Note: I do realize that there's an official discussion thread about HG/SS Competitive Battles, but I believe that this topic deserves its own thread for the importance and uniqueness of this move. ___________________________________________ With the release of Heart Gold and Soul Silver on Sept. 12, there's no doubt that one of the moves that has been eternally submerged in shadows now has a chance to rise to power. Previous to the releases of these two games, the move Super Fang was only available to these three Pokemon (with the exception of Smeargle, who can run much better sets): Raticate Pachirisu Bibarel And all three of them are in the NU tier. All of these three Pokemon have very mediocre-to-abysmal stats, especially defensively, and cannot take many hits before they will faint. Also, with the exception of Raticate's Crunch, neither of the other two Pokemon has a particular good way of hitting Ghost types. None of these three Pokemon have a base speed of 100 or over, and none can hit very hard otherwise, unless previously boosted. Now, on September 12, these all changed, since the HG/SS, there is a tutor that can teach certain Pokemon the move Super Fang, and here is a list of Pokemon who can learn it (thanks to RB Golbat for the list): Listing Fully-Evolved Pokemon Only (Pokemon with Base Speed 100 or higher have a * next to their names): Raticate Sandslash Nidoqueen Nidoking Mew* Furret Crobat* Granbull Houndoom Mightyena Linoone* Mawile Sharpedo Glalie Walrein Huntail Bibarel Pachirisu Purugly* Toxicroak It is quite obvious that Super Fang has the potential to bring a very solid Pokemon into KO-zone easily, and bring weaker Pokemon into KO-zone by priority moves. Furthermore, many of these Pokemon that can learn Super Fang also have access to at least 1 priority move: Nidoqueen - Sucker Punch Nidoking - Sucker Punch Mew - Sucker Punch, Vacuum Wave Furret - Quick Attack (STAB), Sucker Punch Houndoom - Sucker Punch (STAB) Mightyena - Sucker Punch (STAB) Linoone - ExtremeSpeed (STAB) Mawile - Sucker Punch Sharpedo - Aqua Jet (STAB) Glalie - Ice Shard (STAB) Bibarel - Quick Attack (STAB) Pachirisu - Quick Attack Purugly - Fake Out (STAB), Quick Attack (STAB), Sucker Punch Toxicroak - Sucker Punch, Vacuum Wave (STAB) Then, there are 2 Pokemon that can induce Sleep, which can be very useful with Sleep + Super Fang combo to take a nice chunk of HP off any Pokemon or any switches (non-Ghost): Crobat - Hypnosis Purugly - Hypnosis Neither of these two Pokemon have a really accurate sleep-inducing move but they nonetheless remain an option to pair up with their amazing speed. Lastly, Super Fang + U-Turn can also be a considerable option. Note that I did not include Smeargle in this thread since everybody know that Smeargle can learn all moves besides Chatter. Sharpedo, Houndoom, and Mightyena worth a special mention as they have STAB moves that can hit Super Effective on Ghosts, a type of Pokemon which Super Fang does not affect. All three of those Pokemon have a decent Attack or Special Attack, useful Speed and at least 1 Priority move. And Crobat... Combo with Brine: With many Water types having Swift Swim, and Brine widely available as a TM, Super Fang can be easily used to cut off the HP first, then a fast swimmer in rain can quickly come and Brine away. Even if it's not in rain, any Briners can take this advantage since the opponent's HP has been cut by Super Fang. Sharpedo has both Super Fang, priority, STAB Brine and a move to hurt Ghost types while Toxicroak can benefit from rain with Dry Skin ability. Huntail (with Swift Swim) in rain can throw out a STAB Rain-Boosted, fast Brine after a Super Fang with 94 base SpA, which is wonderful. Stealth Rocks are needed to ensure 130 Base Power Brine or Leftovers can easily screw over the idea. _______________________________________________ Walrein: Not only it has Super Fang now but also Aqua Ring... I don't think you can kill that thing without toxic-poisoning it somehow... The main purpose of this thread is to discuss all the different possibilities and uses with this move, since people aren't used to create movesets and EV's for certain Pokemon dedicated for a special move such as this. This may also be a good place to find other moves that can combo easily with Super Fang to make the move or the Pokemon's moveset much more effective in today's metagame. P.S. Heatran learns Bug Bite now... WTF?