I agree with both of these. Tornadus-T is indeed a powerful Pokemon, but he is easily countered by both Rotom-W and Jirachi, and checked by Mamoswine and Jolteon. This is enough to keep Tornadus-T in A-Tier. Ninetales is nowhere near S Material. She does summon a powerful weather that suddenly makes Venusaur and Volcarona into monsters. But take this into consideration: Ninetales does not provide the offensive or defensive synergy with any of the team at all. This in turn makes Ninetales a liability, not a threat. She also loses to Politoed, Tyranitar, and Hippowdon, and as a result, she needs heavy team support to help her keep her sun up. This keeps Ninetales in A-Tier. And since we're also doing lower tier mons, I would like to nominate Scrafty for C-Tier. As Much as I like it, the metagame is really against Scrafty. Tornadus-T can outspeed and kill (but can't switch into an Ice Punch), while Rachi can cripple it. He's also slow and weak before a boost. Nonetheless, the DD set is incredibly deadly in the right conditions thanks to perfect coverage and Moxie, while the Bulk Up set is hard to take down. Scrafty for C-Tier. I'd also like to nominate Stoutland for C-Tier. Thanks to Sand Rush, Stoutland becomes an amazing revenge killer in sand. He has overall excellent coverage, good bulk to work with, and excellent speed in Sand. A Choice Band gives it much needed firepower, while his bulk means he's not going down in one neutral hit. However, he is heavily dependent on Sand from Ttar or Hippo, outside of it, he's as normal a Normal-type (Pun Intended) as you can get. It is also worth mentioning that Normal STAB is not the best thing to have. He is also weak to Mach Punch, so Breloom with SD can put him in a risky situation. Nonetheless, given support from Ttar/Hippo as well as others in the sand, Stoutland can be very good, and this is enough to put Stoutland in C-Tier. EDIT: Another reason to keep Torn-T in A-Tier is the fact that rain is his life and blood. Without it, he's an almost nonexistant threat.