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Tyranitar (Analysis)

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  1. theamericandream38

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    Tyranitar
    [Overview]

    <p>Tyranitar is one of the most popular Pokemon in the VGC 2012 metagame, and with good reason. It has very impressive stats, the best of which is its massive base 134 Attack. With a base Speed of only 61, however, it is one of the slower Pokemon in the VGC 2012 metagame. This can be taken advantage of by providing it with Trick Room support, or simply by using it to underspeed opposing weather Pokemon. Tyranitar's ability Sand Stream initiates a sandstorm whenever Tyranitar enters the battlefield; when two weather inducers are sent out at the same time (the beginning of the battle, for example), the slower Pokemon's weather is what affects the field. Tyranitar's Rock / Dark typing gives it two very useful STAB attacks, but also provides it with a horrific 4x weakness to Fighting-type moves, a very popular attack type in the VGC 2012 metagame. Furthermore, Tyranitar is weak to Ground-, Water-, and Grass-type moves, all of which are common in the metagame as well. Thankfully, Tyranitar's weakness to Water- and Grass-type attacks is to a certain extent offset by the Special Defense boost that Rock-types receive during a sandstorm. </p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Crunch
    move 2: Rock Slide
    move 3: Low Kick
    move 4: Protect
    item: Chople Berry / Focus Sash
    nature: Brave
    ability: Sand Stream
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set takes advantage of Tyranitar's low Speed by using a Speed-reducing nature and a 0 Speed IV, allowing it to take control of the weather,<comma> as well as and take advantage of Trick Room. Crunch and Rock Slide are obligatory on every Tyranitar set, as they are the its strongest STAB moves. Tyranitar can choose between any number of attacks for its third move, as it has a very wide movepool. Low Kick is generally preferred, as it does heavy damage to the many Steel-types that resist Rock Slide and Crunch.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs listed maximize Tyranitar's HP so that it can take both special and physical hits well. However, they do not enable Tyranitar to always survive a Close Combat from a max Attack Adamant Hitmontop even should Tyranitar be holding a Chople Berry. You may choose to invest 212 EVs into HP to enable Tyranitar to survive the aforementioned hit, but no amount of investment will allow Chople Berry Tyranitar to survive Life Orb Hitmontop's Close Combat with surety. Lastly, it should be noted that Tyranitar is overwhelmingly unlikely to survive a similar assault from Fighting Gem Hitmontop.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately, Tyranitar doesn't have many options to deal with opposing Fighting-type Pokemon, which are the biggest threat to it. As such, good teammates for Tyranitar include Pokemon who can comfortably take on Fighting-types, such as Cresselia and Gyarados. Other good teammates for Tyranitar are Pokemon that can take advantage of the sandstorm that Tyranitar summons. The best of these Pokemon are Garchomp, Excadrill, and Landorus, but there are other examples as well. Teammates Pokemon that can eliminate a potential threat to Tyranitar quickly, such as Latios and Porygon-Z, also make great teammates for Tyranitar. If you are looking to provide Tyranitar with Trick Room support, Slowking, Eviolite Dusclops, and Dusknoir are among the best options. These Pokemon can cover Tyranitar's weakness to Fighting-type attackers by hitting them hard with STAB Psychic or Scald, or burning them with Will-O-Wisp, weakening them greatly. The three also have strong defenses and resist or are immune to many of the common attacks directed at Tyranitar, making them excellent teammates. </p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Tyranitar has a vast movepool, but many of its moves are not viable in VGC 2012. If your team relies heavily on sandstorm being set up, Tyranitar can hold Iron Ball instead of one of the recommended items to lower its Speed, and take advantage of it by running the move Fling. With an Iron Ball, Fling becomes an immensely powerful 130 Base Power Dark-type move, which is further boosted by STAB. One problem with this strategy is that it can only be pulled off once. Additionally, if the target uses Protect, the Iron Ball is used up and the strategy is rendered useless. In place of Low Kick, Tyranitar can instead use a support move, such as Taunt or Thunder Wave. Taunt can be used to mess with Trick Room teams, but Tyranitar itself generally fares well in Trick Room due to its low Speed. Tyranitar also has a wide selection of powerful special attacks, such as..., but its base 95 Special Attack pales in comparison to its base 134 Attack stat. Stone Edge can be used in place of Rock Slide, but its low accuracy makes it less reliable, and unlike Rock Slide, it can also be redirected by Follow Me and Rage Powder. Nonetheless, one big advantage of Stone Edge is its ability to easily 2HKO Gyarados, which is a big threat to Tyranitar. A number of other moves, such as Iron Head and Aqua Tail, can be run, but are not recommended due to poor type coverage. If you do not care about initiating a sandstorm, or would rather take better advantage of one of your teammate's moves, such as Tailwind or Icy Wind), you can use an Adamant nature and a 31 Speed IV. Another option is utilizing 252 Speed EVs and a Jolly nature along with Choice Scarf, which can catch your opponents off guard. This opens up Tyranitar to being OHKOed by any number of attacks, but the added speed can be helpful in some situations. In particular, Tyranitar can outspeed and OHKO Latios and Thundurus, which may pose a threat to Tyranitar and its teammates.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As stated before, Fighting-type Pokemon are the bane of Tyranitar's existence. They are able to deal massive amounts of damage to Tyranitar while taking relatively little damage in return. Pokemon with the Intimidate ability also fares well against Tyranitar, as Tyranitar almost always relies on physical attacks to deal damage. Hitmontop and Arcanine are particularly threatening because they pose an imminent threat to Tyranitar, but even Salamence and Gyarados can be switched in relatively safely, as neither is OHKOed by Rock Slide after Intimidate. Other Pokemon that can wall Tyranitar well and dish out heavy damage to it include most Steel-types, such as Metagross and Ferrothorn. </p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Tyranitar receives a very interesting ability from the Dream World: Unnerve. This ability prevents opponents from using their held Berries, and therefore has powerful synergy with Pokemon such as Smeargle, Amoonguss, and Parasect, who rely on inflicting status on opponents. It can also be used to negate type-resisting berries, such as Chople Berry and Wacan Berry, which can disrupt your opponent's damage calculations and swing the battle in your favor. Both Sand Stream and Unnerve are very powerful abilities, and each have their uses on Tyranitar. Nevertheless, be aware that your opponent will likely know what ability you are using, as Sand Stream causes a sandstorm to appear when Tyranitar enters the battlefield, so if this does not happen, the opponent will be tipped off to the fact that your Tyranitar has Unnerve.</p>
  2. Alakapimp

