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Torkoal (Offensive Rapid Spin) [QC 3/3] (GP 2/2)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by ebeast, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. ebeast

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    SMASHKOAL

    [SET]
    name: SMASHKOAL (Offensive Rapid Spin)
    move 1: Shell Smash
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Earth Power / Hidden Power Grass
    item: White Herb
    ability: Shell Armor
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Move over, Raphael, there is a new turtle in the sewers of Manhattan. With Cryogonal leaving the land of Neverused, Torkoal stands as one of the few remaining viable users of the coveted Rapid Spin in NU. Turned down and pushed aside due to its Stealth Rock weakness, a timorous Torkoal can finally come out of its shell and show the world what it has always been capable of. With Shell Smash and its good 70/140/70 defenses, it can set up and threaten all of the terrifying Ghost-type Pokemon that reside in NU such as Golurk, Haunter, Misdreavus, and Drifblim. While not all too important to Torkoal's role, Shell Armor allows Torkoal to set up and sweep more reliably as it doesn't have to fear critical hits. After a boost, Torkoal is capable of outpacing every Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier barring Haunter, who cannot switch into Torkoal's Fire Blast. With a Modest nature Torkoal hits an impressive 590 Special Attack and a good 278 Speed stat, which allow it to deal massive damage to anything outside of dedicated special walls that attempt to come in while outpacing a big portion of the metagame. However, it should be noted that it misses out on key base 80 and above Speed Pokemon such as Braviary, Sawk, and Rotom-A. Torkoal has two choices for its coverage move in Earth Power and Hidden Power Grass which allow it to hit specific types and targets. Earth Power hits Fire-type Pokemon, such as Emboar, Rapidash, and Flareon, while Hidden Power Grass hits Water-type Pokemon, such as Samurott, Gorebyss, Seismitoad, and provides a way to deal with the Alomomola + Amoonguss Regenerator core. Earth Power gets the nod over Hidden Power Grass as preventing Emboar from stopping your sweep is very important, and Earth Power still hits Water-type Pokemon neutrally and already gets excellent damage on Hidden Power Grass's targets.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Even though Torkoal still has fantastic 70/140 defenses, this set cannot be played the same way as the defensive Torkoal sets. Without any investment, powerful attackers, such as Choice Band Braviary and Emboar, can break through Torkoal without much residual damage needed. White Herb is the item of choice as it prevents Torkoal's defenses from being decreased once, allowing it to take powerful priority moves such as Absol's Sucker Punch considerably better than with any other item. While Torkoal's base 20 Speed stat is nothing to write home about, a Timid nature is actually very beneficial for Torkoal, as it lets it outspeed many key Pokemon that Modest does not, such as the key base 80 Speed Pokemon mentioned above. Timid Torkoal is still capable of OHKOing the most common Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier and makes up for the loss in power with the the ability to outspeed important Pokemon in the metagame. While Misdreavus can survive a +2 Fire Blast from Torkoal, thanks to its White Herb item and Misdreavus's lack of Special Attack investment, Torkoal is capable of getting off a second Shell Smash which allows it to cleanly OHKO standard Misdreavus with even a Timid nature. Without a boost Torkoal is capable of outpacing the standard Golem, Regirock, and Vileplume sets and hitting them with the appropriate move before they can retaliate. At +4, Modest Torkoal is almost guaranteed a sweep with Choice Scarf Pokemon out of the way as it outspeeds even Timid Electrode by a single point and can OHKO Lickilicky with Stealth Rock up. With a Timid nature, Torkoal even outspeeds Timid Scarf Rotom-A and still has enough power to trample through almost any Pokemon that stands in its way. Of course without Modest, Lickilicky, Hypno, and Grumpig can tank a single hit and either Thunder Wave Torkoal or hit it with Psychic against its -1 Special Defense stat. However, out of the Pokemon mentioned above only Lickilicky is common, and at +4 Torkoal is more than likely to sweep regardless.</p>

