Two type move combos and their coverage

[X5Dragon]

Hello everyone,
We started this little research back at gamefaqs's black pokemon board and I'd thought maybe you could put it to better use somehow:


(Illustrated version in 2nd page)


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*Bold in "Resisted by" indicates most used
*Bold in "Most Notable Users" indicates STAB on both types



Unresisted due to ability (Turboblaze, Mold Breaker):

Dragon/Fire w/Turboblaze


Resisted by: None
Most Notable Users: Reshiram, Kyurem-W


Dragon/Fight w/Mold Breaker


Resisted by: None
Most Notable Users: Haxorus (Superpower, Brick Break, Low Kick)




Unresisted due to missing dual-type pokemon:

Ghost/Fighting:

Resisted by: (Normal/Ghost)
Most Notable Users: Gengar (Focus Blast), Reuniclus (Shadow Ball, Focus Blast)





Resisted by one pokemon due to ability (Scrappy):

Normal/Fighting w/Scrappy


Resisted by: (Wonder Guard Shedinja)
Most Notable users: Stoutland (Superpower)



Resisted by one pokemon:

Dragon/Fire


Resisted by: (Flash Fire Heatran)
Most Notable User: Garchomp (Fire Fang), Salamence (Fire Blast), Dragonite (Fire Pwnch)



Dragon/Fighting:

Resisted by: (Wonder Guard Shedinja)
Most Notable Users: Dragonite (Superpower)




Resisted by Less than Five Pokemon


Dark/Fighting:

Resisted by: (Toxicroak, Heracross)
Third Type Coverage: Psychic, Flying, Fire, Ground

Most Notable Users: Scrafty, Lucario, Zoroark, Conkeldurr, Hydreigon, Machamp



Dragon/Water:

Resisted by: (Empoleon, Shedinja, Ferrothorn)
Complete Coverage: Fire

Most Notable Users: Kingdra, Palkia, Latios, Hydreigon, Dragonite



Flying/Water:

Resisted by: (Lanturn, Empoleon, Rotom-W)
Third Type Coverage: Grass

Most Notable Users: Gyarados, Dragonite (Aqua Jet, Waterfall, Hurricane, Surf, etc.)



Dragon/Ground:

Resisted by: (Skarmory, Levitate Bronzong, Shedinja)
Third Type Coverage: Fire

Most Notable Users: Garchomp, Haxorus, Flygon, Salamence, Kyurem (Earth Power)



Flying/Fighting:

Resisted by: (Zapdos, Rotom-S, Thundurus, Emolga)
Third Type Coverage: Rock

Most Notable Users: Tornadus (Hammer Arm, Superpower), Thundrus (Focus Blast, Superpower)




Resisted by Less than Ten Pokemon


Dragon/Electric:

Resisted by: (Magnezone, Steelix, Shedinja, Excadrill, Ferrothorn)
Third Type Coverage: Fire

Most Notable User: Zekrom, Kyurem-B



Ground/Rock aka EdgeQuake:

Resisted by: (Flygon, Torterra, Virizion, Levitate Bronzong, Claydol, Breloom)
Third Type Coverage: Fire

Most Notable Users: Excadrill, Landorus, Aerodactyl, Rhyperior, Golem, Onix, Dugtrio



Rock/Fighting:

Resisted by: (Claydol, Gallade, Golurk, Medicham, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Toxicroak)
Third Coverage Type: Ground

Most Notable Users: Terrakion, Mienshao (Stone Edge), Machamp, Virizion (Stone Edge)



Ice/Ground:

Resisted by: (Surskit, Levitate Bronzong, Shedinja, Rotom-W, Rotom-F, Rotom-H, Cryogonal)
Third Type Coverage: Ghost

Most Notable Users: Mamoswine, Donphan (Ice Shard), Kyurem (Earth Power)



Ice/Electric aka BoltBeam:

Resisted by: (Magnezone, Volt Absorb Lanturn, Shedinja, Rotom-F, Rotom-H, Thick Fat Mamoswine, Lightning Rod Seaking)
Third Type Coverage: Fire

Most Notable Users: Starmie, Rotom-F, Porygon2/Z, Thunderus, Lanturn, Zapdos, Electivire, Jolteon, Raikou, Genesect, any Electric-type that runs HP Ice



Normal/Ground:

