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The Underdog Challenge

Discussion in 'BW NU' started by Keiran, Sep 1, 2012.

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  1. Keiran

    Keiran

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    ~Hosted by me and Raseri~

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    Introduction:

    The Underdog Challenge—like its OU counterpart, The Dark Horse Project—is a challenge tailored to promote diversity in the tier. While some may argue that NU is already extremely varied, there are some Pokemon that are underrated or undiscovered. This challenge aims to change that.

    Rules:

    • Your Underdog Pokemon usage percent has to be 2% or less. (August usage stats)
    • Two Pokemon on your team have to be Underdog Pokemon. The rest of your teammates can be Pokemon found above 2%
    • Your sign-up post must include both your alt name and the Pokemon you plan on using. Don't be afraid to theorymon!
    • No ladder cheating!
    • In order to qualify for the Hall of Fame, your alt must reach at least 1750 points on Pokemon Showdown!'s ladder; more details are in the "Hall of Fame" section below.
    • Upon qualifying for the Hall of Fame you must make a post in this thread with a screenshot of your ladder ranking, as well as the sets of the Underdogs you used. Don't be afraid to discuss them!
    • Sweet Potatoes are encouraged to do more than just post what they use. They are encouraged to talk about the Pokemon that they and other participants are using, such as their uses and niches or why they are using them. Discuss!

    Registration:

    Example (open)
    Pokemon Showdown! Username:
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with:
    Current Ladder Ranking:


    Discussion:

    Not only does this challenge strive to find new and underutilized Pokemon, it also serves as a discussion thread. Be sure to reason about everything from what Pokemon you are utilizing to what sets their teammates are using!

    • What Underdog Pokemon you are using
    • What Pokemon you are pairing them with, as well as cores they're effective in.
    • The state of the NU metagame and how to build teams in it.
    • What Pokemon you used that worked, as well as ones that didn't.
    • Feel free to ask questions about how to teambuild if you are struggling

    Hall of Fame:

    Platinum: 6 Underdog Pokemon @ 1950 points

    Gold: (1950)
    FLCL: [​IMG] [​IMG]
    New Breed: [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Silver: (1850)
    Django: [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Sweet Jesus: [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Bronze: (1750)
    mrite: [​IMG] [​IMG]
    breh: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    WhiteDMist: [​IMG] [​IMG][​IMG]
    Demist: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    KingQuag: [​IMG][​IMG]
  2. Django

    Django
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    So is it 2% or 3.41%??
  3. New Breed

    New Breed BIG MONEY
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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: OneSevenTwo
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Golduck, Klang
    Current Ladder Ranking: Not ranked.
  4. JoshuaMunoz

    JoshuaMunoz

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Ditto 1
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Magmar, Zweilous
    Current Ladder :
  5. Level 51

    Level 51 [17:37:18] boTTT: (Private to @Level 51) ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
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    I suppose I could join
    Pokemon Showdown! Username: FiftyOne
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Audino (below 3.41%), Shuckle (below 2%), Banette (below 2%), Whirlipede (below 2%)
    Current Ladder Ranking: Unranked
  6. Ewil

    Ewil

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    I'll try it ! so IN

    Pokemon Showdown! Username: UnDewil

    Underdog Pokemon currently working with:

    | 103 | Beheeyem | 1251 | 1.729% | 997 | 1.665% |

    With his new ability, he's a pokémon that i've always wish to use, and now i think it's the time to try ! Analytic paired with awesome SpA, decent bulk and stupid speed, is a god-send and i love slow powerful mons, the real test is to guess if is better Recover or Nasty Plot in the last Move slot. The Coverage moves are probably Psyshock|Psychic/Signal Beam/HP Groud like Musharna and others psychic-type.

    | 106 | Klang | 1181 | 1.632% | 941 | 1.572% |

    Second pokemon that i wish to use but never have the ocasion. Sounds pretty strong and bulky, i've to choose good teammates to cover his weakness. I think that a Spike-stacking team is the best for those two mons.

    Current Ladder Ranking: 0
  7. Django

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Hudson Mohawke
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Huntail and Murkrow
    Current Ladder Ranking: ~
  8. FLCL

    FLCL
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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: SHAFT
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Heatmor and Klang
    Current Ladder Ranking: silver

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  9. Himanattsu

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Himanattsu
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Delcatty and Octillery
    Current Ladder Ranking: Unranked
  10. Magik

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Ralph
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Combusken and Duosion
    Current Ladder Ranking: ~
    :D
  11. dinosaurdan

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    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Vileplume and Zweilous
    Current Ladder Ranking: Unranked
  12. erisia

    erisia (macho) brace yourselves
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    I've finished my work experience! Which means I now have time for Pokemon again. Count me in, will update with my details in a sec once I get a team together.

