Completed This will be a nice battle. Waterwarrior vs. Frosty!

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  1. akela

    akela

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    Note: This is my first time reffing, so I am bound to make mistakes. Please point out any issues you find.

    Rules:
    2vs2 doubles
    Training Battle!
    Subs: 3
    Items: Training
    Arena: ASB Arena
    DQ: 2 Days
    Abilities: All
    Recoveries: 0
    Chills: 2

    Waterwarrior's team:
    Gorbachev the Rotom-F (open)


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    Rotom (Gorbachev) -
    Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
    Type:
    Electric:
    Electric STAB; 50% reduction in paralysis chance from other electrical attacks, perfect accuracy and 30% chance of Protect breaking Thunder during Rain. Superior senses in power plant environments.
    Ghost:
    Ghost STAB; brief intangibility that nullifies Normal and Fighting-type attacks. Can move through walls for a brief period of time but must remain in motion. Superior senses in low light and inside dark buildings. Have no vision reduction in hazes.
    Ice (with Fridge only):
    Ice STAB; immune to freezing and Sheer Cold, no vision loss or damage in Hail or snowstorm conditions, perfectly accurate and 30% Protect breaking Blizzard in Hail. Superior senses and mobility in frozen caves and other frigid arenas.

    Abilities
    Levitate:
    (Trait) This Pokemon naturally floats above the earth when released or easily takes flight, evading the Ground moves Bulldoze, Earthquake, Fissure, and Magnitude. Earth Power will have three (3) less Base Attack Power. Dig and Dive can strike a Levitating Pokemon if their user is over Size Class 4, has Levitate, is 3.5m or larger, or is a Flying-type. Otherwise Dig and Dive will miss. Ground moves can still hit. Levitate Pokemon will retain the Levitate trait when they use Skill Swap on an enemy, and will steal the opponent's ability (the user can specify if they want a foe or ally to gain Levitate from a Skill Swap.) If a Pokemon with Levitate uses Role Play, they will copy the opponent's abilities and retain Levitate.

    Stats: (Normal/Fridge)

    HP: 90
    Atk: Rank 1/ 2 (-)
    Def: Rank 3/ 4
    SpA: Rank 4/ 5 (+)
    SpD: Rank 3/ 4
    Spe: 91/ 86
    Size Class: 1/ 2
    Weight Class: 1/ 3
    Base Rank Total: 16

    EC:
    N/A
    MC: 0
    DC: NA

    Attacks: (15/ 53 total moves)
    Trick
    Astonish
    Thunder Wave
    ThunderShock
    Confuse Ray
    Uproar
    Double Team
    Shock Wave

    Thunderbolt
    Shadow Ball
    Protect

    Pain Split
    Signal Beam
    Dark Pulse

    Blizzard (with Fridge only)

    Shi Huangdi the Onix (open)


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    Onix (Shi Haungdi) Male
    Nature: Adamant (+1 Atk, -1 SpA)
    Type: Rock/Ground
    Rock STAB; reduce damage from all special attacks by two (2) Base Attack Power during Sandstorm. Able to use Sand Tomb without losing focus

    Ground STAB; Immune to all electrical attacks, can Dig through almost any substance, Evasive Digging reduced from 6 per action Energy Cost to 5 per action, superior senses in darkened cave surroundings.

    Abilities:
    Sturdy: (Innate) This Pokemon’s body is solidly constructed, reducing the Base Attack Power from an opponents incoming attacks by one (1). The effect is amplified on OHKO Moves, which are reduced by ten (10) Base Attack Power.
    Rock Head: (Innate) This Pokemon’s hard body prevents it from taking recoil damage from moves such as Double-Edge, Flare Blitz, and Head Smash.
    Weak Armor (DW ability- LOCKED): (Can be Enabled) The Pokemon can loosen its worn defensive armor so that it will break off when an opponent uses a contact attack, reducing the Pokemon's Defense and increasing their Speed by one (1) stage for each hit.