    <p>White Smoke could be used over Shell Armor so that stat dropping effects from attacks, such as Crunch and Psychic, don't waste Torkoal's White Herb. While uncommon, this is a possible scenario and a reason to use White Smoke over Shell Armor. Torkoal could use other items, such as a Life Orb or Flame Plate, to increase its damage output; however, preventing the drops in Defense and Special Defense is generally more important. The increase in power from these items don't help it OHKO Misdreavus at +2 either, so it's usually not worth it. Torkoal is a great partner for Pokemon in need of Rapid Spin support such as Articuno, Altaria, Rotom-A, Braviary, Swellow, Charizard, and Butterfree. While it does compound a team's Rock-type weakness, Torkoal still gets the job done and further supports the above Pokemon by clearing the path of things that beat them, such as of Probopass, in Articuno and Altaria's case and Rock-type Pokemon, such as Golem and Regirock, in Charizard and Swellow's case.</p>
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    the set itself gets my approval but i have a few nitpicks. you should be talking about the slashed moves in set comments, not AC - both the explanation for EP / HP grass and the description of when to use each etc should be in the first section. the description of the EVs should be in AC, along with any additional moves / items as you have already done. you should also talk about what it hits at +4 / what still walls it then since it's very possible to reach that and actually sweep with torkoal, given the right opportunity. also talk about how you can't use this torkoal in the same vein as the other sets, as even with its 140 def it can still struggle to take big hits (jolly cb brav cleanly OHKOes after SR and outspeeds after +2). i'd also really like to see more options for teammates outside of ludicolo (who can also be harmful to torkoal especially if you misplay and use RD and then you can't KO something with fire blast in rain, etc).
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    We talked about this on IRC but make sure and mention a Timid nature as well. IIRC you don't miss out on Golurk with a little prior damage and you outspeed +Base 80s. So give that a mention. I'll try and add more later but do this first.
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    @Zeb
    The problem arises from the old format I'm using that I got from someone last year. This one has a "Why this set deserves to be on-site" instead of Set Comments, which is why I didn't think talking about move slashes would belong in there.

    I'll just change it over to Set Comments and add what you told me to as well as mentioning Timid in a bit.
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    Mention White Smoke so Pokemon that have Intimidate cannot come in and waste Torkoal's White Herb. Extremely situational and shouldn't matter in most cases, but it has happened to me before. Other than that the set looks great!

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    There's no such thing as a Pokémon with a base Speed stat of 89.
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    I am aware, that was there to show that it outspeeds everything up to that range. (misses out on Zangoose, a Base 90 Pokemon, by 2 points) I guess I could have worded it better, but this should have also been kind of obvious.
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    Yep, this looks great. Just as a frame of reference, Absol LO Sucker Punch deals 45.19 - 53.73% to this set, which goes to 67.61 - 80.07% when Torkoal is at -1, meaning it can be OHKO'd after Stealth Rock if it runs an item other than White Herb (especially Life Orb)

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    smh I used this more than a year ago

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    I would simply say that it 'outspeeds everything up to, but not including' or 'just barely misses out on' Zangoose and Jolly Kanga.
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    This has been written and is ready for GP checks!

    This might take some time though as GP members are packed at the moment. If anybody gets to this and has the time I'd appreciate if you could get to my Altaria analysis soon as well. :)
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    EDIT: I did some stuff, but I don't want to do anymore without telling you that EVs and nature belong in ac, but you discuss them in-depth in set comments.

