The Outsiders Challenge
Hosted by Harsha. Original thread is located here. Art by Fatecrashers.
Introduction
Many of you probably have seen the original Outsiders Challenge, but for those who do not know the purpose behind it, it's actually fairly simple. This challenge is hosted to determine what strategies that aren't used too often are effective, as well as who are the best ladder players. Last time, players McMeghan, ShakeItUp, MetaGross666, Lady Alex, Xanderpitz, Bloo, and mostwanted were all able to overcome the adversity provided by the strict guidelines and achieve high ratings, with over 1400 points on the Smogon University Pokemon Online ladder. With the switch into Pokemon Showdown!, as well as the switch to BW2, we can take another look at this challenge!
Rules
Discussion
After completing the challenge, here are some questions you should think about!
Hall of Fame
[1950]
Hosted by Harsha. Original thread is located here. Art by Fatecrashers.
Introduction
Many of you probably have seen the original Outsiders Challenge, but for those who do not know the purpose behind it, it's actually fairly simple. This challenge is hosted to determine what strategies that aren't used too often are effective, as well as who are the best ladder players. Last time, players McMeghan, ShakeItUp, MetaGross666, Lady Alex, Xanderpitz, Bloo, and mostwanted were all able to overcome the adversity provided by the strict guidelines and achieve high ratings, with over 1400 points on the Smogon University Pokemon Online ladder. With the switch into Pokemon Showdown!, as well as the switch to BW2, we can take another look at this challenge!
Rules
- The following Pokemon are banned:
- Politoed
- Scizor
- Ferrothorn
- Dragonite
- Heatran
- Tyranitar
- Jirachi
- Gliscor
- Breloom
- Starmie
- Additionally, the Pokemon Genesect, Tornadus-T, and Thundurus-T have been banned for this challenge.
- You must start with a fresh alt when entering this challenge.
- Once you reach a rating of 1850, you are eligible for the Hall of Fame! Simply post your peak (screenshots, please) and the team you used, and answer a few discussion questions.
- Please don't cheat. We know it's tempting to cheat for glory in a Pokemon challenge, but really, I promise it's not worth it. If you're going to use banned Pokemon in this challenge, why did you even sign up?
Sign-upsName: Harsha
Alt: harsha2014
Ladder standing: None yet!
-Rockstar- - Rockstar
1996ito - Don Juan
Articblast - Articblast
Asch - Flash Kick
Asterat - turdz
Audiosurgfer - Magileine
AuraRayquaza - aruA
Bl1tzkri3g - Lightning Outside
BlueAquaRabbit - Mordin Solus
chaos 9 - Peace is Here
CHENN - cheen challenge
Chimpakt - champact - [1850] - Discussion Questions
Dark Nikuman - Whistle Baby
DarkBlazeR - Loveless
DEMo_Gorgon47 - DEMo_Gorgon47
DrunkDemon - DHC
erratic - halcyon
franci - jellytothemax
G-Von - G-Von OC
ganj4lF - EvilGrin02 - [1850] - Discussion Questions
ginganinja - We All Love Birkal
Grape Drink 2.0 - Hypocrite
Hot N Cold - Altagracia Loreal
Jeppeapaan - Fix ladder
Jets - toasted cheese
Jimbon - summersalt
Jobriq - TunakTunakTaco - [1950] - Discussion Questions
Joeyboy - Loose Seal
JoshuaMunoz - Ditto 1
Lavos Spawn - oven mitts - [1900] - Discussion Questions
LucaroarkZ - not your avg user
Magma - Magmarizer
Master of the Six Kings - Kingdon of Sixes
Me So Shiny - Gettin it
MysticNova - Memories
newguy2 - destroyer002
NATdude - Krakenlover
PDC - euthanasia
Peache - peach
Phazon00 - Inferno Titan
pieguy13 - pieguy1313
Pocket - PockOut
Pokelol - ZePokelolz
Princess Bri - lavos sux d
Sayonara - Aura
senegal - tunisia - [1950] - Discussion Questions
ShakeItUp - Novae_Rogue
Shining Latios - Royal Flush
Shuckler - Radommon
Sork - Burungeru
SuperChillarmy - ChuperShillarmy
The Great Mighty Doom - Kasugami - [1850] / Kuni - [1900] - Discussion Questions
The QWAZ - Qwaz
The Unlucky one - ITS MAHVEL BABY