    Stats:
    HP: 90
    Atk: Rank 3 (+)
    Def: Rank 6
    SpA: Rank 1 (-)
    SpD: Rank 2
    Spe: 70
    Size Class: 7
    Weight Class: 6
    Base Rank Total: 17

    EC: 1/6
    MC: 0
    DC: 1/5

    Attacks: (19/ 87 total moves)
    Physical:
    Bind
    Double-Edge
    Earthquake
    Flail
    Heavy Slam
    Iron Tail
    Rage
    Rock Tomb
    Rock Throw
    Smack Down
    Stone Edge
    Tackle

    Special:

    Status:
    Harden
    Mud Sport
    Protect
    Sandstorm
    Screech
    Stealth Rock
    Taunt


    Frosty's Team
    Fyros the Flarelm (open)

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    Flarelm [Fyros] (Male)
    Nature: Brave (+ Atk, - Spe, -10% Evasion)
    Type: Grass/Fire
    Fire: Fire STAB; immune to burn, emit a low glow in dark places, takes additional damage if active open flames are exposed to a water attack. Superior senses in volcanic or brushfire areas.
    Grass: Grass STAB; immunity to Leech Seed and Worry Seed. 50% reduction in status effect chance of oncoming "powder" attacks. More mobile in areas with strong natural light sources. Superior senses in tall grass and forest areas. Able to use Wrap and Bind without losing focus.


    Abilities:
    Abilities:
    Leaf Guard: (Innate) In bright sunlight the Pokemon is surrounded by a faint green glow. The glow protects it from all permanent and temporary status conditions.
    Battle Armor: (Innate) This Pokemon’s thick armor prevents it from taking critical hits.
    Chlorophyll (DW): (Innate) LOCKED During bright sunlight, this Pokemon’s cells absorb more solar energy, doubling (x2) their speed.

    Stats:

    HP: 100
    Atk: Rank 3 (+)
    Def: Rank 3
    SpA: Rank 3
    SpD: Rank 3
    Spe: 34 (-)
    Size Class: 3
    Weight Class: 4
    Base Rank Total: 16


    EC: 8/9
    MC: 0
    DC: 1/5


    Attacks (33):
    Bullet Seed
    Sweet Scent
    Absorb
    Growth
    Ember
    Leech Seed
    Flame Wheel
    Giga Drain
    Fire Spin
    Synthesis
    Lava Plume
    Petal Dance
    Leaf Tornado
    Flame Burst
    Leaf Tornado
    Double Edge
    Zap Cannon
    Iron Defense

    Counter
    Aromatherapy
    Revenge
    Blaze Kick

    Protect
    Fire Blast
    Rock Slide
    Low Kick
    Endure
    Heat Wave
    Roar
    Solarbeam
    Substitute
    Earth Power
    Flamethrower


    Deku Tree the Grotle (open)

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    Grotle [Deku Tree] (Male)
    Nature: Sassy (+ SpD, - Spe, -10% Evasion)
    Type: Grass
    Grass: Grass STAB; immunity to Leech Seed and Worry Seed. 50% reduction in status effect chance of oncoming "powder" attacks. More mobile in areas with strong natural light sources. Superior senses in tall grass and forest areas. Able to use Wrap and Bind without losing focus.


    Abilities:
    Abilities:
    Overgrow: (Innate) When this Pokemon’s HP is lower than 33% (flat), the Base Attack Power of any grass attack is increased by two (2). (eg Giga Drain goes from 8 to 10, Solarbeam from 12 to 14)
    Shell Armor (DW): (Innate) LOCKED This Pokemon’s thick, bony outer shell prevents it from taking critical hits.

    Stats:

    HP: 100
    Atk: Rank 3
    Def: Rank 3
    SpA: Rank 2
    SpD: Rank 4 (+)
    Spe: 31 (-)
    Size Class: 2
    Weight Class: 4
    Base Rank Total: 16


    EC: 8/9
    MC: 0
    DC: 3/5


    Attacks (28):
    Tackle
    Withdraw
    Absorb
    Razor Leaf
    Curse
    Bite
    Mega Drain
    Leech Seed
    Synthesis
    Crunch
    Giga Drain
    Leaf Storm
    Grass Pledge

    Wide Guard
    Superpower
    Seed Bomb
    Sand Tomb

    Protect
    Light Screen
    Reflect
    Substitute
    Stealth Rock
    Grass Knot
    Endure
    Earth Power
    Toxic
    Worry Seed
    Safeguard

    1) Frosty sends out his pokemon and equips items
    2) Waterwarrior sends out his pokemon, equips items, and declares attacks
    3) Frosty declares attacks
    4) I get drunk, ref, and write. Preferably in that order.
  2. Frosty

    Frosty

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    I think you forgot to put up the rules of the match (doubles, item=training, subs abilities and what-not.

