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Ubers hyper offense!

Discussion in 'BW Other Teams' started by evillocke, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. evillocke

    evillocke

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    [​IMG] GENESECT ROCKS.





    Welcome to my second RMT on smogon. Today I want you to rate a uber team I use. I have had decent sucess with this team. I peaked 1610 with this team on PS and plan to get further.


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    Tyranitar @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 200 Atk / 56 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Lonely Nature
    - Crunch
    - Stealth Rock
    - Fire Blast
    - Low Kick

    I will admit. This is not my set. However, this set fits with my team very well, and it does great. Focus sash is weird, but it will live through: Superpowers, Draco meteors, Outrages, and more. This way it can set up rocks. Crunch is STAB. Fire blast is for other things (Fuck you Genesect) . Low kick is better than it seems, dealing decent damage to Groudon, Arceus, and Dialga. Sand stream fucks sashers.

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    Latios (M) @ Soul Dew
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Thunder
    - Surf
    - Grass Knot

    Deoxys-Speed used to be here. He was originally a screen supporter/taunter. However, he was dead weight besides that. Oiawesome suggested CM latias, and I thought over it. Then I came to the conclusion of All-out attacker Latios! Soul Dew is a choice specs boost, but you can still switch moves! The EV's help focus on speed and power. Thunder is used over Thunderbolt because Kyogre is so fucking common. Surf gets boost from rain. Dragon pulse for a spammable, strong, move. And grass knot hits Groudon.

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    Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunder
    - Water Spout
    - Surf

    Kyogre gives priceless rain support to this team. The choice scarf version is amazing. I use timid over modest for the extra speed. Ice beam hits all those pesky dragons for 4x damage. Thunder is just to say, Fuck you, I'm the real whale. Water spout is a spammable move that does a shitload of damage when at full health, and even kills resists. Surf is for a strong water stab I can use when not at full health.



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    Genesect @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Download
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk
    Hasty Nature
    - U-turn
    - Ice Beam
    - Iron Head
    - Explosion

    Omastar sucks. What I was thinking, I don't know. When it comes to killing, we have this guy. The mixed scarf set RULES. Hasty makes him fast. U-turn kills tons of things at +1 and provides GREAT momentum. Ice beam hits dragons like Ray hard, but I am thinking of changing to T-bolt. Iron head is STAB, and hits arc-ghost and the like. Finally, explosion lets it go off with a BANG.

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    Arceus @ Silk Scarf
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd/ 4HP
    Jolly Nature
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Shadow Claw
    - Swords Dance
    - Brick Break

    Ekiller set. Espeed is main stab. Shadow claw hits ghosts. Swords dance ups attack. Brick break for steels. Do I REALLY need to explain this set? This thing can and will revenge low health kyogres.

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    Mewtwo @ Life Orb
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Aura Sphere
    - Calm Mind
    - Psystrike
    - Ice Beam

    Excadrill was originally here to abuse the sand. However, Excadrill was not fast or strong enough for this hyper offense team. I was mulling over my choices...and came to mewtwo! The Ev's maximise killing power. Timid for more speed. Aura sphere hits Darkrai and Dialga extremely hard. Thunder says fuck Whales. Psystrike is spammable and extremely strong. Ice beam hits dragons. Mewtwo has also swept teams before, something excadrill could never hope to accomplish.

    Well, that's it. Rate, hate, and steal please! Luvdisc if you like!

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    Tyranitar @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 200 Atk / 56 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Lonely Nature
    - Crunch
    - Stealth Rock
    - Fire Blast
    - Low Kick

    Latios (M) @ Soul Dew
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Thunder
    - Surf
    - Grass Knot

    Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunder
    - Water Spout
    - Surf

    Omastar @ Life Orb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Modest Nature
    - Earth Power
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Shell Smash

    Arceus @ Silk Scarf
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd/ 4HP
    Jolly Nature
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Shadow Claw
    - Swords Dance
    - Brick Break

    Mewtwo @ Life Orb
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Aura Sphere
    - Thunder
    - Psystrike
    - Fire Blast

  2. evillocke

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    To be updated.