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    [SET]
    name: SMASHKOAL (Offensive Rapid Spin)
    move 1: Shell Smash
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Earth Power / Hidden Power Grass
    item: White Herb
    Aability: Shell Armor
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <enter>
    <p>Move over Raphael, there is a new turtle in the sewers of Manhattan. With Cryogonal leaving the land of NeverUsed to join its brothers in the higher tiers, Torkoal stands ais one of the few remaining viable users of the coveted Rapid Spin in NU. Turned down and pushed aside due to its Stealth Rock weakness, a the timorous Torkoal can finally come out of its shell and show the world what it has always been capable of. With Shell Smash and its good solid 70/140/70 defenses, Torkoal it can set up on and threaten all of the terrifying Ghost-type Pokemon that reside in NU including Golurk, Haunter, Misdreavus, and Drifblim. While not all too important to Torkoal's role, Shell Armor allows Torkoal to have a more reliable time setting up and sweeping as it doesn't have to fear critical hits. After a boost Torkoal is capable of outpacing every Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier barring Haunter, who cannot switch into Torkoal's Fire Blast even if its undead life counted on it. With a Modest Nature Torkoal hits an impressive 590 Special Attack and a good 278 Speed stat which allows it to deal massive damage to anything outside of dedicated special walls that want to come in while outpacing everything a big portion of the metagame, though it misses out on key Base 80 Speed and above Pokemon such as Braviary, Sawk, and Rotom-A. While Torkoal's base 20 Speed stat is nothing to write home about, a Timid nature is actually very beneficial for Torkoal as it lets it outspeed many key Pokemon that Modest does not such as the key Pokemon mentioned above. Timid Torkoal is still capable of OHKOing the most common Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier and its loss in power is made up by the the ability to outspeed important Pokemon in the metagame. While Misdreavus can live a +2 Fire Blast from Torkoal, thanks to its White Herb item and Misdreavus's lack of Special Attack investment, Torkoal is capable of getting off a second Shell Smash which allows it to cleanly OHKO standard Misdreavus with even a Timid nature. Without a boost Torkoal is capable of outpacing the standard Golem, Regirock, and Vileplume sets and hitting them with the appropriate move before they can retaliate.</p>

