The King of the Hill - Round 1

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The.Lost.Hylian

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Warthog said:
Rambotuff over comes Dodrio!

Wigglytuff (M) @ Leftovers ** Rambotuff
Trait: Cute Charm
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter
- Ice Beam
- Reflect
- Snatch

she subs first turn while I use Reflect. I break the Sub with IceBeam next turn while she uses Hidden Power. I then use Snatch to steal her Sub, while I Ice Beam two turns to take down Dodrio.
Warthog I love you <3
 
Vineon said:
no hidden power, are you fucking kidding me :[
we were discussing this.. what is the fun of this tournament if we can't use new strategies :[ and what if I am against a pokemon I have no movepool against (see houndoom vs tentacruel for example).. but 0nion can't change it now so :sad:
 
okay I spent 6 hours working out the perfect set (no really) and now I have to rethink everything... but I understand it's difficult for you to make everyone happy x.x

Edit: Not complaining though, it won't take me as long to redo everything--to elaborate, with Hidden Power Flying we both do a whole lot of damage to the other very quickly. =)

Edit: Okay, I'm ready with my set. Veteran in Love, PM me when you read this, and we can find a time to battle.
 
Wow, I really miscalculated... well, in the end I did have a 69.32% chance of winning, but the damage range was high and Reversal took me out. =) Edit: But the strategy I was banking on would have given me just below a 50% chance of winning, /if/ VIL used Counter, but I was counting on how not wasting as much time as me on this, which he didn't. Good game, Veteran in Love! So, do people who lose stay out of the tourney, or how does this ranking system work?
 
onion said:
Cless - Jynx ...................................180Roger - Gengar

jynx can do this, with, endure,psychic, and lk

Vineon - Farfetch'd...........................peter_pan - Sneasel

HP: fighting is standard, so farfetch'd has a chance, with def evs of course.

Altmer - Butterfree...........................hipmonlee - Parasect

butterfree @lum or even CB wins this =/

Jshadias - Dusclops..........................zfs - Typhlosion

CB quake ftw

Cerberus - Hariyama.........................justin4689 - Kangaskhan

this could go either way, I'm thinking kanga loses, but, both get counter

Alper - Furret..................................O_o - Machamp

if this is legal:
assist, with the rest of you team being smeargle's with spore
or rev

Steelicks - Steelix.............................RiptideFugitive - Smeargle

this is all in the prediction, whether smeargle spores first or later, or uses hydro cannon!

Lesm46 - Pidgeot..............................kholdstaire - Sceptile

this is all in the prediction as well, whether pidgeot is cb and sceptile is @ salac, or if pidgeot is salac'ed and sceptile has def evs =/

Hill - Raichu.....................................Raikou21 - Raikou
CB raikou wins

Kikuichimonji - Crobat........................Windu - Scyther

Hempman - Swampert........................chaos - Tyranitar (not definitive)

depends on perts def stats, and which stat chaos decides to attack with though screech looks pretty ftw here

Articuno64 - Articuno.........................Doomsday - Houndoom

I"d say articuno has this, rest/toxic/light screen/ protect

Redwall - Tauros...............................Nitrous - Skarmory

tauros used fire blast!

magicalmaster2001 - Feraligatr............Eagle - Lapras

lapras I'd say, though its def stat matters quite a bit

Cloud - Magmar................................Cookirby - Electabuzz

magmar could easily do something clever with a low SpDef stat and petaya berry and fireblast, or lack of speed, lots of SpDef, and fire blast, or CB'ing, etc.

Aelous - Venusaur.............................NZ-1337 - Alakazam
Venu wins easily

luiton2005 - Flygon............................skarm - Aerodactyl

meh, aero wins
rest, sub, protect, return @ chesto and pressure of course


Dan Dan - Porygon2...........................origin - misdreavus
I'd say p2 but, missyD could win aswell


Omni - Azumarril................................ToP - electrode

Fuzion - Fearow.................................Fog - rhydon
lol that sucks

Glalie - Slowbro................................. Anyone - wailord
fm - Lickitung....................................drunkpriest - blaziken
infected - moltres..............................blaze8 - salamence
this also comes down to prediction, between sub and endure =/
 

Hill

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gg man. I tried to overpredict in team building and that costed me the battle.
 

The.Lost.Hylian

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Not that it matters, but I find Hidden Power to be "cheating" in a way, since this tournament is to get people to figure new strategies and everyone is going to rely on Hidden Power instead of actually trying something else :(
 
Though I'm not in the tourney, I agree that nonstabbed HPs are gay for this type of thing. Look at the hempman vs chaos, as long as swampert has choice band, some spec def and speed, hp fighting will ohko t-tar.

Lots more examples like this, too lazy to list them.

--- Psych
 
The problem is if you have a blanket "no un-STAB HP" clause, Pokemon like Swellow and Magneton have no chance against Rock and Ground types. It's not like it's something they wouldn't be using in standard.

On a side note, there are a lot of cases where primary STAB would do more than SE HP, like Dodrio on normal types.
 

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psychup2034 said:
Though I'm not in the tourney, I agree that nonstabbed HPs are gay for this type of thing. Look at the hempman vs chaos, as long as swampert has choice band, some spec def and speed, hp fighting will ohko t-tar.

Lots more examples like this, too lazy to list them.

--- Psych
Earthquake does more damage than HP Fighting...
 
Mekkah said:
Steelicks - Steelix.............................RiptideFugitiv e - Smeargle

Smeargle used Spore. Steelix used Sleep Talk. Steelix wins.
Also Smeargle used Taunt, Smeargle used Spore, Smeargle used Nightmare, Smeargle used Leech Seed. Smeargle wins.
 
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