Resisted by: (Drifblim, Mismagius, Gengar, Aerodactyl, Skarmory, Bronzong, Rotom-S)
Third Coverage Type: Fire

Most Notable User: Excadrill (Frustration)



Normal/Water:

Resisted by: (Jellicent, Empoleon, Ferrothorn, Shedinja, Storm Drain Cradily, Dialga, Giratina)
Third Coverage Type: Ground

Most Notable User: Bibarel, Samurott, Feraligatr



Dark/Ground:

Resisted by: (Shiftry, Cacturne, Honchcrow, Heracross, Breloom, Skarmory, Virizion, Hydreigon)
Third Type Coverage: Ice, Fire

Most Notable Users: Krookodile, Dugtrio (Sucker Punch)

 

[Cuiv]

Shedinja is immune to Normal/Water as well.

 

[fudgy]

rotom-heat form also resists bolt/beam

 

[X5Dragon]

Alright thanks guys, anymore suggestions is appreciated! I'm also making it easier to read by adding graphics and line breaks..

 

[kd24]

heatran and bibarel beat ghost/fire

 

[alamaster]

Thundurus and Emonga resist Flying/Ground too.

 

[NDenizen]

On the subject of "Resisted by less than 10 pokemon:", it might be worth highlighting the OU/UU pokemon that do resist the rarer type combos, since there is a likelihood their higher usage will lend to their resistances. That then helps with finding ways of dealing with those pokemon too, either with a third coverage move or team synergy in general. Maybe split that list into two, as well.

You could also add third coverage types?

(this is a tad subjective so apologies)

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Less than Five

Dark/Fighting: (Toxicroak, Heracross)
Third Type Coverage: Psychic, Flying, Fire*

Dragon/Water: (Empoleon, Shedinja, Ferrothorn)
Complete Coverage: Fire

Normal/Water: (Jellicent, Empoleon, Ferrothorn, Shedinja)

Dragon/Ground: (Skarmory, Levitate Bronzong, Shedinja)
Third Type Coverage: Fire

Dragon/Electric: (Magnezone, Steelix, Shedinja, Excadrill)
Third Type Coverage: Fire

Flying/Water: (Lanturn, Empoleon, Rotom-W)
Third Type Coverage: Grass

Less than Ten

Ice/Electric aka BoltBeam: (Magnezone, Lanturn, Shedinja, Rotom-F, Rotom-H)

Ice/Ground: (Surskit, Levitate Bronzong, Shedinja, Rotom-W, Rotom-F)
Third Type Coverage: Ghost

Flying/Fighting: (Zapdos, Rotom, Rotom-F, Thundurus, Emolga)
Third Type Coverage: Rock

Ghost/Fire: (Houndoom, Tyranitar, Sharpedo, Crawdaunt, Heatran, Bibarel)
Third Type Coverage: Fighting, Rock, Ground

Dark/Ground: (Shiftry, Cacturne, Honchcrow, Heracross, Breloom, Skarmory)
Third Type Coverage: Ice, Fire

Ground/Rock: (Flygon, Torterra, Virizion, Levitate Bronzong, Claydol, Breloom)

Ice/Fighting: (Chandelure, Volcarona, Jellicent, Froslass, Slowbro, Slowking, Tentacruel, Qwilfish)
Third Type Coverage: Ground, Rock

Flying/Ground: (Zapdos, Aerodactyl, Skarmory, Bronzong, Rotom, Solrock, Lunatone, Rotom-M, Rotom-H, Rotom-W)
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Not sure if that helps.

 

[-Tsunami-]

Just wondering, on Flying/Ground, what is Rotom-M?
Rotom-W and Rotom-F resist it too.

Also, Cradily resists Water/Normal because of Storm Drain.

 

[StallMandibuzz]

Ferrothorn resists both Dragon and Electric too.

 

[Stellar]

Thick Fat Mamoswine and Lightningrod Seaking resist Electric/Ice.

 

[Charizard92]

http://masara.byethost15.com/SilverlightDmgCalcTestPage.html

Notice in the bottom right hand corner of that web page, theres a "coverage calculator"

put the move combos in that you want, and it'll show what resists it.

EDIT: it doesn't account for all abilities, but the well known ones it does (it gets lanturn, but not thick fat mamo, as well as wonder guard)

Also, I think shedinja should be left out for resisting a tonne of two-type combos.