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    You should mention Iron Ball Fling.

    You have a few formatting issues. There should be spaces on each side of the slashes, and you should not have a parenthetical saying what the nature does.

    You have too many slashes in the third slot, pick a fighting attack, don't list both. I wouldn't slash quake there at all.

    Offenisve synergy, and help through offense, is usually more potent that defensive. It is easier to able to just protect with ttar and ko the mon threatening ttar, than it is to switch ttar out to a gyarados or cresselia to take the fighting attack. Based on that, talk about teammates like latios that are good.

    I wouldn't even mention Dragon Dance in Other Options, it is terrifically bad.

    Checks and Counters needs more meat, talk about things that Tyranitar trouble offensively and definsively, don't just say fighting types. Also, don't just say intimidate, that is pretty lame. Give a specific Pokemon like intimidate Hitmontop which is an amazing counter, but not everything with intimidate is a counter. Most Salamence probably wouldn't like to see a ttar.
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    4 blizzards will never hit in a row in the sand. abomasnow will get koed by rock slide before that. please change evs to 252 hp / 252 attack / 4 spd.

    move thunder wave to OO, probably taunt too. tyranitar doesnt mind trick room or togekiss etc too much, and usually just attacks the pokemon.

    change name to standard or physical attacker, tyranitar can be used on sand teams or just by itself.