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    Offensive Threats

    Tier 1

    [​IMG] Arceus

    • Extreme Killer (Swords Dance) - My own can handle it.
    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Fighting

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Ghost

    • Calm Mind - Ogre beats it
    • Swords Dance - My Ekiller beats it.

    [​IMG] Arceus-Ground

    • Calm Mind -
    • Swords Dance -

    [​IMG] Darkrai

    • Special Sweeper - Ttar takes the sleep, then kill it with Ogre.
    • Choice Scarf - Ogre
    • Double Status - See special sweeper

    [​IMG] Dialga

    • Special Attacker -
    • Mixed -
    • Bulk Up + RestTalk -
    • Choice Scarf - Usually Latios.

    [​IMG] Groudon

    • Rock Polish - Ogre
    • Paradancer -Oh man. This is bad. I have to hope ogre can get in before its too late.
    • Choice Band -
    • Offensive Stealth Rock -

    [​IMG] Ho-Oh

    • Tank -
    • Physical Sweeper -
    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Kyogre

    • Choice Scarf -
    • Choice Specs -
    • Calm Mind + 3 Attacks -
    • Mono-Attacker -
    • Thunder Wave -
    • SubCM - My Ogre.
    • ChestoRest -

    [​IMG] Kyurem-W

    • Choice Specs -
    • Choice-less -
    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Latias

    • Offensive Pivot -
    • Stallbreaker -
    • All-Out Special Attacker -

    [​IMG] Latios

    • Calm Mind -
    • All-Out Special Attacker -
    • Special Dragon Dance -

    [​IMG] Mewtwo

    • Psycho Killer -
    • Bulky Attacker -
    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Palkia

    • Choice Scarf -
    • Specially Based Mix -
    • Choice Specs -
    • Blissey Boxer -
    • Physically Based Mix -

    [​IMG] Rayquaza

    • Dragon Dance -
    • Mixed Attacker -
    • Mixed Dancer -
    • Swords Dance -
    • Choice Scarf -
    • Choice Band -

    Tier 2

    [​IMG] Arceus-Dark

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Dragon

    • Swords Dance -
    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Electric

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Steel

    • Calm Mind -
    • Swords Dance -
    • Cosmic Power -

    [​IMG] Blaziken

    • Swords Dance -

    [​IMG] Deoxys-A

    • Life Orb -
    • Focus Sash Attacker -

    [​IMG] Excadrill

    • Bulky -
    • Offensive -

    [​IMG] Garchomp

    • Choice Scarf -
    • Swords Dance -
    • Choice Band -
    • Substitute + Swords Dance -

    [​IMG] Genesect

    • Specially Based Choice Scarf -
    • Physically Based Choice Scarf -
    • Specially Based Attacker -
    • Physically Based Attacker -
    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Giratina-O

    • Mixed Attacker -
    • Calm Mind -
    • Sleeping Beauty (Mono-Attacker) -
    • Substitute Shuffler -

    [​IMG] Kabutops

    • Cleaner -
    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Kingdra

    • Mixed Attacker -
    • Dragon Dance -
    • Choice Specs -

    [​IMG] Kyurem-B

    • Mixed -
    • Mixed Hone Claws -
    • Choice Band -
    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Mamoswine

    • Physical Attacker -

    [​IMG] Reshiram

    • Choice Specs -
    • Choice Scarf -
    • Substitute -
    • Flame Charge -
    • Sunny Day -

    [​IMG] Salamence

    • Choice Scarf -
    • Dragon Dance -

    [​IMG] Shaymin-S

    • SubSeed -
    • Choice Scarf -
    • Special Sweeper -
    • Choice Specs -

    [​IMG] Terrakion

    • Choice Scarf -
    • Double Dancer -
    • Choice Band -
    • Substitute + Swords Dance -

    [​IMG] Tyranitar

    • Tank -
    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Zekrom

    • Mixed -
    • Choice Band -
    • Choice Scarf -
    • Substitute + Hone Claws -

    Tier 3

    [​IMG] Arceus-Fire

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Grass

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Ice

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Psychic

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Rock

    • Mono-Attacker -
    • Offensive Calm Mind -
    • Swords Dance -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Water