 

[WinstonShnozwick]

I've found that Dark + Fire (from mons like hydriegon and zoroark) is quite a potent combo. Dark hits many things neutrally, as well as psychic and ghost super. And fire hits the things that resist dark like steel.

 

[Charizard92]

I've found that Dark + Fire (from mons like hydriegon and zoroark) is quite a potent combo. Dark hits many things neutrally, as well as psychic and ghost super. And fire hits the things that resist dark like steel.

still resisted by heatran, but both those mons get focus blast anyway.

 

[WinstonShnozwick]

Focus blast also deals with Tyranitar and Houndoom which both resist Dark+Fire as well.

 

[blarajan]

Just wondering, on Flying/Ground, what is Rotom-M?
Rotom-W and Rotom-F resist it too.

Also, Cradily resists Water/Normal because of Storm Drain.

Rotom-M is every Rotom forme. Though the standard for that is Rotom-A.

 

[Thorhammer]

Rotom-C doesn't resist Flying/Ground.

 

[atsync]

Are we listing Ubers too? Because Dialga and Giratina both resist Normal/Water, but aren't listed.

 

[sax king]

Rock/Fighting:

Claydol, Gallade, Golurk, Medicham, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Toxicroak

 

[ARandomDude]

Notable users (list is by no means complete:

Ghost/Fighting:
Gengar

Dragon/Fire:
Reshiram

Dragon/Fighting:
?

Dark/Fighting:
That dude in LC that got a lot of attention I forget the name

Dragon/Water:
Kingdra, Palkia

Normal/Water:
Bibarel (lol)

Dragon/Ground:
Garchomp

Dragon/Electric:
Zekrom

Flying/Water:
Gyarados (?)

Ice/Electric:
Starmie, Rotom-F

Ice/Ground:
Mamoswine

Flying/Fighting:
?

Ghost/Fire:
?

Dark/Ground:
Krookodile

Ground/Rock:
A bunch

Ice/Fighting:
?

Flying/Ground:
Gliscor

By the way, no Fighting/Rock?

 

[NijaSkills]

I'll add a few, off the top of my head. Some are really only notable in lower tiers.

Notable users (list is by no means complete:

Ghost/Fighting:
Gengar, Mismagius, Reuniclus

Dragon/Fire:
Reshiram, Garchomp (Fire Fang), Salamence

Dragon/Fighting:
? Haxorus (Brick Break)

Dark/Fighting:
That dude in LC that got a lot of attention I forget the name (Scraggy)
Scrafty, Lucario, Zoroark, Conkeldurr, Hydreigon, Machamp

Dragon/Water:
Kingdra, Palkia, Latios, Hydreigon (Surf)

Normal/Water:
Bibarel (lol)

Dragon/Ground:
Garchomp, Haxorus, Flygon, Salamence

Dragon/Electric:
Zekrom

Flying/Water:
Gyarados (?)

Ice/Electric:
Starmie, Rotom-F, Porygon2/Z, Thunderus, Lanturn, Zapdos, Electivire, Jolteon, Raikou, any Electric-type that runs HP Ice

Ice/Ground:
Mamoswine, Donphan

Flying/Fighting:
? Tornadus

Ghost/Fire:
? Chandelure

Dark/Ground:
Krookodile, Dugtrio (Sucker Punch)

Ground/Rock:
A bunch, notably Excadrill, Landorus, Aerodactyl, Rhyperior, Dugtrio

Ice/Fighting:
? Weavile, Mienshao (HP Ice), Virizion

Flying/Ground:
Gliscor

By the way, no Fighting/Rock?

Fighting/Rock:
Terrakion, Mienshao (Stone Edge), Machamp, Virizion (Stone Edge)

 

[Mygavolt]

Starmie, Victini, Shedinja, and Thick Fat Grumpig also resist Ice+Fight; therefore, it does not have less than 10 resistances.

Also, Scrappy Normal+Fight is unresisted bar Shedinja. I'm just saying.

 

[Metal Bagon]

For someone who is relatively new to smogon, this is excelent.

 

[Jaetheho]

i SWEAR there was a thread just like this.

 

[Box]

Looking forward to its completion

 

[Chieliee]

i SWEAR there was a thread just like this.

you mean 3 more threads