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The NU Throwdown Round 4 - Semi-Finals!

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi Tournaments' started by Supe, Dec 28, 2009.

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  1. Supe

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    [​IMG]The NU Throwdown![​IMG]
    Semi-Finals
    *Approved by Jimbo*



    The deadline for Round 4 is Sunday, January 2nd at 11:59 pm Pacific Standard Time (GMT -8)


    RULES

    Single Elimination

    HG/SS moves are allowed


    Team changes are allowed between rounds

    No Hacks
    - Not even legit hacks. The point of wifi tourneys is to encourage trading in the wifi forum!

    Sleep Clause - You may only put one of your opponent's pokemon to sleep at a time. If your opponent used Rest or if Effect Spore causes sleep, that does not count.

    Species Clause - No 2+ of the same Pokemon per team. Example: 2 Medichams are on your team.

    Hax Items Clause - The items Bright Powder, Focus Band, Quick Claw, King's Rock, Razor Fang, Scope Lens, and Razor Claw are banned.

    Evasion Clause - The moves Double Team and Minimize are banned.

    OHKO Clause
    - The moves Horn Drill, Sheer Cold, Guillotine, and Fissure are banned.

    Self KO Clause
    - You cannot use Selfdestruct, Explosion, or Destiny Bond if you are down to your last Pokemon.


    Prizes


    • The winner will get redistribution rights to any 3 pokemon for which I am the OT from my thread.

    • September has donated any 3 pokemon from this post.

    • Age of Kings has donated any 3 pokemon from this post.

    • The Lost One has donated the following:
    Victreebel
    Lonely - Chlorophyll
    28/30/30/31/
    15/31 HP ICE 69
    Hatched on Route 34
    UT HGSS Egg Move: Weather Ball
    !

    Shiny Victreebel
    ♂ Lonely - Chlorophyll
    31/30/31/30/31/30 Fire 70
    Hatched on Floaroma Meadow.
    Egg Moves: Worry Seed.

    Tier Lists


    We will be using the October NU and NFE Tiers from the Smogon Strategy Dex. The new usage stats came out and UU shifted a bit, so just in case anything changes on the site, here is a list of the pokemon allowed:

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     [B][U]NU Tier[/U][/B]
    
      Ampharos
      Arbok
      Ariados
      Armaldo
      Articuno
      Bannette
      Bastiodon
      Beautifly
      Beedrill
      Bellossom
      Bibarel
      Butterfree
      Cacturne
      Camerupt
      Carnivine
      Castform
      Charizard
      Chatot
      Cherrim
      Chimecho
      Clamperl
      Cloyster
      Corsola
      Cradily
      Crawdaunt
      Delcatty
      Delibird
      Dewgong
      Ditto
      Dodrio
      Dunsparce
      Dustox
      Entei
      Exeggutor
      Exploud
      Farfetch’d
      Fearow
      Flareon
      Floatzel
      Furret
      Gastrodon
      Girafarig
      Glaceon
      Glalie
      Golduck
      Golem
      Gorebyss
      Granbull
      Grumpig
      Hitmonchan
      Huntail
      Hypno
      Illumise
      Jumpluff
      Jynx
      Kangaskhan
      Kecleon
      Kingler
      Kricketune
      Lapras
      Leafeon
      Ledian
      Lickilicky
      Linoone
      Lopunny
      Lumineon
      Lunatone
      Luvdisc
      Luxray
      Magcargo
      Magmortar
      Manectric
      Mantine
      Marowak
      Masquerain
      Mawile
      Medicham
      Meganium
      Mightyena
      Minum
      Mothim
      Mr. Mime
      Muk
      Nidoqueen
      Ninetales
      Noctowl
      Octillery
      Pachirisu
      Parasect
      Pelipper
      Persian
      Phione
      Pidgeot
      Pikachu
      Pinsir
      Plusle
      Politoed
      Poliwrath
      Porygon2
      Primeape
      Probopass
      Purugly
      Quagsire
      Quilfish
      Raichu
      Rampardos
      Rapidash
      Raticate
      Regice
      Regigigas
      Relicanth
      Sableye
      Sandslash
      Seaking
      Seviper
      Sharpedo
      Shedinja
      Shiftry
      Shuckle
      Skuntank
      Slaking
      Slowking
      Solrock
      Spinda
      Stantler
      Sudowoodo
      Sunflora
      Swalot
      Tauros
      Torkoal
      Trapinch
      Tropius
      Unown
      Ursaring
      Venomoth
      Vespiqueen
      Victreebel
      Vigoroth
      Vileplume
      Volbeat
      Wailord
      Walrein
      Whiscash
      Wigglytuff
      Wormadam
      Wormadam-G
      Wormadam-S
      Xatu
      Zangoose
    
    Not Fully Evolved pokemon are also allowed, so here is a link to the NFE pokedex:

    The NFE Tier


    *Please note that the following NFE Pokemon are in UU and therefore banned:

    • Magneton
    • Chansey
    • Scyther



    The Matchups


    September vs for54years
    Bojan vs negator


    Get in contact with your opponent as soon as possible and get those matches done!
  2. Bojan

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    Uhuh, a Italian Match vs Negator.
  3. Negator

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    HOLY GOD!!!!


    ok Bojan, are you ready to battle?
  4. Bojan

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    Ok, but let's talk in PM
  5. Negator

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    ok, seems I can connect to wi-fi again, so I can be up for it, just sent you a pm


    Edit:
    TO SUPE


    We menaged to start up our match, but sadly we got D/Ced, we appurated that it wasn't nobody's fault, but, sadly, we couldn't start the match again with same move, because we had already had some little stall wars, which can't now change, also, we came down to see at least 3 (and 4) pkm of each other team, knowing almost full set of them as well, thus, we decided that a re match with said team isn't possible.

