 SDef / 96 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Toxic
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam

    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 HP / 212 SDef / 44 Spd
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Fire Punch
    - Iron Head
    - Body Slam
    - Wish

    Hippowdon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Fang
    - Slack Off
    - Stealth Rock

    Latios (M) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf
    - Trick
    - Psyshock

    A log Its against another dark horse team lol
    http://pokemon.aesoft.org/replay-A-Thousand-Years-vs-The-Empoleon--2012-02-11-private674277923
  2. Pocket

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    Good match - it's cool to see 2 awesome dark horse teams pitted against each other! Your Empoleon actually pulled its weight, which I'm surprised, and it complemented well with the sand. CB Stoutland was no slacker either - quite an under-appreciated mon.
  3. Lady Alex

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    Updated my original post with a RMT
  4. SlimMan

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    Imma join this now.

    PO Username: Dornier Do
    Hall of Fame Standing: ... I just noticed this project yesterday... so none
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Tangrowth/Archeops - but I have a question about this. As long as I pick one of them to never leave the team, as long as I keep one of them constant for the entire time, I am allowed to change the other, right? Cuz I haven't actually built a team yet.....
    Curent LadderStanding: ... I just made the alt... 1000
  5. Lady Alex

    Lady Alex This game sucks. Ban everything and it might not.

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    Yes, I imagine you are allowed to drop one of them but not the other if you choose to do so without restarting. If you decided to swap one of them to sign up with another dark horse pokemon, you will have to restart though.
  6. Birkal

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    You are allowed to drop one of them throughout the process, yes. You just must always have one Dark Horse Pokemon on your team from start to finish. I hope that clears things up!

    Also, I am so sorry for giving this topic such neglect; this definitely won't happen again. Time to step up the responsibility to give you guys the project that you deserve. I'm glad to see so many entries into the Hall of Fame and new participants! I'll be working today and tomorrow to get everything up to date. Thank you so much for your patience. Keep on laddering!
  7. Zoap

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    Just posting an update on my Dark Horse Pokemons, here's the info again plus the updated Ladder Standing with a pic. Overall its going extremely well and I've saved all the logs.

    Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2
    Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Froslass, Abomasnow, Poliwrath, Jynx, Mamoswine.
    Current Ladder Standing: 1116

    http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/948/1100darkhorse.jpg


    Does anyone know how to post a small like thumbnail of the image without a huge old pic showing up?
  8. Bruno Magno

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    Changing Crobat to Shaymin
  9. The Truth

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    Pokemon Online Username: Tears
    Hall of Fame Standing: None
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: ...*sees tornadus below 5%*
    Current Ladder Standing: somewhere around 1300
  10. Pidge

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    Pokemon Online Username: article
    Hall of Fame Standing: none
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Hippowdon, Deoxys-D
    Current Ladder Standing: 1032

    Since someone already got HoF with Hippowdon this month, does only Deoxys-D count?
  11. Zoap

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    Dropping Poliwrath from my roster.


    EDIT: Definitely happy with the replacement(who also is a Dark Horse but too late to add him). Made 1185 in a few games from being back down to 1080 or so.

    EDIT 2: With updated form and photo of 1200

    1000>1116>1204

    Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2
    Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Froslass, Abomasnow,Jynx, Mamoswine.
    Current Ladder Standing: 1204

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  12. Pocket

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    @ Pidge, if you are referring to YAYtears, then no, Hippowdon is still fair game, since he hasn't registered it.
  13. Texas Cloverleaf

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    Pokemon Online Username: Deepened Barrows
    Hall of Fame Standing: none
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Sceptile
    Current Ladder Standing: somewhere

    Opening a second "account"
  14. Pwnemon

    Pwnemon judges silently
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    he's referring to Pearl.

    also, @Truth, you have to start with a new alt.
  15. Ripamon

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    Pokemon Online Username - Soon to be created
    Hall of Fame Standing- None
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Blastoise
    Current Ladder Standing - 1402.( Will create a new alt at 1000)
  16. Master of the Six Kings