    will stamp after changes :D
  4. theamericandream38

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    Someone has obviously never played a game on PO (seriously though, thanks for the fixes =D)
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    No mention of eq? Most of the time ttar is paired with a flier/levitator. It's also a option for those who don't have access to the 4th gen move tutors.
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    Low Kick is superior in almost every way to Earthquake outside of hitting Metagross slightly harder and almost OHKOing Toxicroak, because it doesn't hit teammates and has the equivalent of 75 BP as opposed to Low Kick's 120 BP against most opponents. Low Kick also OHKOes Terrakion, which is incredibly useful considering Terrakion otherwise completely destroys Tyranitar. With Chople or Sash and Low Kick, Tyranitar can get a surprise KO on Terrakion. Low Kick also 2HKOes or does really good damage to most Ferrothorn, while Earthquake does very little.
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    This is especially true since if you are running ttar you probably have some other quakers.
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    FLING + DARK GEM?!?!?!


    kidding

    change ev order to hp / atk / spd and add adamant nature in OO.
    QC 1 / 2 nice
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    Most Gyarados actually avoid a 2HKO from Rock Slide due to Intimidate, and can outspeed and 2HKO in return with Waterfall, so I'd say Gyarados is more of a check to Tyranitar than the other way around.
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    A little late but I've seen a lot of scarftars on GBU and it was pretty effective. I think a set or OO is worth looking into.
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    Which is why I included it in that section as such (alaka was the one being dumb)...

    It's actually quite terrible. Unless you run Jolly you are still getting outsped by max speed Terrakion, and you get smashed by Mach Punch from the second most common Pokemon in the metagame, Hitmontop.
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    I've had good results with it, its basically the same thing as in singles out speeding Lati@s, Genies, everything under 120 base speed is helpful , has an element of surprise and the fast Rock Slide is great. You can always switch out or bench it if they have Hitmontop and even with Life Orb, Technician, and max attack, Mach Punch wont KO Tyranitar with Intimidate support.
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    That's assuming they aren't running a +Speed nature, and I don't really know why they wouldn't be (especially in the case of Latios, as it needs to speed tie with other Latios). The only thing relevant is that it has the element of surprise, but really the Pokemon you listed can't do much to Tyranitar anyway, so them going before Tyranitar is pretty irrelevant. Fast Rock Slide is only great because PO's RNG is retarded and flinches way more than it should. I do not think recommending a set where the plan is "LOL I HOPE I GET LUCKY" is a good thing for a website dedicated to improving the battling skills of the readers.
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    I was talking about Jolly Tyranitar like the singles set on site, it hardly out speeds anything without a plus speed nature. While Tyranitar can usually survive a hit from say latios or azelf, its team mate may not be able to and its nice to avoid taking a hit. Being fast with Rock Slide isn't the point of the set but having a fast flinch is certainly welcome.
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    Posting to agree that Scarf Tyranitar is quite effective even though I've not yet been flinched by a single one; the surprise factor in itself is extremely effective, but its fast and strong enough to make an excellent set anyway. Its ability to get a surprise quick KO on many common Pokemon, including the Lati twins and Thundurus (sand completes the KO), and do a ton to Terrakion with Low Kick, makes the surprise factor very effective. It's definitely worthy of OO.

    In OO, mention that Stone Edge gets an easy 2HKO versus Gyara which is pretty huge and kind of the reason to use it at all over Rock Slide, since if your partner has a spread attack, it can usually complete the KO, which is good since Gyarados is really annoying, for Tyranitar especially.
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    Let's revisit teammates. You still have Salamence listed as a team mate, but it doesn't help ttar at all other than intimidate. Yes it has a fighting resistance, but you aren't gonna want to switch it in, it is not bulky and will not appreciate whatever spread attacks it may take coming in. It doesn't have a Super Effective STAB on fighting-types, unless you are going to run Aerial Ace, which you probably aren't.

    Teammates is probably one of the more important aspects of the analysis, make sure you give it some thought and don't just throw down Pokemon that resist the type the Pokemon the analysis is about is weak to.
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    Slowking has great bulk, STAB Psychic and STAB Scald for Fighting- and Ground-types that threaten Tyranitar, and lastly, Trick Room, allowing Tyranitar to outspeed most of its opposition. I think Slowking would be great.

