Toxicroak (Placeholder)

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http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/toxicroak

[Overview]

  • Toxicroak's acceptable defensive stats, combined with Bulk Up and the rapid recovery afforded by Dry Skin and Drain Punch, make it very hard to take down.
  • Without a boost it's folding if it takes a hit.
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  • Overall, Toxicroak isn't very different. The game around it, though, is far kinder to it, with Politoed everywhere.
[SET]
name: Bulky Toxicroak
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Taunt/Substitute
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
ability: Dry Skin
evs: 244 HP/252 Atk/12 Def

Set Description:

  • Come in on something that you can set up on and set up. Taunt prevents most phazers from working. Substitute protects you from status.
  • Once Toxicroak is set up, you can't kill it in the rain.
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  • Speed investment isn't worth much; Toxicroak is plodding at best anyway
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[SET]
name: BaitCroak
move 1: Cross Chop
move 2: Stone Edge
move 3: Sucker Punch
move 4: X-Scissor
item: Choice Scarf
nature: Jolly
ability: Dry Skin
evs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe

Set Description:

  • Takes out enemy weather-inducers, which love to come in on Toxicroak
  • Dry Skin sucks for this purpose, but is essential to keep the bluff up
  • A little gimmicky, but used right will allow your real Rain sweepers to prosper
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[Team Options]
  • Politoed is vital to set up rain. Without rain, Toxicroak is just an average Fighting-type.
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[Optional Changes]

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[Counters]
  • Ninetales removes Toxicroak's beloved Rain and kills it dead with Special Fire attacks.
  • For that matter, Tyranitar or Hippowdon will kill off Toxicroak, as well.
  • Dragon Tail/Overhead Throw will work, if you can keep it from having another chance to set up.
  • And, of course, Psychic attacks will brutalize Toxicroak.
[Dream World]
  • Without Dry Skin, Toxicroak is nothing.
  • Poison Hand isn't useful anyway; it keeps you from inflicting a better status like Burn or Sleep.
 

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#2
You should add a Swords Dance set on when you get the chance, it was very effective last generation and it sees a lot of use this gen as well. Good luck!
 

Limewire

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You should add a Swords Dance set on when you get the chance, it was very effective last generation and it sees a lot of use this gen as well. Good luck!
Second this. Swords Dance/Drain Punch/Sucker Punch/Taunt worked wonderfully on my rain team. With a little modification, it can also counter rain teams as well.
 
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A Swords Dance set should be somewhere in the OP.

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Sucker Punch
move 4: Substitute / Stone Edge
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Adamant
ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

Personally, I think that's the best set for a Toxicroak. Tyranitar can't just come in and shit all over it, because only ScarfTar is going to be out-speeding, and Drain Punch is a OHKO through and through. Hippowdon is 2HKOed by +2 Drain Punch, so you have a chance to beat it. A 252 HP | 252 Def Ninetales is 2HKOed by +0 Drain Punch with Stealth Rock down, and seeing as no one actually uses Defense EVs on a Ninetales, you'll be sure to 2HKO with Drain Punch. Should be mentioned that Roobushin's most common attacks (Drain Punch/Mach Punch/Payback or Stone Edge) are resisted by Toxicroak, and even with mediocre Defenses, Dry Skin and Leftovers are really helping out there.
 
#6
Nasty Plot set deserves at least OC mention. Based on the last generation, something like

- Nasty Plot
- Vaccum Wave
- Dark Pulse
- Focus Blast or Sludge Bomb
 
#7
Second the NP set. Very surprising to Toxicroak's physical counters and STAB NP boosted Vacuum Wave can revenge kill many annoying threats.
 
#8
You could mention that Toxicroak's typing allows it to switch in on a few common attacks, namely Fighting, Bug, and (Stealth) Rock. He also resists Dark and Grass, so you could also mention that he has a nice defensive typing in general. Just a thought.
 
#9
All right. I'll test NP/Swords Dance sets tomorrow and get to work on revising this once I'm comfortable with Croak in the post-banning metagame.

Also, going to note that Tyranitar's only a counter to Bulk Up Toxicroak if it hasn't set up yet. A +1/+1 or better Croak can survive Tyranitar's attacks and OHKO back with Drain Punch before leaving to bring something else in.
 
#10
I just started playing PO on smogon's server and Toxicroak has been performing pretty well in this meta.

-immune to toxic
-absorbs toxic spikes
-water immunity, notable boiling water immunity
-loves the rain
-multiple priority options

I've been saving Toxicroak for late game sweeping once the dragons are gone unless there are toxic spikes on the field. This set has worked well:

Jolly with leftovers (252 Att, 252 Spd)
-substitue
-bulk up
-drain punch
-sucker punch

He lasts forever in the rain!

I plan on trying this mixed priority set to counter fast threats like Excadrill and Cloyster:

Rash with leftovers (252 Att, 252 Spd)
-substitute
-cheer up
-sucker punch
-vacuum wave
 
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