(...) and pokemon such as Gastrodon, who, let's face it, is nothing special besides a check to Thunderus
As for Rotom-W, not surprised seeing him jump up. Especially if Thunderus gets banned. I'm under the impression he's outright broken under Rain, Double STAB Hydro Pumps from a high Sp.Atk, backed up by STAB Electric attacks, bulk, and a great support movepool too. Not to mention perfect synergy with Scizor... both x4 resisting the other's sole weakness under rain.
Gastrodon is nothing special besides a check to Thunderus
As for Rotom-W, not surprised seeing him jump up. Especially if Thunderus gets banned. I'm under the impression he's outright broken under Rain
Gastrodon is nothing special
Rotom-W's outright broken under Rain
Gastrodon
Rotom-W
2 Rotom-W 84284 17.78459%
1 Tyranitar 95686 20.1905%
2 Rotom-W 84284 17.78459%
3 Scizor 81761 17.25221%
4 Gliscor 81449 17.18638%
5 Ferrothorn 80902 17.07096%
6 Politoed 75124 15.85175%
7 Dragonite 71521 15.09149%
8 Heatran 64319 13.57181%
9 Jirachi 60943 12.85945%
10 Latios 58072 12.25365%
11 Skarmory 51586 10.88505%
12 Excadrill 49093 10.35901%
13 Thundurus 42488 8.9653%
14 Reuniclus 36344 7.66887%
15 Haxorus 35503 7.49141%
16 Jellicent 34192 7.21478%
17 Conkeldurr 34130 7.2017%
18 Gengar 34040 7.18271%
19 Celebi 33407 7.04914%
20 Infernape 32714 6.90291%
21 Starmie 32701 6.90017%
22 Ninetales 32008 6.75394%
23 Forretress 31519 6.65076%
24 Gyarados 31012 6.54378%
25 Deoxys-S 30247 6.38235%
26 Magnezone 29488 6.2222%
27 Landorus 28417 5.99621%
28 Volcarona 28245 5.95992%
29 Terrakion 27355 5.77212%
30 Blissey 26982 5.69341%
31 Salamence 26015 5.48937%
32 Latias 25748 5.43303%
33 Gastrodon 24750 5.22244%
34 Espeon 24039 5.07242%
35 Tentacruel 23934 5.05026%
36 Toxicroak 22186 4.68142%
37 Vaporeon 22044 4.65146%
38 Bronzong 21951 4.63183%
39 Hydreigon 21562 4.54975%
40 Breloom 21085 4.4491%
41 Scrafty 20959 4.42251%
42 Mamoswine 17639 3.72197%
43 Lucario 17498 3.69222%
44 Virizion 16658 3.51497%
To be fair, Escavalier is a complete full stop to Latios since it has much better special defense than Scizor and a more powerful Pursuit as it switches out. It swaps the utility of U-Turn for the sheer power of Megahorn. If it learned Superpower, I'd probably use Escavalier over Scizor or Tyranitar on my Latias team.It's like you pick CBEscavelier over CBScizor. Yes, you are more powerful, but you can't get past steel types and you offer almost no utility, whereas Scizor has priority, U-Turn and Pursuit.
Well, Haxorus gets Dual Chop and Mold Breaker, two qualities Dragonite and Salamence cannot boast. Furthermore, Haxorus' CB Outrage can 2HKO the likes of Heatran and Jirachi, Dragonite and Salamence cannot boast that. As well, I find the DD Lum version to work pretty good as well. Yes its in an awkward speed tier, but Haxorus has truly developed in the B/W metagame and is well deserving of its huge spike in usage. No more are people using that overhyped DD Life Orb crap, but it is a very versatile offensive pokemon, capable of running excellent CB, SD, DD Lum, Scarf, and Double Dance sets.Haxorus rising better be not due to the CB set, because it is straight outclassed by CBNite. For a small drop in power (irrelevant) and speed, you get a shitload of bulk, even without Multiscale, an arguably better typing, a way to get past his counters (Fire Punch), and priority as powerful as Scizors (Extremespeed). It's basicly almost as good at what Haxorus does, but also doubles as revenge killer/cleaner, tank and check to a shitload of thing.
It's like you pick CBEscavelier over CBScizor. Yes, you are more powerful, but you can't get past steel types and you offer almost no utility, whereas Scizor has priority, U-Turn and Pursuit.
Really, the only Haxorus sets that are not straight outclassed by Dragonite or Salamence are the SD and SD+DD sets, which I never see.
But the thing is, people are arguing that Virizion has an easy time switchin in and setting up, which I've shown in that post is untrue. Yes, you would never ever switch a Virizion into a Heatran, that proves my point, Virizion does not have an easy time setting up at all. As well, I'm completely aware that a good chunk of those pokemon don't have safe switchins into Virizion as well. But the number of pokemon that can come in on Virizion far outnumbers the number of pokemon Virizion can come in on safely, making it a bad pokemon for this metagame.hey man, you're doing it wrong
You're actually saying that people will switch in against shit like Heatran and friends? Well, ok then.
So, let's do it the other way: Heatran switches into Virizion, Virizion uses CM survives a Scarf Fire Blast, KO with Focus Blast. Ferrothorn switches in trying to die... mission accomplished. Blissey tries to Toxic, gets defeated. Blah blah blah stop hammer time
May UU rest in peace :'(Interesting... Darmanitan, Machamp and Cloyster are in UU range.
Thanks for the stats.
The point is, P2 hard counters 2 attack Chandy because of Trace.Plus there is nothing stopping Chandelure running CM in UU as I said, whats Pory2 gonna do to a CM Chandy when its main attacks are Boltbeam? ... Looking through the UU top 15 Milotic is the only thing there that doesn't get mutilated by a simple Sub/CM Chandy with only double STAB as it is and that is only one potential.
Throw in the fact that these stats only include pokemon that were sent out in battle, and the picture gets even more grainy, as there are sure to be quite a few extra useages here and there, and weather starters are obviously going to be exaggerated by a system like that, while more situational pokemon will be shafted, because they may not have been needed to win.People really need to stop referring to #1-44 as the "New OU." This list is not indicative of "New OU." As it has been stated multiple times, "New OU" will take into account stats from May and June as well.
All you are managing to do is create further confusion.