ThePillsburyDoughBoy - DoughBoy DH2
toshimelonhead - t_oshi
TropiOUs - -MLG-Trop
tytoandnoob - tytoandnoob
UltiMario - AltiMario
undisputed - dancing dragons
XKnightX - Unfaithful - [1850] - Discussion Questions
1996ito - Don Juan
Articblast - Articblast
Asch - Flash Kick
Asterat - turdz
Audiosurgfer - Magileine
AuraRayquaza - aruA
Bl1tzkri3g - Lightning Outside
BlueAquaRabbit - Mordin Solus
chaos 9 - Peace is Here
CHENN - cheen challenge
Chimpakt - champact - [1850] - Discussion Questions
Dark Nikuman - Whistle Baby
DarkBlazeR - Loveless
DEMo_Gorgon47 - DEMo_Gorgon47
DrunkDemon - DHC
erratic - halcyon
franci - jellytothemax
G-Von - G-Von OC
ganj4lF - EvilGrin02 - [1850] - Discussion Questions
ginganinja - We All Love Birkal
Grape Drink 2.0 - Hypocrite
Hot N Cold - Altagracia Loreal
Jeppeapaan - Fix ladder
Jets - toasted cheese
Jimbon - summersalt
Jobriq - TunakTunakTaco - [1950] - Discussion Questions
Joeyboy - Loose Seal
JoshuaMunoz - Ditto 1
Lavos Spawn - oven mitts - [1900] - Discussion Questions
LucaroarkZ - not your avg user
Magma - Magmarizer
Master of the Six Kings - Kingdon of Sixes
Me So Shiny - Gettin it
MysticNova - Memories
newguy2 - destroyer002
NATdude - Krakenlover
PDC - euthanasia
Peache - peach
Phazon00 - Inferno Titan
pieguy13 - pieguy1313
Pocket - PockOut
Pokelol - ZePokelolz
Princess Bri - lavos sux d
Sayonara - Aura
senegal - tunisia - [1950] - Discussion Questions
ShakeItUp - Novae_Rogue
Shining Latios - Royal Flush
Shuckler - Radommon
Sork - Burungeru
SuperChillarmy - ChuperShillarmy
The Great Mighty Doom - Kasugami - [1850] / Kuni - [1900] - Discussion Questions
The QWAZ - Qwaz
The Unlucky one - ITS MAHVEL BABY
ThePillsburyDoughBoy - DoughBoy DH2
toshimelonhead - t_oshi
TropiOUs - -MLG-Trop
tytoandnoob - tytoandnoob
UltiMario - AltiMario
undisputed - dancing dragons
XKnightX - Unfaithful - [1850] - Discussion Questions
Discussion
After completing the challenge, here are some questions you should think about!
- What did you think was the biggest challenge when not being allowed to use any of the restricted Pokemon? Was it overcomeable?
- How did you feel the challenge tested your metagame skill? Did it make playing much harder, or were you still able to leaderboard with relative ease.
- What is your opinion on how overpowered the Pokemon that you were not allowed to use, but were required to face? Were they too strong to deal with, are there metagame shifts you would consider to correct this? Please don't derail the thread with a constant debate over this point, only reply once you've won!
- What team style did you use, and how did it fare against the metagame? Were there team styles you couldn't beat? (As an aside, please share your team with an importable! It'll be fun to disect those, and you may even be featured in a Smog article!)
- What is your personal opinion on this challenge?
Hall of Fame
[1950]
- senegal - tunisia - 1966 -
"I think what Im appreciating most from this challenge is the difference between pkmn with niche roles and those with much broader responsibilities." - Jobriq - TunakTunakTaco - 1961 -
"I used a full stall Hail team with the deceptively bulky SubRoost Kyurem to pressure stall those troublesome high power moves that often come with a measley 8 pp, and also to blast things with its deadly Blizzard."
- The Great Mighty Doom - Kuni - 1941 -
"I used a Bulky Offense Sand team based around a Stoutland sweep, utilizing Specs Magnezone to take out the steel types that resist Stoutland's STAB. It fared pretty great against the metagame and no particular playstyle caused any major issues." - Lavos Spawn - oven mitts - 1927 -
"Playing wasn't especially difficult, because I feel like I came up with a team that really compensated for the bans by utilizing some underrated threats."
- ganj4lf - EvilGrin02 - 1879
- Chimpakt - Champact - 1852
- XKnightX - Unfaithful - 1850