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    I got to 95th with Eelektross before hax capped my points. Taking a break at 1305, but i was so darn excited about making top 100 til i realized the new requirement ;(
  17. Razza

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    Name: Razza
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Azelf, cloysters
    Ladder ranking: 1361 rank 71, on alt "Razza 2.0"
    Sets:

    Azelf @ Life Orb
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Taunt
    - Stealth Rock
    - Flamethrower
    - Explosion

    Cloyster (M) @ White Herb
    Trait: Skill Link
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Icicle Spear
    - Rock Blast
    - Shell Smash
    - Razor Shell
  18. SlimMan

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    aw shit
    They deleted un-registered alts... which included mine. So I'm involuntarily starting over >_>. It sucks because I was at like 1300 too.... granted I had an exceptionally lucky streak, but hey, maybe I can replicate that. My team was functioning pretty well, so I'll probably still make it to 1350 assuming I don't go inactive again.
  19. Master of the Six Kings

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    The king of no weakness... the big bringer of THUNDER with an intense Flamethrower for those pesky industrial insectoids and the Hidden Power of ice ages unknown...Eelektross is my first entry into the Hall of Fame, coming in after a number of grueling attempts and heavy tilts, from 965 to 1352, i have a new love for the NU beast :D

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    I will see how high i get but man am i happy. I'll register a new mon tomorrow and see if i ca get two in. I used Mamoswine (a freaking beast) but didnt register him. EDIT: Nope, right back down XD Im happy though, onto the questions

    How did you choose your Dark Horse Pokemon for this project?
    I wanted something from NU that wouldn't seem like an obvious choice. I liked Rotom-W's immunity to EQ and thought Eelektross would work rather similiarly. I tried a mix set at first, but Brick Break was really lacking, and i wanted more special power. So i made him a BoltTurn core with Scizor and made him Life Orb Special monster, running Thunder to OHKO Vaporeon and Tentecruel, much to my opponent's surprise. At 1300, i found i needed to keep him alive longer and stay in more, so i actually ran Magnet over LO to preseve exsisting OHKOs and keep him around.

    How did you go about building a team for your Dark Horse Pokemon?
    I tried a stallish team with him as a big wall breaker, but found hyper offensively i could bring him in easier off of OHKOs. I set him beside Scizor and a Scarfed Infernape with great results. I found i needed a backup Rain wrecker, as Ape helped me beat Sansdtorm teams (with CC, HP Ice wreckage), Hail teams and even Sun teams, so i ran Rotom-w for water resist, killer, and Trick specialist. I had a CS Cloyster originally, allowing me to wreck Dragonite, but my lead changed into Mamoswine making Ice an overly covered type. I was also having trouble hitting faster things on the special side and not always beign able to get off a hit. Focus Sash Alakazam rounded off the spot and proved his worth with Energy Ball and the standard Psy/Ghost/Fighting coverage.

    Do you think it is more difficult or less difficult to ladder with a Dark Horse Pokemon? Why?
    Absolutely. Tross played well on the team, but he wasnt the MVP. Some things in the 3% and above range arent such a challenge, but when you gow ith a true NU, you have a lot more on the line. Tross loved dealing with "bulky" water types, Ferro/Scizor/Forretress and x4 Ice weak Ground types but Leaf Storms and Outrages just did him in, and T-Tar walled him to death. I often felt like replacing him, but the long struggle just made his shinning moments that much better. I'd say its a challenge, but a good challenge.