    <p>At +4 Modest Torkoal is almost guaranteed a sweep with Scarf Pokemon out of the way as it can outspeed even Timid Electrode by a single point and OHKO Lickilicky with Stealth Rock up. With a Timid nature however, Torkoal can even outspeed Timid Scarf Rotom-A and still have enough power to trample through almost any Pokemon that stands in its way. Of course without Modest, Lickilicky, Hypno, and Grumpig can tank a single hit and either Thunder Wave or hit it a -1 Special Defense Torkoal with a Psychic. However, out of the Pokemon mentioned above only Lickilicky is common and at +4 Torkoal is more than likely to sweep regardless depending on how well it is supported throughout the game. Torkoal has two choice for its coverage move in Earth Power and Hidden Power Grass which allow it to hit specific types and targets. Earth Power power allows Torkoal to hit Fire-type Pokemon such as Emboar, Rapidash, and Flareon while Hidden Power Grass hits Water-type Pokemon such as Samurott, Gorebyss, Seismitoad, and provides as a way to deal with the Alomomola + Amoonguss Regenerator core. Earth Power gets the nod over Hidden Power Grass as preventing Emboar from stopping your sweep is very important while Earth Power still hits Water-type Pokemon neutrally and already gets excellent damage on Hidden Power Grass's targets.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    <p>Even though Torkoal still has fantastic 70/140 in its physical bulk it cannot be played the same way as the defensive Torkoal sets. Without any investment, powerful attackers such as Choice Band Braviary and Emboar can break through without much residual damage needed. White Herb is the item of choice as it prevents Torkoal's defenses to be decreased, allowing it to take powerful priority such as Absol's Sucker Punch considerable better than it could with any other item. White Smoke could be used over Shell Armor so that stat dropping effects from attacks such as Crunch and Psychic don't waste Torkoal's White Herb. While it's not too common of a situation this is a possible scenario and a reason to use White Smoke over Shell Armor. Torkoal could use other items such as a Life Orb or Flame Plate to increase its damage output, however preventing the drops in Defense and Special Defense is more important. The increase in power from those sets don't help it OHKO Misdreavus at +2 either, so it's usually not worth it. Torkoal is a great partner for Pokemon in need of Rapid Spin support such as Articuno, Altaria, Rotom-A, Braviary, Swellow, Charizard, and Butterfree. While it does compound to the Rock-type weakness, Torkoal still gets the job done and supports the above Pokemon by also being capable of clearing the path of things that beat them. Such as getting rid of Probopass in Articuno and Altaria's case and Rock-type Pokemon such as Golem and Regirock in Charizard and Swellow's case.</p>
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    k fixed. Also the space between [SET COMMENTS] and the writing is not required. Reserve a post again if you want to continue your AM check.
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    [SET]
    name: SMASHKOAL (Offensive Rapid Spin)
    move 1: Shell Smash
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Earth Power / Hidden Power Grass
    item: White Herb
    ability: Shell Armor
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