    Dusclops, with Evolite, is immune to Fighting-type attacks, and takes little damage from Steel- and Bug-type attacks. Able to set up Trick Room, and Will-O-Wisp physical threats. If you're using Rock Slide, Dusclops can use Helping Hand to further boost its damage.
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    Thanks Solace =D (for this and ferrothorn)
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    Unnerve Larvitar was released today via the Dream World. What would you recommend for a non-Sand Stream Tyranitar?
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    for unnerve tyranitar, earthquake, fire fang, or brick break are the next best 'coverage moves' in line i guess. the dream world section can be merged with OO (or possible become a new set). also

    unnerve message pops up when sent out._.
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    Tyranitar
    [Overview]

    <p>Tyranitar is one of the most popular Pokemon in the VGC 2012 metagame, and with good reason. It has very high base stats, highlighted by a massive base 134 base attack Attack. It is, however, one of the slower Pokemon in the VGC 2012 metagame with a base speed of only 61 only a 61 base Speed stat. This can be taken advantage of by using Trick Room, or simply to underspeed be slower than opposing weather Pokemon. Tyranitar's abliity ability Sand Stream causes a Sandstorm sandstorm to occur whenever Tyranitar enters the battlefield. When two Pokemon with abiliites abilities that change the battlefield's weather are sent out at the same time (the beginning of the battle, for example), the slower Pokemon's ability triggers last and thus their that weather is what affects the field. Tyranitar's typing (Rock/Dark) gives it two very useful STAB types, but it also is it's its primary weakness. With a 4x weakness to Fighting-type attacks, a very popular attack type in the VGC 2012 metagame, one has to be careful when deciding to use Tyranitar on their team,[add comma] and how to play with it. It is also weak to Ground-[add hyphen], Water-[add hyphen], and Grass-type moves, all of which are common in the metagame as well. Thankfully, the weakness to Water-[add hyphen] and Grass-[add hyphen]types attacks is offset by the Special Defense boost that Rock-types receive during a Sandstorm sandstorm.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Crunch
    move 2: Rock Slide
    move 3: Low Kick
    move 4: Protect
    item: Chople Berry[space]/[space]Focus Sash
    nature: Brave
    ability: Sand Stream
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set takes advantage of the aforementioned low speed of Tyranitar by using a nature that hinders -[remove hyphen]Speed nature and a 0 speed Speed IVs. This allows you to control the weather and take advantage of Trick Room. Crunch and Rock Slide are obligatory on every Tyranitar set, as they are the strongest STAB moves that it has to choose from. The third move could be any number sort of attacks move, as Tyranitar has a very versatile movepool. Low Kick is generally preferred, as it hits many of the Pokemon that resist Rock Slide and Crunch very hard.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs listed maximize Tyranitar's HP so that it can take both special and physical hits well. They do not, however, allow Tyranitar to always survive a Close Combat from a max Attack (+Atk nature) Hitmontop when Tyranitar has a Chople Berry.[add period], which is popular in the VGC 2012 metagame. The lowest amount of HP EVs necessary to survive that hit 10-0% of the time is 212.[remove period],[add comma] while an An investment into Defense will lower the necessary amount of HP EVs. It is not possible for Chople Berry Tyranitar to survive a Close Combat from max Attack Hitmontop with Life Orb 100% of the time (OHKOs 7.69% of the time with 252 HP[space]/[space]252 Def EVs), and it can only survive the same hit when the Htimontop Hitmontop has Fighting Gem 12.83% of the time.