    Clayming a winner from those information isn't possible either:
    he lost two pkm,
    I lost one and one was greatly weakned,
    he had rocks up, but it's rocker was gone,
    I still had my spinner hidden, and plenty of wish pass to heal up the weakned pkm if I predicted right;

    He was way more aggressive than me though, but both of us still had 2 hidden pkm.

    I suggested to play again with different teams, but now another problem raises:
    I've back up teams, but Bojan doesn't, so, I'll wait for YOUR decision about what to do! (other match with other teams, coin flip, or what ever).
  6. Bojan

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    Confirm.
  7. for54years

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    September and I have VM'd, and will get our match underway later today.
  8. Supe

    Supe would you suck the poison out

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    Hm, seeing as how it is only the first day of the round, I think you guys should try it again with different teams. I'm sure Bojan can put together something within the week. Let me know what you guys think.
  9. Negator

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    I would agree, but we need his opinion, he may have trouble getting the pkm in time maybe.
  10. Dan Dan

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    What about a best of three with the original teams? I think making both sides use a team they may not be entirely familiar with a bit harsh on both players.
  11. Supe

    Supe would you suck the poison out

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    Yea, I sent him a PM. Let's see what he says.

    A whole week to build a team isn't that harsh imo. Either way, best 2 of 3 might work. Lets just wait to see what Bojan thinks.
  12. Negator

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    the last option is silly for me...
    splitting a stall team in half or even less isn't going to work any time soon...
  13. Supe

    Supe would you suck the poison out

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    What? Splitting the team? He meant to have 3 battles. The first to win 2 battles advances.

    If push comes to shove, and Bojan cannot collect the pokemon for a new team, there's always shoddy as a last resort.

    EDIT: I can't believe you guys are using stall over wifi! if it works it works tho! =P
  14. Negator

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    I see I see, that would be funny, now I understand it xD
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    I lost to for54years becuase of a stupid hax at the end :(
  16. Syberia

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    If you're going to be such a stickler for the rules to DQ Lexite, you should DQ him for not being able to battle as well.
  17. for54years

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    Confirming, but come on, there were hax on both sides! GG
  18. Ditto

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    Well Bojan is being forced to play under new circumstances. He came in with a specific team and may not have that many other pokemon, yet they are saying he must now make a new team to play Negator.
  19. Syberia

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    And Lexite had the specific circumstance of being stranded at her parents without internet, a fact she made her opponent aware of by PM at the beginning of the round. It just seems extremely hypocritical when you say "it's the forum rules" in order to DQ someone, then make all sorts of exceptions for someone else. I mean, it's fucking Christmas for christ's sake, you can reasonably expect people to be out of town.
  20. Komodo

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    Well, not trying to be biased in saying this, Lexite shouldn't have entered the tournament then, this was mentioned on the sign up thread:

  21. Lexite

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    I had sunday to play. I was waiting online on sunday but I didnt know he lived in Europe.
  22. Syberia

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    And if Supe was going to be that needlessly strict with the rules, perhaps he should not have started a tournament that goes straight through Christmas.
  23. Supe

    Supe would you suck the poison out

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    It's the first day of the round and I am in contact with both of them via PM. They still have all week. Also, they are both present, have both posted to acknowledge the start of the round, and are both capable of getting it done.

    Perhaps, I shouldn't have. But I did. And it was approved by a tourney mod. Aaaaand I addressed the fact that it would go through the holidays before it even started.

    Like I'm telling Lexite on IRC:


    • Last round, Lexite posted for the first time 6 hours prior to end of deadline.
    • Lexite did not post or make it clear (to me or anyone looking through the thread) that she would be away all week. She knew she'd be gone but did not say anything ahead of time.
    • I mentioned in sign-ups that being away for the holidays was not going to fly as an excuse.
    • Bojan posted several times in the thread with updates on his PMs with Lexite.
    • Lexite did send Bojan a PM saying she would be available on Saturday, but she did not come online that day.
    • She sent him another PM saying Sunday, but Bojan did not confirm.
    • By the time Lexite got home on Sunday night, it was midnight in Bojan's time zone. Although she was ready to go at 6pm PST, before the end of deadline, it's unreasonable to expect Bojan to stay up past midnight on the last day of the round after he has been ready and waiting all week.
    From what I can see Bojan was the more available and active player throughout the round, so he gets to advance.

    On a more personal note:

    I consider you and Lexite to be some of the best friends I've made on this forum. I have to be objective about it though, and I'm sorry but I can't let our friendship affect the way I'm gonna run the tourney. Bottom line is that if SHE had specific time constraints, then SHE needed to communicate them ahead of time so that we could have made adjustments. It doesn't matter where she was at, showing up at the 11th hour just to say "I'm here" doesn't justify a 6 day absence.
  24. Negator

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    We battled just few minutes ago over shoddy, and I won after a well played and close match,

    GG Bojan!
  25. Bojan

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    GG Negator ;)

    If only I had used the Trick Room that made me win the rematch XD...
    Well, losing in the semifinal in my first tournament here is a good result for me
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