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    <p>Move over, Raphael, there is a new turtle in the sewers of Manhattan. With Cryogonal leaving the land of NeverUused to join its brothers in the higher tiers, Torkoal stands as one of the few remaining viable users of the coveted Rapid Spin in NU. Turned down and pushed aside due to its Stealth Rock weakness, a timorous Torkoal can finally come out of its shell and show the world what it has always been capable of. With Shell Smash and its good 70/140/70 defenses it can set up and threaten all of the terrifying Ghost-type Pokemon that reside in NU including Golurk, Haunter, Misdreavus, and Drifblim. While not all too important to Torkoal's role, Shell Armor allows Torkoal to have a more reliable time setting up and sweeping, as it doesn't have to fear critical hits. After a boost, Torkoal is capable of outpacing every Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier &mdash;barring Haunter, &mdash;who cannot switch into Torkoal's Fire Blast even if its undead life counted on it. With a Modest Nature, Torkoal hits an impressive 590 Special Attack and a good 278 Speed stat, which allows it to deal massive damage to anything outside of dedicated special walls that want to come in while outpacing everything a big portion of the metagame, though it misses out on key Bbase 80 Speed and above Speed Pokemon such as Braviary, Sawk, and Rotom-A. Torkoal has two choice for its coverage move in Earth Power and Hidden Power Grass which allow it to hit specific types and targets. Earth Power power allows Torkoal to hit Fire-type Pokemon, such as Emboar, Rapidash, and Flareon, while Hidden Power Grass hits Water-type Pokemon, such as Samurott, Gorebyss, Seismitoad, and provides as a way to deal with the Alomomola + Amoonguss Regenerator core. Earth Power gets the nod over Hidden Power Grass, as preventing Emboar from stopping your sweep is very important while Earth Power still hits Water-type Pokemon neutrally and already gets excellent damage on Hidden Power Grass's targets.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
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    <p>Even though Torkoal still has fantastic 70/140 in its physical bulkdefenses, it cannot be played the same way as the defensive Torkoal sets. Without any investment, powerful attackers, such as Choice Band Braviary and Emboar, can break through without much residual damage needed. White Herb is the item of choice, as it prevents Torkoal's defenses to be decreased, allowing it to take powerful priority moves, such as Absol's Sucker Punch, considerabley better than it could with any other item. While Torkoal's base 20 Speed stat is nothing to write home about, a Timid nature is actually very beneficial for Torkoal, as it lets it outspeed many key Pokemon that Modest does not, such as the key Pokemon mentioned above. Timid Torkoal is still capable of OHKOing the most common Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier and its loss in power is made up by the the ability to outspeed important Pokemon in the metagame. While Misdreavus can live a +2 Fire Blast from Torkoal, thanks to its White Herb item and Misdreavus's lack of Special Attack investment, Torkoal is capable of getting off a second Shell Smash which allows it to cleanly OHKO standard Misdreavus with even a Timid nature. Without a boost, Torkoal is capable of outpacing the standard Golem, Regirock, and Vileplume sets and hitting them with the appropriate move before they can retaliate. At +4, Modest Torkoal is almost guaranteed a sweep with Choice Scarf Pokemon out of the way, as it can outspeed even Timid Electrode by a single point and OHKO Lickilicky with Stealth Rock up. With a Timid nature however, Torkoal can even outspeed Timid Scarf Rotom-A and still have enough power to trample through almost any Pokemon that stands in its way. Of course without Modest, Lickilicky, Hypno, and Grumpig can tank a single hit and either Thunder Wave or hit it a -1 Special Defense Torkoal with a Psychic. However, out of the Pokemon mentioned above, only Lickilicky is common and at +4 Torkoal is more than likely to sweep regardless, depending on how well it is supported throughout the game.</p>