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately, Tyranitar doesn't have many options to deal with opposing Fighting-type Pokemon, which are the biggest threat to Tyranitar it. As such, good teammates for Tyranitar include Pokemon who are strong against Fighting-types, such as Cresselia and Gyarados. Other good teammates for Tyranitar are Pokemon that can take advantage of the Sandstorm sandstorm that Tyranitar brings with it when it enters the battlefield. The best of these Pokemon are Garchomp, Excadrill, and Landorus, but there are other examples as well. Teammates that can eliminate the threats to Tyranitar quickly, such as Latios and Porygon-Z, are also good for Tyranitar. If you are looking to set up Trick Room alongside Tyranitar, Slowking and Dusclops (with Evolite)/[space]Dusknoir are among the best options. Both Pokemon can support Tyranitar's weaknesses by either hitting the offenders hard with a STAB Psychic or Scald or burning them and weakening them greatly with Will-o-Wisp Will-O-Wisp. Both Pokemon also have strong defenses and resist or are immune to many of the common attacks that may be directed at Tyranitar, making them excellent teammates. </p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Tyranitar has a vast movepool, but many of it's its moves are not viable for the VGC 2012 metagame. If your team relies heavily on Sandstorm sandstorm being set up, Tyranitar can hold Iron Ball instead of one of the recommended items,[add comma] and use Fling in one of your its move slots moveslots. Flinging an Iron Ball has a base power of 130, plus Fling and it is a Dark-type attack so,[add comma] Tyranitar receives a STAB bonus when using it. One problem with this strategy is that if the target uses Protect, the Iron Ball is used up and you cannot use Fling again for the rest of the battle. In place of Low Kick, Tyranitar can use a support move instead,[add comma] such as Taunt or Thunder Wave. Taunt can be used against Trick Room teams, although Tyranitar itself generally fares well in Trick Room due to it's its low Speed. Tyranitar also has a wide selection of powerful Special Attacks, but it's its base 95 Special Attack pales in comparison to it's its base 134 Attack stat. Stone Edge can be used in place of Rock Slide, but it's its low accuracy makes it even more unreliable than Rock Slide,[add comma] and it can be redirected by Follow Me and Rage Powder,[add comma] unlike Rock Slide. The main advantage of Stone Edge is that it can easily 2HKO Gyarados, which is a big threat to Tyranitar. A number of other moves such as Iron Head and Aqua Tail are not recommended because their type coverage is poor and incompatible with Tyranitar's most common moves. If you do not care about your weather having priority (or want to take better advantage of one of your teammate's moves, such as Tailwind or Icy Wind), you can use an Adamant nature and a 31 Speed IVs. Another option is to use max speed Speed (and Jolly nature) with Choice Scarf, which can catch your opponent's off guard. This,[add comma] however,[add comma] opens Tyranitar up Tyranitar to being OHKO'd OHKOed by any number of attacks, but the added speed Speed can be helpful in some situations.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As stated before, Fighting-types Pokemon are the bane of Tyranitar's existence. They are able to deal Tyranitar massive amounts of damage to Tyrnaitar, and do not fear it at all. while facing relatively little threat in return. Any Pokemon with Intimidate also fares well against Tyranitar, as it almost always relies on physical attacks to deal damage. Some Pokemon, such as Hitmontop or Arcanine, are even more threating threatening because they pose an imminent threat immediate obstacle to Tyranitar, but even Salamence and Gyarados can be switched in relatively safely;[add semicolon] (neither is OHKO'd OHKOed by Tyranitar's Rock Slide after Intimidate, and both pose a significant threat to Tyranitar). Other Pokemon that can wall Tyranitar well,[add comma] as well as and dish out heavy damage to it,[add comma] include most Steel-types,[remove comma] such as Metagross and Ferrothorn. </p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Tyranitar receives a very interesting ability from the Dream World, Unnerve. This ability makes it so that opposing Pokemon's berries cannot be used. This has powerful synergy with a Pokemon that relies on inducing statii on your opponent's Pokemon, such as Smeargle, Amoonguss, or Parasect. It can also be used to negate type-resisting berries such as Chople Berry and Wacan Berry. This can disrupt your opponent's damage calculations and swing the battle in your favor. Both Sand Stream and Unnerve are very powerful abilities, and each have their uses on Tyranitar. Be aware that your opponent will likely know what abliity you are using, as Sand Stream causes a Sandstorm to appear when Tyranitar enters the battlefield, so if this does not happen the opponent will know that you are using Unnerve (unless they are anware of what Tyranitar's other ability is).</p>(anything you deem worth mentioning can be moved to Other Options. The reason for this is that DW Larvitar is released.)
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