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The Outsiders Challenge

Discussion in 'BW OU' started by Harsha, Apr 3, 2012.

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  1. Harsha

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    The Outsiders Challenge
    By Harsha. Inspired by the Dark Horse Project. Image by Fatecrashers.

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    Introduction & Rules
    We should all know that our BW OU tier is dominated by strategies such as sand and rain abuse, as well as deadly VoltTurn teams. However, that's not necessarily all there is to this beautiful and diverse tier! In an effort to liven up OU and add a bit of diversity, I thought a fun challenge would be worthwhile! First, let's take a look at the top 10 Pokemon in the 1337 usage statistics.
    1. Tyranitar
    2. Scizor
    3. Politoed
    4. Rotom-W
    5. Dragonite
    6. Heatran
    7. Jirachi
    8. Terrakion
    9. Landorus
    10. Celebi
    Many of us should know these Pokemon very well already, and why wouldn't we? We see them everywhere. Well, this is where the challenge comes into play. For one month, The Outsiders Challenge will take place. In this challenge, you will be laddering on Pokemon Online's Smogon University server with a team of 6 Pokemon, and none of them may be in the top 10 of the 1337 usage statistics (that is, those listed above). Keep in mind that this outlaws the use of Tyranitar's Sand Stream and Politoed's Drizzle. Of course, this is by no means an impossible task, just a way to recognize those Pokemon that are in the lower rungs of OU. Additionally, when one breaks 1400, they will be prompted to post a screenshot of their laddering achievement. This is not only to prove that creativity is not dead, but it is also a chance to showcase your laddering skills!

    Rules (Part 2)
    Okay so we're not done with the rules yet, sorry! Before you hit the ladder with your amazing team, I would love it if you could please fill out a form to help us keep track of your laddering escapades!
    This is to help me keep track of our current leaders! Updating your standing after peaking is usually a good idea, and taking screenshots frequently after getting high on the ladder is also recommended. After achieving a qualifying ranking (1400+), post here with your screenshot and an importable of your team so we can see what ways you are using to be creative! By the way, you must start a new laddering alt for each team you make, and you must start with an alt of 1000 points or lower. Remember, this is supposed to be fun and challenging, and cheating is no way to promote that!

    Now, some tips for discussion:
    • Feel free to post an importable of your team and point out weaknesses to see how people would go about fixing them. However, this is not the build-me-a-team project! You should be trying to be as self-sufficient as possible!

    • Feel free to discuss current trends in the metagame and good Pokemon that readily combat them! This will help others that are attempting the challenge and can help in promoting diversity!

    • Try and be helpful when addressing other people's problems! You would want help when you hit a rut, wouldn't you?
    And that's all folks! Feel free to sign up, and good luck!

    Participants (open)
    Skyshayde - Materialist
    The QWAZ - finlay
    McMeghan - McPollo - [1500+] - McMeghan's Discussion
    ToF - hate on itttt
    Furai - Brute
    ginganinja - Outsider
    HiipFire - imdabes
    MetaGross66 - Pokmi - [1400-1449] - MetaGross66's Discussion
    Omicron - TaiYang
    Tomahawk9 - The Notorious SMALL
    I AM BATMAN LOL - I AM THE META
    toshimelonhead - toshioutsider
    Karpman - Fake spit
    Marble101 - AnataNoHaha
    bubbly - angryredballoon
    AOPSUser - Pokii
    corYBird - cornbird
    XcRunner - Lillisun
    Mafeking - IncredibleMisfit
    winterpetrel - winterpetrel_outside
    Tyranitarphantom - Ttar Ph.D Too Pro
    ThePillsburyDoughBoy - DFP
    davjoemama - the outsider
    DrunkDemon - Electric Feel
    nyttyn - [PR]NyttyN
    Ossy - Haxachi
    ExaltedRequiem - N9NE
    Ningildo - FU STALL
    ssbbm - OK FUCK U
    Wobbanaut - WobbanauterDH
    czechm8 - Czechm8Alt
    Xanderpitz - Xanderpitz2 - [1400-1449] - Xanderpitz's Discussion
    Lady Alex - Ocean of Hourai - [1400-1449] - Lady Alex's Discussion
    Lady Alex - Gensokyo
    Zoap - Jesus and Pals
    ShakeItUp - -TheEnd- - [1450-1499] - ShakeItUp's Discussion
    NoJohns - What Is Love
    EdenDC - HM02
    MrCookie - SirSpiketrap101
    HoiPolloi - Wackelpeter
    sandshrewz - sandz
    Plusle - Lanturn.
    LizardMan - Saphir - [1400-1449]
    Lucario_Guy - Rukario-kun
    Darkstar - Netro104
    Novaray - Benelux V.20
    Temptation - Izgubljeno
    Vemane - MikeOutsiders
    Xanderpitz - Xanderpitz3
    Keiran - .Keiran.
    LockDown - amph48
    1996ITO - North Havenbrook
    Mamo.Pert - Dark Stall
    D.Gray Man - Too cool for school
    undisputed - Robinson Cano
    Zeo Abyss - Roxas
    BurningMan - BurningOutsiders
    Expert Physics - Kira Light
    mostwanted - Violent_Nights - [1500+]
    Bloo - Violent Nights - [1500+]
    FastFlygon - Princess of China

    Winners of the Outsiders Challenge!