    • Swords Dance -
    • Offensive Calm Mind -
    • Defensive Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Cloyster

    • Shell Smash -

    [​IMG] Heatran

    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Giratina

    • Boosting Tank -
    • Chesto Rest -

    [​IMG] Gorebyss

    • Smash Pass -

    [​IMG] Jirachi

    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Landorus

    • Swords Dance -
    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Landorus-T

    • SubSD -
    • Double Dancer -
    • Choice Band -

    Lugia

    • Offensive Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Magnezone

    • SubCharge -
    • Choice Specs -
    • Dual Screens -

    [​IMG] Manaphy

    • Calm Mind -
    • Tail Glow -

    [​IMG] Metagross

    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Scizor

    • Choice Band -
    • Swords Dance -
    • Specially Defensive -

    [​IMG] Thundurus

    • Prankster -
    • Nasty Plot -

    [​IMG] Tornadus-T

    • All-Out Attacker -
    • Choice Specs -

    [​IMG] Venusaur

    • Special Growth -
    • Mixed Growth -

    Tier 4

    [​IMG] Abomasnow

    • Tank -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Bug

    • Calm Mind -
    • Swords Dance -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Flying

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Arceus-Poison

    • Calm Mind -

    [​IMG] Bisharp

    • Swords Dance -

    Bronzong

    • Trickroom -
    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Dugtrio

    • Substitute + Hone Claws -

    Ferrothorn

    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Gengar

    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Gyarados

    • Taunt Support -
    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Heracross

    • Choice Scarf -
    • Choice Band -

    [​IMG] Hydreigon

    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Jynx

    • Nasty Plot -

    [​IMG] Ludicolo

    • Rain Sweeper -

    [​IMG] Omastar

    • Shell Smash -

    [​IMG] Qwilfish

    • Support -
    • Swords Dance -

    [​IMG] Shiftry

    • Special Sweeper -

    [​IMG] Thundurus-T

    • Choice Scarf -
    • Life Orb -
    • Agility -

    [​IMG] Tornadus

    • Tailwind -

    [​IMG] Victini

    • Choice Scarf -
    • Choice Band -
    • Trickroom -

    Tier 5

    Lucario

    • Swords Dance -

    Shedinja

    • Wall -
    • Swords Dance -

    Defensive Threats

    Tier 1

    Arceus-Ghost

    • Calm Mind -
    • Support -

    Arceus-Grass

    • Calm Mind -
    • Support -

    Arceus-Steel

    • Calm Mind -
    • Support -

    [​IMG] Blissey

    • Support -

    [​IMG] Chansey

    • Support -

    Dialga

    • Defensive -

    [​IMG] Ferrothorn

    • Support -

    [​IMG] Forretress

    • Specially Defensive -

    [​IMG] Giratina

    • Great Wall -
    • Specially Defensive -

    Giratina-O

    • Mixed Attacker -
    • RestTalk Shuffler -

    Groudon

    • Support -

    Kyogre

    • [Bulky] Choice Scarf Kyogre -
    • Mono-Attacker Kyogre -

    [​IMG] Latias

    • Offensive Pivot -
    • Stallbreaker -
    • Specially Defensive -
    • Support -

    [​IMG] Lugia

    • Great Wall -
    • SubRoost -
    • Specially Defensive -
    • RestTalk Shuffler -
    • Defensive Calm Mind -

