i'm just talking about the personal issue, if you saw my post it was "vil got counterteamed!" not "scofield counterteamed vil". but you did go and say "I'd leave it to Shiv to say some nonsense like that", now thats personal. i'm not saying anything against scofield, the fact that he didn't even listen to shit about vil's team is pretty cool, i'm just saying that west isn't as cute and straight as they make themselves out to be :) anyway, some fucked up shit has come to my attention, i'm temporarily putting the stalefish vs lovedestiny fight on hold till we sort this crap out. jackal -- see your pm.