Reply Who has seen this @$$hole Drifblim @ sitrus berry Unburden EV set ??? (must be bulky though, because if i remember correctly, my scarfchomps stone edge was at least 3hko with sitrus berry) Minimize Substitute Baton pass Disable/Acrobatics/whatever basicly, it just starts minimizing, usually getting 1-2 in, then the berry activates, and it starts subbing till it evades, then passes away to a garchomp/ some other poke with sub + atk/spatk boosting move. I've gone up against these things 2-3 times, and lost each time. what makes it worse is that the guys using them have 550+ wins, which means that they have probably won 2000+ battles thanks to those damn balloons, factoring in how many people must ragequit against them. seriously, I'd rather stare down a full team of ubers in random matchup than one of these goddamn balloons. the one time I brought in a machamp against what I thought was one, it ohkoed with a flight jewel acrobatics.