    Regardless, I send out Fyros the Flarelm with Exp. Share and Deku Tree the Grotle with Amulet Coin.
  3. waterwarrior

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    Get 'em boys!
    Gorbachev @ Exp. Share
    Shi Huangdi @ Lucky Egg

    Gorbachev: Blizzard x3
    If Wide Guard, change that action to Signal Beam (Deku Tree)
    If Deku Tree uses a successful P/E move, change that action to Dark Pulse (Fyros)
    If Deku Tree faints, change remaining actions to Signal Beam (Fyros)

    Shi Huangdi: Earthquake -> Stone Edge (Fyros) -> Earthquake
    If Wide Guard when you would use Earthquake, Stone Edge (Fyros) and push back
    If Counter, change that action to Taunt (Fyros) the first time, Bind (Fyros) the second, and Taunt (Deku Tree the third time
    If targeted by an offensive Grass-type combo, Protect and push back. Do not activate on consecutive actions.
    If Deku Tree faints, change A3 to Smack Down (Fyros)

    I can't believe it, but even with this many subs, I can still see some ways around this :/
    Also, keep in mind that KO subs do not count towards the sub count, so Onix technically only has 3 subs.
  4. Frosty

    Frosty

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    There is probably a cleaner way to do this. But I am in a real rush so this will have to make do.

    Fyros: Revenge (Rotom) - COMBO (Flamethrower + Flamethrower) (Rotom) - cooldown


    Deku Tree: Giga Drain (Onix) - COMBO (Superpower + Superpower) (Rotom) - cooldown
  5. akela

    akela

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    [​IMG] Gorbachev
    90 HP|100 EN
    [​IMG] Shi Huangdi
    90 HP|100 EN

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    [​IMG]Fyros
    100 HP|100 EN
    [​IMG]Deku Tree
    100 HP|100 EN

    ROUND 1
    ACTION 1
    Gorbachev's Blizzard
    Accuracy Check (8000) on Fyros: 6179 (Hit)
    Accuracy check (8000) on Deku Tree: 4530 (Hit)
    Crit check (625) on Deku Tree: 4092 (No)
    Effect Chance (1000) on Fyros: 3912 (NO)
    Effect Chance (1000) on Deku Tree: 2763 (NO)
    Damage Check on Fyros:[(12*0.75 + 3 + 0 + 7.5 + 0 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 1] + (0*1.75) = 15
    Damage Check on Deku Tree: [(12*0.75 + 3 + 0 + 7.5 + 0 + 0 - 6 - 0) *1.5] + (0*1.75) = 20.25
    EN Check = 8 - 1 = 7

    Shi Huangdi's Earthquake
    Crit check (625) on Deku Tree: 7991 (No)
    Damage Check on Fyros: [(10*0.75 + 3 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 1] + (0*1.75) = 10.5
    Damage Check on Deku Tree: [(10*0.75 + 3 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 0.67] + (0*1.75) = 7.035
    EN Check = 7 - 1 = 6

    Deku Tree's Giga Drain on Shi Huangdi
    Crit Check (625) on Shi Huangdi: 1074 (NO)
    Damage check: [(8 + 3 + 0 + 3 - 1 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 2.25)] + (0*1.75) = 19.125
    Heal Check: 22.5 / 2 = 9.5625
    EN Check: 12 - 1 = 11

    Fyros' Revenge on Gorbachev
    Crit Check (625) on Gorbachev: 5586
    Damage Check: [(12 + 0 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 - 6 - 0) * 1.5)] + (0*1.75) = 15.75
    EN Check: 8