    <p>White Smoke could be used over Shell Armor so that stat dropping effects from attacks, such as Crunch and Psychic, don't waste Torkoal's White Herb. While it's not too common of a situation, this is a possible scenario and a reason to use White Smoke over Shell Armor. Torkoal could use other items, such as a Life Orb or Flame Plate, to increase its damage output, however, preventing the drops in Defense and Special Defense is more important. The increase in power from those sets don't help it OHKO Misdreavus at +2 either, so it's usually not worth it. Torkoal is a great partner for Pokemon in need of Rapid Spin support such as Articuno, Altaria, Rotom-A, Braviary, Swellow, Charizard, and Butterfree. While it does compound to the Rock-type weakness, Torkoal still gets the job done and supports the above Pokemon by also being capable of clearing the path of things that beat them. S, such as getting rid of Probopass in Articuno and Altaria's case and Rock-type Pokemon such as Golem and Regirock in Charizard and Swellow's case.</p>


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    Thanks for the check Redew! I actually noticed it when it came out, but forgot to add it in until now. This is ready for its last and final stamp! (Hopefully soon as this has become the standard for Torkoal and should be up on site asap)
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    I implemented a lot of CBT's AM check except for Neverused to NU because Neverused sounds more magical.~~~~ I might have missed have missed a few commas from the check as well as it can sometimes be hard to spot them, especially when I'm colorblind and I have to stare at a screen with red and green. :L

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    Amateur GP check. Take whatever you think is useful from it.
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    [SET]
    name: SMASHKOAL (Offensive Rapid Spin)
    move 1: Shell Smash
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Earth Power / Hidden Power Grass
    item: White Herb
    ability: Shell Armor
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Move over, Raphael, there is a new turtle in the sewers of Manhattan. With Cryogonal leaving the land of Neverused, Torkoal stands as one of the few remaining viable users of the coveted Rapid Spin in NU. Turned down and pushed aside due to its Stealth Rock weakness, a timorous Torkoal can finally come out of its shell and show the world what it has always been capable of. With Shell Smash and its good 70/140/70 defenses, it can set up and threaten all of the terrifying Ghost-type Pokemon that reside in NU, such as Golurk, Haunter, Misdreavus, and Drifblim. While not all too important to Torkoal's role, Shell Armor allows Torkoal to have a more reliable time setting up and sweeping set up and sweep more reliably as it doesn't have to fear critical hits. After a boost (add comma) Torkoal is capable of outpacing every Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier&mdash; barring Haunter&mdash; other than Haunter, (there are other ways to rephrase this if you don't like my suggestion, but the emdash makes it so it looks like you're saying every Ghost-type cannot switch into Fire Blast) who cannot switch into Torkoal's Fire Blast. With a Modest nature (add comma) Torkoal hits an impressive 590 Special Attack and a good 278 Speed stat, which allows allow it to deal massive damage to anything outside of dedicated special walls that want attempts to come in while outpacing a big large portion of the metagame, though it misses out on (new sentence) However, it should be noted that Torkoal is still outsped by key base 80 and above Speed Pokemon such as Braviary, Sawk, and Rotom-A. Torkoal has two choice for its coverage move in Earth Power and Hidden Power Grass which allow it to hit specific types and targets. Earth Power power allows Torkoal to hit hits Fire-type Pokemon, such as Emboar, Rapidash, and Flareon, while Hidden Power Grass hits Water-type Pokemon, such as Samurott, Gorebyss, and Seismitoad, and provides a way to deal with the Alomomola + Amoonguss Regenerator core. Earth Power gets the nod over Hidden Power Grass as preventing Emboar from stopping your sweep is very important while and Earth Power still hits Water-type Pokemon neutrally and already gets excellent deals/does significant damage on to Hidden Power Grass's targets.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Even though Torkoal still has fantastic 70/140 defenses, it this set cannot be played the same way as the defensive Torkoal sets. Without any investment, powerful attackers such as Choice Band Braviary and Emboar, can break through Torkoal without much residual damage needed. White Herb is the item of choice as it prevents Torkoal's defenses from being decreased once, allowing it to take powerful priority moves such as Absol's Sucker Punch considerably better than with any other item. While Torkoal's base 20 Speed stat is nothing to write home about, a Timid nature is actually very beneficial for Torkoal, as it lets it outspeed many key Pokemon that Modest does not, such as the key base 80 Speed Pokemon mentioned above. Timid Torkoal is still capable of OHKOing the most common Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier and its makes up for the loss in power is made up by the with the ability to outspeed important Pokemon in the metagame. While Misdreavus can live a +2 Fire Blast from Torkoal (add comma) thanks to its White Herb item and Misdreavus's lack of Special Attack investment, Torkoal is capable of getting off a second Shell Smash which allows it to cleanly OHKO standard Misdreavus with even a Timid nature. Without a boost Torkoal is capable of outpacing the standard Golem, Regirock, and Vileplume sets and hitting them with the appropriate move before they can retaliate. At +4, Modest Torkoal is almost guaranteed a sweep with Choice Scarf Pokemon out of the way as it can outspeed outspeeds even Timid Electrode by a single point and can OHKO Lickilicky with Stealth Rock up. With a Timid nature, Torkoal can even outspeed outspeeds Timid Scarf Rotom-A and still have has enough power to trample through almost any Pokemon that stands in its way. Of course without Modest, Lickilicky, Hypno, and Grumpig can tank a single hit and either Thunder Wave it or hit it a its -1 Special Defense Torkoal with a Psychic. However, out of the Pokemon mentioned above only Lickilicky is common (add comma) and at +4 (add comma) Torkoal is more than likely to sweep regardless, depending on how well it is supported throughout the game (from my perspective this seems like fluff, but you can probably leave it in if you disagree).</p>