    Also, woot at Articuno getting awesome usage. Guess I'll have to pick something else.

    Pokemon Showdown! Username: erisiawhat
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Magmar
    Current Ladder Ranking: 1761

    The awkward moment when I realise I've been laddering with a Gurdurr that doesn't have any EVs. -_-
  13. Sweet Jesus

    Sweet Jesus Neal and Jack and me, absent lovers...

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    I wasn't sure of which to pick, so I tested them out and now I have the confirmation I'll use those 2 but my alt already has around 1500 ranking. I sware I haven't use any other team with the same alt though:

    Pokemon showdown! Username: Jesus shall ram
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Rampardos and zebstrika
    Current ranking, around: 1500 (but I started from 0)

    EDIT: oh appraently it's dropped to 2 %, I'll find other stuff later
  14. Keiran

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    Just reiterating - your Underdog Pokemon must be below 2%. So Pokemon like Zebstrika and Rampardos are not allowed. Feel free to use them on your teams though.
  15. shnen

    shnen שוני
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    username: Lord of Light
    Underdog pokes: Klang
    rating: 1595
  16. Straw Hat

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Straw Hat
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Zweilous and Klang
    Current Ladder Ranking: None
  17. CrashinBoomBang

    CrashinBoomBang muahahaha EHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: ---
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    ok i already had to change my name once because of a trash player haxing me cool
    and now to regice and victreebel sucking i hate this
    lol did i really face rocky helmet sawk critting two pokemon and burning the last one yeah im dropping out fuck this game

    raseri is garbage for editing my post
  18. Zebraiken

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Underdawg
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Emolga, Beheeyem, Beartic, Shiftry, Mawile, Murkrow
    Current Ladder Ranking: 1370

    lfgi
  19. New Breed

    New Breed BIG MONEY
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    Okay so since only the first person using the Pokemon get into the hall of fame might as well post mine now and take Klang and Golduck off the list..

    Peak so far
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    As most of you know Klang is pretty good at the moment setting up on alot of things, he is pretty weak at +1 but his good bulk with Eviolite often allows him multiple boosts. Being able to set up on the popular Regenerator Core of Amoonguss and Alomomola is a big bonus. Klang appreciates the removal of other Steel types and also Fire types, once they are gone it's pretty easy to find an opportunity to sweep.

    The Set
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    Klang @ Eviolite
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 248 Atk / 180 Spd / 78 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Substitute
    - Shift Gear
    - Gear Grind
    - Return


    Golduck is very underrated at the moment, with better Speed and Special Attack than Ludicolo I find it hard to believe that it has under 2% usage. Golduck servers an almost identical role as Ludicolo and is pretty good at his job. Most teams on the ladder are stupidly weak to Rain Dance Ludicolo and the same goes for Golduck. Golduck is great for dealing with the Fire types that Klang despises and overall work well in tandem with each other.

    The Set
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    Golduck @ Life Orb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Rain Dance
    - Hydro Pump
    - Focus Blast/Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Ice Beam


    Will add more about the rest of the team and how they support these Pokemon after I reach Gold.
  20. drakon136

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    Pokemon Showdown! Username: Heliasalt
    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Bellossom, Simisear
    Current Ladder Ranking: Unranked currently
  21. Annoyer

    Annoyer =)~

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    Underdog pokemon currently working with: Mawile, Grumpig
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    NFE Team is shit.

    Mawile and Grumpig are two great pokemon defensively that I have used extensively in the past together.
  22. Shuckleking87

    Shuckleking87 "Assault vest makes everything better" AV Seaking, BT
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    So go big or go home, right?
    FOr the platinum challenge, i will bring

    Illumise
    Victrebel
    Octillery
    Shiftry
    Magmar
    Scraggy
    This may take awhile..
    Alt: Shuckleking8
  23. Incon

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    Underdog pokemon currently working with: Whiscash, SHELMET
    Current ladder ranking: ~
  24. Raseri

    Raseri here to help
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    Pokemon Showdonw! Username: Rasunderdog
    Underdog pokemon currently working with: stunfisk, seadra, duosion, shiftry, machoke, magmar
    Current ladder ranking: -26
  25. Antyee

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    Underdog Pokemon currently working with: Frillish, Granbull, Wormadam-T, Hypno, Vileplume, Heatmor
    Current Ladder Ranking: -
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