    1500+ Points:

    • McMeghan [[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]] (McPollo - 1505) Sand Stall
    "Gliscor is a beast in the current metagame, able to check a truckload of annoying threat like Terrakion, Lucario, ScarfMence, Scizor and some other."
    1450-1499 Points:
    • ShakeItUp [[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]] (-TheEnd- - 1463) Hyper Offense
    "Props: [. . .] Fatecrashers for building the awesome team"
    1400-1449 Points:

    • MetaGross66 [[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]] (Pokmi - 1420) Sand Stall
    "I'll admit I started with offense and switched to stall. Non-weather offense wasn't working past 1350 so I reverted to all out stall."

    • Lady Alex [[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]] (Ocean of Hourai - 1409) Baton Pass
    "Shamelessly BSed my way up with baton pass ^_^"
    • Xanderpitz [[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]|[​IMG]] (Xanderpitz2 - 1404) Baton Pass
    "It took a lot more battles than I was hoping for, but since I was using Baton Pass crithax kept setting me back."
  2. Skyshayde

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    I'll start after the VGC, sounds fun.

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    Team Type: idk, sun probably maybe hail or goodstuff
  3. The QWAZ

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    Sounds like fun

    PO alt: finlay
    Team type: balance
  4. McMeghan

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    PO alt used when laddering: McPollo
    Type of team: some kind of Sand Stall
    Ladder standing: 1462

    ^___^
  5. ToF

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    PO alt used when laddering: hate on itttt
    Type of team: Stall
    Ladder standing: 1354
  6. Furai

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    PO alt used when laddering: Brute
    Type of team: Sand Bulky Offense
    Ladder standing: 1096
  7. ginganinja

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    lol standard Sun Team anyone?

    Regardless ill give this a go

    PO alt used when laddering: Outsider
    Type of team: idk prolly something offensive
    Ladder standing: 1000
  8. HiipFire

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    PO alt used when laddering: imdabes
    Type of team: Balanced
    Ladder standing: 1000
  9. MetaGross66

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    PO alt used when laddering: Pokmi
    Type of team: All out offense :D
    Ladder standing: 1321
  10. Omicron

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    Ladder Alt: TaiYang
    Type of team: Offense
    Ladder Standing: --
  11. Tomahawk

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    PO alt used when laddering: The Notorious SMALL
    Type of team: Bulky Offense probably
    Ladder standing: 1169
  12. I AM BATMAN LOL

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    PO alt used when laddering I AM THE META
    Type of team stall to da wall
    Ladder Standing 1067 after 12 battles
  13. I AM BATMAN LOL

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    Can anyone help me in finding ways to counter breloom? It seems to be the only pokemon thats posing a real problem to my team
  14. Tyranitarphantom

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    Gliscor and Skarmory both handle it well, but it will probably get something put to sleep. If Gliscor comes in earlier and gets it's Toxic Orb active, it does incredibly well against Breloom
  15. toshimelonhead

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    PO alt used when laddering: toshioutsider
    Type of team: I have no idea atm
    Ladder standing: 1000
  16. Living So Zambian

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    PO alt used when laddering: Fake spit
    Type of team: Stall
    Ladder standing: 1000
  17. Marble101

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  18. bubbly

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    Team style: semistall / balanced
    Ladder ranking: 1341 peak so far

    Had a nice run at the start...handling rain stalls seems to be the most difficult thing so far without Rotom-W.
  19. AOPSUser

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    Should be pretty easy considering an older version of this team got around 1350. Made some improvements to it though. Should be fun.
  21. Harsha

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    @ I AM BATMAN LOL: you could try an acrobatics variant of gliscor, it can do pretty well, but you have to sac something to sleep which is unfortunate.
  22. XcRunner

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    Switched to hail offense.
    At 1141 right now
  23. Mafeking

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    Harsha! The writing of the OP seems to be quite impressive, I wonder who checked it for you? ;)

    but whatever we're like best friends or something so giving this a go!

    PO alt used when laddering: IncredibleMisfit
    Type of team: Bulky Offense
    Ladder standing: 1099

    Alt changed to fix something.
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    pro-project, Harsha! Good timing, too, since Dark Horse Project will be on hiatus for awhile. I will register for this later :d
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    good job! i think a way to beat rain stall may be the notorious bulk up breloom, though obviously it won't fit on some teams. anyhow, you could try rotom-c which deals well with gastrodon and can perform well as a scout. what pokemon would you say give you trouble?

    and thanks for the love pocket and mafe! (i do wonder who gped the op. . . . . .)
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