    Tier 2

    Arceus

    • Wallceus (Physical Wall) -

    Arceus-Fighting

    • Utility Counter -

    Arceus-Ground

    • Support -

    Arceus-Poison

    • Support -

    Arceus-Rock

    • Mono-Attacker -

    Excadrill

    • Bulky -

    [​IMG] Gliscor

    • Substitute -

    [​IMG] Heatran

    • Stallbreaker -

    Ho-Oh

    • Tank -
    • Physically Defensive -

    Jirachi

    • Wish Support -

    Palkia

    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Skarmory

    • Support -

    [​IMG] Tentacruel

    • Support -

    [​IMG] Tyranitar

    • Tank -
    • Choice Band -

    Tier 3

    Arceus-Dark

    • Support -

    Arceus-Psychic

    • Utility Counter -

    Arceus-Water

    • Defensive Calm Mind -
    • Sun Support -

    [​IMG] Bronzong

    • Tank -

    [​IMG] Cresselia

    • Lunar Dance + Dual Screens -
    • Wall -

    [​IMG] Hippowdon

    • Physical Wall -

    [​IMG] Landorus-T

    • Physically Defensive -

    Metagross

    • Choice Band -

    Mewtwo

    • StallTwo -

    Scizor

    • Specially Defensive -

    [​IMG] Xatu

    • Dual Screens -

    Tier 4

    [​IMG] Deoxys-D

    • Agility + Taunt -
    • Utility Wall -

    [​IMG] Gastrodon

    • Tank -

    Gyarados

    • Taunt Support -

    [​IMG] Jumpluff

    • Support -
    • SubSeed -

    Ludicolo

    • SubSeed -

    [​IMG] Whimsicott

    • SubSeed -

    Tier 5

    Shedinja

    • Wall -
    • Swords Dance -

    Miscellaneous Threats

    [​IMG] Deoxys

    • Offensive Dual Screens -

    [​IMG] Deoxys-S

    • Suicide Lead -
    • Dual Screens -
    • Choice Scarf -

    [​IMG] Ditto

    • Imposter -

    [​IMG] Froslass

    • Spikes -

    Latios

    • Dual Screens -

    [​IMG] Smeargle

    • Smash Pass -
    • Lv 1 FEAR -

    [​IMG] Wobbuffet

    • OH NO, IT'S WOBBA! - JK.




  3. Oiawesome

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    Hi nice RMT just a amature rater comments:Lati twins are BIG threats to you'r team and are unfortunatly on the rise thanks to soul dew ogre can't handle any varaint of latios because,the CM Variants can take any hit exept meybe not 100% hp Water Spout(I belive Timid WP is a 4HKO or 3HKO no?)and set up in your face recover and use your rain agianst you with thunder for the KO(+1 Thunder Soul Dew or +1 Soul Dew Grass Knot is a OHKO) ,all out attacker varaints can Just Spam Thunder Or Grass Knot for the 2HKO and the recover of all of your efforts to wear it down and Special DD is extremly rare same with Latias really exept it can pose as a bigger threat because of its surperior bulk and +1 SD GK or Surf from both of the latis will OHKO T-tar as far as I know your only chance is exca after t-tar dies because he can outspeed and OHKO Latios but faces the chance of not OHKOing latias at +0 and if you try to SD Surf or even Grass Knot will kill you either way to remedy this I recomend a bulky or fast taunter or phazer but then again a +1 Latios or Latias will just OHKO the taunter and will outspeed the phazing so I recomend CM Latias not only does it deal with other latis but it can raep unprepared team and even some of the best teams on the ladder when played correctly.

    The Set

    Latias @ Soul Dew Timid
    - Levittate 252SpA/192 Spe/60 HP
    Calm Mind/Recover/Grass Knot|Thunder|Surf/Dragon Pulse

    EDIT: After doing some calcs on kalashnikov Ive determined if latias gets +1 or oh god +2 or even + 3 is going to kill evreything if it carries Surf as Dragon Pulse can ko kyogre with enough boosts wich its easy to do.

    ALSO Kyurem W rapes your whole team as nothing that outspeeds it can OHKO it and take ogre of the list because WP is kinda unreliable andit can OHKO even Spdef. Variants of Kyogre with specsDraco after rocks and also Arceus will not OHKO and will get OHKOD with a scarf OR specs STAB move of choice ,the only way to take it down is repeted assults from Exca Arceus AND Kyogre and if Ky is even a little weakend you could lose because as even Specs Blizzard will take out that latias I suggested and Omastar can't OHKO and gets OHKOd in rain and easily 2HKOD in sand as it dose'nt outspeed in sand.
  4. evillocke

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    Alright, I will go with your suggestion. Deo-s has been useless lately.
  5. lousy918

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    Excadrill does not take it wtf.