    ACTION 2
    Gorbachev's Blizzard
    Accuracy Check (8000) on Fyros: 5714 (HIT)
    Accuracy Check (8000) on Deku Tree: 1948 (HIT)
    Crit Check (625) on Deku Tree: 3001 (NO)
    Effect Chance (1000) on Fyros: 3041 (NO)
    Effect Chance (1000) on Deku Tree: 7405 (NO)
    Damage Check on Fyros:[(12*0.75 + 3 + 0 + 7.5 + 0 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 1] + (0*1.75) = 15
    Damage Check on Deku Tree: [(12*0.75 + 3 + 0 + 7.5 + 0 + 0 - 6 - 0) *1.5] + (0*1.75) = 20.25
    EN Check = 12 - 1 = 11

    Shi Huangdi's Stone Edge on Fyros
    Accuracy Check (9000) on Fyros: 2817 (HIT)
    Damage Check on Fyros: [(10 + 3 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 1.5] + (0*1.75) = 19.5
    EN Check: 7 - 1 = 6

    Deku Tree's Superpower + Superpower combo on Gorbachev
    Crit Check (625) on Gorbachev: 9946 (NO)
    Damage Check on Gorbachev: [(12*2.25 + 0 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 - 6 - 0) * 1.5] + (0*1.75) = 38.25
    EN Check: (12 + (12 + 4)) * 1.75 = 49
    Stat Drops: -2 ATK, -2 DEF

    Fyros' Flamethrower + Flamethrower Combo on Gorbachev
    Crit Check (625) on Gorbachev: 958 (NO)
    Effect Chance (2000): 6088 (NO)
    Damage Check on Gorbachev: [(10*2.25 + 3 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 - 6 - 0) * 1.5] + (0*1.75) = 36
    EN Check: (7 + (7 + 4)) * 1.75 = 31.5

    ACTION 3
    Shi Huangdi's Earthquake
    Crit check (625) on Deku Tree: 5250 (No)
    Damage Check on Fyros: [(10*0.75 + 3 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 1] + (0*1.75) = 10.5
    Damage Check on Deku Tree: [(10*0.75 + 3 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 0.67] + (0*1.75) = 7.035
    EN Check = 7 - 1 = 6

    ROUND 1 OVER!
    Results (open)

    [​IMG]Gorbachev
    90 - (15.75 + 38.25 + 36) = 0 HP
    100 - (7 + 11) = 82 EN

    [​IMG]Shi Huangdi
    90 - 19.125 = 70.875 Rounded to 71 HP
    100 - (6 + 6 + 6) = 82 EN

    [​IMG]Fyros
    100 - (15 + 10.5 + 15 + 19.5) = 60 HP
    100 - (8 + 31.5) = 60.5 Rounded to 60 HP
    Other: 1 KOC

    [​IMG]Deku Tree
    100 - (20.25 + 7.035 - 9.5625 + 20.25 + 7.035) = 54.9925 Rounded to 55 HP
    100 - (11 + 49) = 40 EN
    Other: -2 ATK, -2 DEF


    For now, basic formatting. I will make it all fancy later.

    If the reffing is correct, the next moves will be:
    Frosty Orders
    Waterwarrior Orders
    I ref
  6. waterwarrior

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    1. ASB effectiveness multipliers are not .25x, .5x, 1x, 2x, and 4x, but .44x, .67x, 1x, 1.5x, and 2.25x, respectively.
    2. If a value in a calculation (like ability modifiers, status modifiers, etc.) are not applicable to the move, you can just ignore it, calcs with a shitton of 0's in them are just kinda weird. @_@
    3. Rank bonuses are always multiplied by 1.5. For example, a Rank 4 SpA gives each special move 6 more BAP, not 4 (except for rank 6 and above, but that's irrelevant for now)
    4. Onix should have used Earthquake A1, not Protect. My sub for Protect only would have activated if a combo was used, but he only used a regular attack

    That's all I could find for now, but don't let these mistakes discourage you. It's your first reffing (and Doubles with multi-target moves are always bitches to ref), so all these mistakes are common and practically expected.
  7. Frosty

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    Grotle is Grass, not Grass/Ground, not Blizzard deals a teensy bit less damage.

