can we stop with the steelix please? it's a terrible excuse for a wall these days, skarmory outclasses it in almost every way imaginable. skarm has hazards, better phazing, better typing, better stats, and instant recovery to boot. steelix has what? an electric immunity? great, but every electric type in the game right now carries something to hit steelix hard with, minus maybe jolteon who isn't a big deal anyways...and being able to ohko gengar and aerodactyl, two incredibly weak pokemon, after investing over 130 evs in attack isn't a big deal, stop flaunting it like it is. look at like every single common physical threat these days, stuff like terrakion, garchomp, breloom, and lucario. every single one of them fails to hit skarmory for se damage (except fblast chomp which isn't that common) and every single one of them hits steelix super-effectively with their main stab attack. it stands to reason that if the physical wall you're marketing crumbles to the four most common physical attackers in the game, it isn't a great physical wall.