    (For Hall of Fame members only) How did you reach the Hall of Fame?
    Tross, adn mamo for that matter, were great Pokes to have, and they held their weight. But it was no easy measure. I spent week one tweaking at around 1100-990 and i had one heck of a jounrey out of there. The first time out of 1100, i skyrocketed to 1290 only to fall back down to exactly 1100. This is where most of the team switches occured. After that, i managed to get up to 1300 and fo between 1348 (i was soooo close!) and 1280 on Hydro Pump/Focus Blast misses, insanely bad critical hits, bad status and both (Scald crits and burns Etross, Rotom and Kazam in one game). But after a a powergouse night of predictions (garnering one extremely upset ragequit), i managed to bearly break my cap at 1352 and end up in the Hall, falling right back down in a legitimate and thoughful game. BoltBeamThrower is one amazing combination, but every single member of my team pulled off games where they swept up to 4 Pokemon with no help. Hyper Offensive for the win!
  20. -Tsunami-

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    kk well
    I'm bored and might as well do this :P

    Pokemon Online Username: -SubZer0-
    Hall of Fame Standing: None
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mightyena
    Current Ladder Standing: 1000

    guess ill try this time :P
  21. Lady Alex

    Lady Alex This game sucks. Ban everything and it might not.

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    I already made dark horse this month with dugtrio.
  22. ssbbm

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    mightyena seems pretty cool
    but im pretty gay making alts cause i suck
    Pokemon Online Username: WOLF COCK
    Hall of Fame Standing: None
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mightyena
    Current Ladder Standing: 1000
  23. Zoap

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    Updating my Dark Horse challenge, dropped Froslass for another pokemon(Dark Horse but I don't think it counts because I'm already started, kinda like my pokemon i switched in for Poliwrath) anywho so that leaves me with 3 Dark Horse left from the original team(5 still since the new people are below 5% but w/e):

    1000>1116>1204>1308

    To be honest I'm worried I'm going to tilt and its keeping me from wanting to play for extended periods. Anyway here's the updated form with a screen shot.

    Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2
    Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
    Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Abomasnow,Jynx, Mamoswine.
    Current Ladder Standing: 1308


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  24. Lady Alex

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    You just have to grit your teeth and hope for the best xD. I just ended up doing it in one sitting this time to avoid that prolonged feeling of doubt lol. The last 3 or 4 matches are the worst because you know that if you lose you're going to be set waaay back.
  25. Zoap

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    This pretty much explains how I feel right now!


    Lol that outta the way, I made 1364(Rank 63 on OU Ladder) which means Hall of Fame!

    Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2
    Dark Horse Pokemon: Abomasnow, Jynx, Mamoswine
    Screenshot of Top 80 Ladder Ranking:
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    Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set:

    Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Snow Warning
    EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Protect
    - Leech Seed
    - Seed Bomb
    - Ice Shard


    Jynx (F) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Dry Skin
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Lovely Kiss
    - Psychic
    - Blizzard
    - Grass Knot

    Mamoswine (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Snow Cloak
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Ice Shard
    - Icicle Crash
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock


    Hitmontop (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Mach Punch
    - Sucker Punch
    - Close Combat


    Magnezone @ Leftovers
    Trait: Magnet Pull
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flash Cannon
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Substitute


    Yanmega (F) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Speed Boost
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Air Slash
    - Bug Buzz
    - Giga Drain
    - Shadow Ball


    I know I was only required to list my Dark Horse Pokemon but I figured I'd list the whole team. Hitmontop was my replacement for Poliwrath(he sits at 76 on OU Stats list or 1.5%) and I replaced Frolass with Yanmega(he sits at 118 at .575%), meaning that although I don't get credit for them, my team consisted of 5/6 Dark Horse Pokemon!

    I'll continue laddering, but I feel I'll probably tilt now because I no longer really have anything at stake XD. I'll upload all of the battle logs I have in an edit to this post(there are a lot be warned!), as well as maybe a RMT if I feel like writing one up.

    I'll also edit in those questions with my answers from the 3rd post.

    Thanks Lady Alex, I took your advice and powered through(turns out I just needed to win 4 matches, but I did it 4 in a row!), without you I probably woulda just went like 1-2 matches a day lol.
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