    <p>White Smoke could be used over Shell Armor so that stat dropping effects from attacks, such as Crunch and Psychic, don't waste Torkoal's White Herb. While it's uncommon, this is a possible scenario and a reason to use White Smoke over Shell Armor. Torkoal could use other items (add comma) such as a Life Orb or Flame Plate, to increase its damage output, (change to semicolon) however, preventing the drops in Defense and Special Defense is generally more important. The increase in power from those sets these items don't help it OHKO Misdreavus at +2 either, so it's usually not worth it. Torkoal is a great partner for Pokemon in need of Rapid Spin support such as Articuno, Altaria, Rotom-A, Braviary, Swellow, Charizard, and Butterfree. While it does compound to the a team's Rock-type weakness, Torkoal still gets the job done and further supports the above Pokemon by also being capable of clearing the path of things that beat them, such as getting rid of Probopass in Articuno and Altaria's case and Rock-type Pokemon such as Golem and Regirock in Charizard and Swellow's case.</p>
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    Please could you post saying what parts (if any) of melvni's check you implemented, or if you've had a chance to look at it? Will GP once done :)
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    Ok I implemented a big portion of melvni's check. This is looking forward to another GP soon.
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    name: SMASHKOAL (Offensive Rapid Spin)
    move 1: Shell Smash
    move 2: Rapid Spin
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Earth Power / Hidden Power Grass
    item: White Herb
    ability: Shell Armor
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Move over, Raphael, there is a new turtle in the sewers of Manhattan. With Cryogonal leaving the land of Neverused, Torkoal stands as one of the few remaining viable users of the coveted Rapid Spin in NU. Turned down and pushed aside due to its Stealth Rock weakness, a timorous Torkoal can finally come out of its shell and show the world what it has always been capable of. With Shell Smash and its good 70/140/70 defenses, it can set up and threaten all of the terrifying Ghost-type Pokemon that reside in NU such as Golurk, Haunter, Misdreavus, and Drifblim. While not all too important to Torkoal's role, Shell Armor allows Torkoal to set up and sweep more reliably as it doesn't have to fear critical hits. After a boost, Torkoal is capable of outpacing every Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier barring Haunter, who cannot switch into Torkoal's Fire Blast. With a Modest nature Torkoal hits an impressive 590 Special Attack and a good 278 Speed stat, which allow it to deal massive damage to anything outside of dedicated special walls that attempt to come in while outpacing a big portion of the metagame. However, it should be noted that it misses out on key base 80 and above Speed Pokemon such as Braviary, Sawk, and Rotom-A. Torkoal has two choices for its coverage move in Earth Power and Hidden Power Grass which allow it to hit specific types and targets. Earth Power hits Fire-type Pokemon, such as Emboar, Rapidash, and Flareon, while Hidden Power Grass hits Water-type Pokemon, such as Samurott, Gorebyss, Seismitoad, and provides a way to deal with the Alomomola + Amoonguss Regenerator core. Earth Power gets the nod over Hidden Power Grass as preventing Emboar from stopping your sweep is very important, and Earth Power still hits Water-type Pokemon neutrally and already gets excellent damage on Hidden Power Grass's targets.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Even though Torkoal still has fantastic 70/140 defenses, this set cannot be played the same way as the defensive Torkoal sets. Without any investment, powerful attackers, such as Choice Band Braviary and Emboar, can break through Torkoal without much residual damage needed. White Herb is the item of choice as it prevents Torkoal's defenses from being decreased once, allowing it to take powerful priority moves such as Absol's Sucker Punch considerably better than with any other item. While Torkoal's base 20 Speed stat is nothing to write home about, a Timid nature is actually very beneficial for Torkoal, as it lets it outspeed many key Pokemon that Modest does not, such as the key base 80 Speed Pokemon mentioned above. Timid Torkoal is still capable of OHKOing the most common Ghost-type Pokemon in the tier and makes up for the loss in power with the the ability to outspeed important Pokemon in the metagame. While Misdreavus can survive a +2 Fire Blast from Torkoal, thanks to its White Herb item and Misdreavus's lack of Special Attack investment, Torkoal is capable of getting off a second Shell Smash which allows it to cleanly OHKO standard Misdreavus with even a Timid nature. Without a boost Torkoal is capable of outpacing the standard Golem, Regirock, and Vileplume sets and hitting them with the appropriate move before they can retaliate. At +4, Modest Torkoal is almost guaranteed a sweep with Choice Scarf Pokemon out of the way as it outspeeds even Timid Electrode by a single point and can OHKO Lickilicky with Stealth Rock up. With a Timid nature, Torkoal even outspeeds Timid Scarf Rotom-A and still has enough power to trample through almost any Pokemon that stands in its way. Of course without Modest, Lickilicky, Hypno, and Grumpig can tank a single hit and either Thunder Wave Torkoal or hit it with Psychic against its -1 Special Defense stat. However, out of the Pokemon mentioned above only Lickilicky is common, and at +4 Torkoal is more than likely to sweep regardless.</p>

    <p>White Smoke could be used over Shell Armor so that stat dropping effects from attacks, such as Crunch and Psychic, don't waste Torkoal's White Herb. While uncommon, this is a possible scenario and a reason to use White Smoke over Shell Armor. Torkoal could use other items, such as a Life Orb or Flame Plate, to increase its damage output; however, preventing the drops in Defense and Special Defense is generally more important. The increase in power from these items don't help it OHKO Misdreavus at +2 either, so it's usually not worth it. Torkoal is a great partner for Pokemon in need of Rapid Spin support such as Articuno, Altaria, Rotom-A, Braviary, Swellow, Charizard, and Butterfree. While it does compound to a team's Rock-type weakness, Torkoal still gets the job done and further supports the above Pokemon by clearing the path of things that beat them, such as of Probopass, in Articuno and Altaria's case and Rock-type Pokemon, such as Golem and Regirock, in Charizard and Swellow's case.</p>


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    Thanks for the check Ogles, this is ready for Upload
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    I uploaded this. Great job!

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