    I don't actually understand what you are trying to do with your EV spread so I suggest you go either 64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spe to outspeed Scarf Terrakion or just go all out with 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe since the bulk doesn't matter as Excadrill is frail. Also you should give it Life Orb to boost the power of all your moves.
  6. Oiawesome

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    How does ogre handle the latis? Ice beam is a 3HKO on latias and water spout at full is at best a 4HKO and of the latis get 1 CM they can take evrey hit exept t-tar's crunch and T-tar is 2HKOD by +0(+1 is guerenteed so yeah) grass knot and surfand also Exca cant even take a hit as well i've tried you're team on this ladder and I got raped by CM+Roost Latias and SubRoost Kyurem and then got 6-0d by specs kyurem w and I treid evrey thing even excas outspeeding +rock slide didn't work,Since even the best special wall in the game is 2HKOD By Kyurem W after hazards and only things on your team that can outspeed cant OHKO and faces getting KOD back don't treat these threats as minor threats another thing I wonder is that have you actualy tried this team? This team has no threats on paper but only works against ceartin things and gets raped by the best and most commen Special and physical attackers,just saying stall isnt always gonna be the matchup you need to prepare for bulky ofense.

    PEACE.
  7. evillocke

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    Bump, Also, I was wondering if DDray>Omastar. I know this team was built with omastar in mind, but, I try to finish game as fast as I can, I was wondering if he provided enough offensive prowess?

    Well, tested Ho-oh, Palkia, Dialga, Ray, and they don't work. What should I do?
  8. blitzlefan

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    Hmmm... just a thought... I don't think your team likes support Ghost-Arceus, as the EKiller will get burned and therefore be useless, as to be stalled out through Will-O-Wisp + Recover. Therefore, I suggest you run a Timid nature on your Arceus, as I run Ghost Arceus, it REALLY pisses me off when EKiller Shadow Claws before I can Will-O-Wisp. Also, as Arceus really fears burn and to an extent parahax, I suggest running Lum Berry > Silk Scarf. Also, maybe run Cloyster over Omastar, as if he sets up, the opposing team is REALLy screwed, as a 187.5 BP Icicle spear is nothing to fuck with. lastly, as ur running a omastar/cloyster, which really likes that rain support, maybe consider Calm Mind over Fire Blast, as Aura Sphere still hits steels fairly hard.

    Maybe???
    Cloyster @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Skill Link
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
    Lonely Nature
    - Shell Smash
    - Icicle Spear
    - Rock Blast
    - Hydro Pump
  9. evillocke

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    You mean Jolly? Ok. I dont see support arc-Ghost so much, and I don't keep him in on giratina. I will switch to lum if it gets problematic. Will try that cloyster, but with razor shell over Pump and speed Ev's instead of Spatk. I will consider calm mind, but FB was mainly for FERROBITCH.
  10. blitzlefan

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    sorry bout that. im so tired my brain's pretty dead. definitely Jolly w/ 4HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe. GOOD LUCK!
  11. evillocke

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    I switched Omastar with Genesect. Does anybody else have anything to say on this? Updated the threat list with colors.
  12. Young Wild Free

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    you should add at least another line to arceus' description
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    I dont see the purpose of having thunder at all on Mewtwo. i would suggest you change thunder < calm mind calm mind can help it hit harder and keep up with latias if it ever calm minds on you
    Another thing is change Kyogre's nature into Modest > Timid, you already have Genesect as revenge killer there really is no need for another
  13. evillocke

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    Thunder helps me KO Ogre switch ins. Mainly specs and CM. I will try CM, though. On Kyogres nature, I had it Timid so I could speed tie other scarf 90's. *cough ho-oh zekrom cough*
  14. blitzlefan

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    Yes, probably avoid running Thunder on Mewtwo, as it will just get OHKOd by an opposing Scarf Kyogre anyway, so just pack Calm Mind in case you get the chance to set up, or if you're feeling especially trollish, run Taunt, as to fuck with entry hazard setters. And that speed on Scarf Kyogre is important, so I think you should keep that Timid nature, as revenge killing everything in sight is ridiculously awesome.
  15. evillocke

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    Alright, changed Thunder to CM.

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