    Also Some suggestions:

    1) PM, VM or bump the topic when you edit in a reffing. You can't expect the battlers to check the topic out of the blue

    2) Leaving out flavor is accepted (if you can do flavor better, but oh well), but try to at least make the standings easy to understand, as they are what matters the most to most battlers.


    That being said, let us continue!

    Fyros/Flarelm: Petal Dance*3

    Deku Tree/Grotle: Giga Drain - Leaf Storm - Seed Bomb
  8. waterwarrior

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    Wooooooow this went worse than expected. GG Frosty.

    Double-Edge Deku Tree until dead
  9. akela

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    Starting Stats (open)

    [​IMG]Gorbachev
    0 HP
    82 EN

    [​IMG]Shi Huangdi
    71 HP
    82 EN

    [​IMG]Fyros
    60 HP
    60 HP
    Other: 1 KOC

    [​IMG]Deku Tree
    55 HP
    40 EN
    Other: -2 ATK, -2 DEF


    ROUND 2
    ACTION 1
    Shi Huangdi's Double Edge on Deku Tree
    Crit Check (625) on Deku Tree: 5988 (NO)
    BAP: (10 + 6/1.5) = 14
    Damage Check: ((14 + 0 + 0 + 4.5 - 4.5) * 1) + (2 * 1.75) = 17.5
    Shi Huangdi's Rock Head activates, preventing it from receiving Recoil Damage.
    EN Check: 6 + 6/1.5 = 10

    Deku Tree's Giga Drain on Shi Huangdi
    Crit Check (625) on Shi Huangdi: 7732 (NO)
    Damage check: ((8 + 3 + 0 + 3 - 1 + 0 - 4.5 - 0) * 2.25)) + (0*1.75) = 19.125
    Heal Check: 22.5 / 2 = 9.5625
    EN Check: 12 - 1 = 11

    Fyros' Petal Dance on Shi Huangdi
    Crit Check (625) on Shi Huangdi: 5766 (NO)
    Damage Check: ((12 + 3 + 4.5 - 1 + - 4.5) * 2.25) + (0*1.75) = 31.5
    EN Check: 8 - 1 = 7

    Action 2
    Shi Huangdi's Double Edge on Deku Tree
    Crit Check (625) on Deku Tree: 8349 (NO)
    BAP: (10 + 6/1.5) = 14
    ((14 + 0 + 0 + 4.5 + 0 + 0 + 0 - 4.5 + 0 + 0) * 1) + (2 * 1.75) = 17.5
    Shi Huangdi's Rock Head activates, preventing it from receiving Recoil Damage.
    EN Check: 6 + 6/1.5 + 4 = 14

    Deku Tree's Leaf Storm on Shi Huangdi
    Accuracy Check (9000): 5543 (HIT)
    Crit Check (625): 8644 (NO)
    ((14 + 3 + 3 - 1 - 4.5) * 2.25) + (0*1.75) = 32.625
    EN Check: 9 - 1 = 8

    END ROUND 2

    It was an entertaining battle to say the least. However, the nature spirits of Fyros and Deku Tree were just too much for Gorbachev and Shi Huangdi to handle. Best of luck to both teams in their future endeavors.

    Results (open)
    [​IMG]Gorbachev
    0 HP| 82 EN

    [​IMG]Shi Huangdi
    67 - (19.125 + 31.5 + 32.625) = - 16.25 Rounded to - 16 HP| 82 - (10 + 14) = 58 EN

    [​IMG]Fyros
    60 HP|60 - 7 = 53 EN
    Other: 1 KOC for KOing Gorbachev

    [​IMG]Deku Tree
    57 - ((17.5 - 9.5625) - 17.5) = 31.5625 Rounded to 32 HP|40 - (11 + 8) = 21 EN
    Other: 1 KOC for KOing Shi Huangdi


    Payout:
    Frosty
    2 CC
    - Deku Tree the Grotle: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC/1 KOC
    - Fyros the Flarelm: 1 EC/3 MC/1 DC/1 KOC
    waterwarrior
    1 CC
    - Shi Huangdi: 1 EC/2 MC/1 DC and +1 EC or +1 DC
    - Gorbachev: 4 MC (No Evolutions, no Dream world ability, holding an Exp. Share)
    akela
    4 UC
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