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Unfezant (GP 2/2)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by waterwarrior, Dec 21, 2011.

  1. waterwarrior

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    Skelly goes here (open)

    [Overview]
    -The exceedingly poor man's Swellow
    -By that, I mean its honestly quite outclassed in many areas
    -Very similar movepool to Swellow's except...
    -doesn't even get Drill Peck, let alone Brave Bird
    -Hypnosis
    -Very high Speed for NU
    -Awesome ability in Super Luck, if and when you attack

    [Set]
    Set Name: Support
    Move 1: Hypnosis
    Move 2: Taunt
    Move 3: Return
    Move 4: Roost
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Super Luck
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe

    [Set Comments]
    -Hypnosis is Unfezant's main niche against the other Normal/ Flying types, being able to completely shut down an opponent's poke
    -Taunt is another thing it has, being able to cripple walls and set-up pokes after something has been put to sleep
    -Return is your main way of doing damage, albeit not very much with little investment
    -Roost gives you a nice form of recovery

    [Additional Comments]
    -Toxic can be used to cripple walls not named Amoonguss or Weezing
    -Pluck can be used as an alternate attack if you like stealing the rare Berry
    -Wish can be used as more support, but it is illegal with Hypnosis

    [Other Options]
    -Unfezant can run a CB set, but its outclassed by Dodrio and Swellow
    -It can set up Rain/ Sun if you want it to
    -Tailwind
    -Wish is a great support move, but it is sadly illegal with Hypnosis

    [Checks and Counters]
    -Rock types, especially Regirock, absorb anything Unfezant can dish out
    -Almost any physical wall can stop Unfezant as well
    -Unfezant's tiny bulk means it takes major damage from almost anything
    -Stealth Rock


    Write-up, awaiting GP checks:
    [Overview]
    <p>With high Attack and a
    solid base 93 Speed, one would think thatUnfezant would be a daunting attacker in the NU tier. However, it faces stiff competition from the likes of Swellow, Braviary, and even Dodrio, rendering this bird outclassed in most roles. However, Unfezant occupies an interesting niche in its access to Hypnosis and Taunt, as well as a great ability in Super Luck. While the pigeon's attacking movepool may be lacking options such as Brave Bird and Drill Peck, it has the right moves as a support Pokemon toearn itself a place on a team.<p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Hypnosis
    move 2: Taunt
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Super Luck
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>
    This set aims to use the unique qualities that only Unfezant possesses: the combination of Hypnosis, good support moves, a great ability, and high Speed. Even though Hypnosis has shaky accuracy, it will incapacitate an opponent's Pokemon when it does hit. Taunt is another trick that this pigeon has up its sleeve, allowing it to cripple walls and stop possible attempts to set up. Unfezant's Return does not hit as hard as some other birds' in the tier, but it does serve the purpose of saving Unfezant from becoming complete Taunt bait. Roost is for recovery, dramatically increasing Unfezant's lifespan and usefulness in battle.<p>

    [
    ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Unfortunately, Unfezant suffers from Four Moveslot Syndrome. A set like this would appreciate Toxic to provide some residual damage, but the moves listed are usually more important. Toxic contradicts the main reason to use Unfezant, Hypnosis. Unfezant has another STAB option in Pluck, but Berries are so rare that it is pointless to run it over Return. Wish, though an excellent support move, is illegal with Hypnosis and by far an inferior option on this Pokemon.<p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Because of Unfezant's stats, a Choice Band set seems to be the most viable option. Unfortunately, such a set would be better off run on Swellow, Braviary, or Dodrio. Unfezant also has access to Rain Dance and Sunny Day, aiding sweeps from Pokemon such as Gorebyss or Victreebel, respectively. Furthermore, Unfezant can use the somewhat gimmicky Tailwind, but it is very hard to utilize. A Wish set is usually avoidedbecause it renders the bird unable to use Hypnosis, which is by far the biggest incentive of using Unfezant.<p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As Unfezant is a support Pokemon, Taunt is always a large threat. Fortunately, due to Unfezant's high base Speed, it is surprisingly difficult to Taunt it. However, its weak defenses means that it is forced out by almost everything once Sleep Clause is activated. Although Unfezant is granted immunity from Toxic Spikes, Toxic severely hampers its performance. Unfezant's Flying typing also brings the wing-clipping weakness that is Stealth Rock, and the rarity of rapid-spinners in NU makes this problem worse.<p>
  2. breh

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    don't mention aerial ace at all; after snover moves up, mentioning it will be 100% pointless.

    support is awful and it's a doubles set. don't use it.
  3. Omicron

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    I agree, the second set looks terrible, I'd scrap that in a heartbeat.

    This mon sux major ass
  4. waterwarrior

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    Deleted the 2nd set, added Taunt + Tailwind to OO.

    Yea, ik he sucks, but someone's gotta do all the bad pokes out there.
  5. breh

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    stick toxic in the last slot?
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    ^ this. at least you'll be able to leave some kind of parting damage. its kinda unfezant awful when your best flying-type STAB move is pluck.......
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    Slash Quick Attack somewhere on the set. Mention Hypnosis in OO, or even AC. It's one of Unfezant's distinguishing draws.

    Also, a SubRoost set with Life Orb is actually pretty good. Damn shame it's not a Brave Bird, but oh well. Here:

    [SET]
    name: SubRoost
    move 1: Return
    move 2: Pluck
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Super Luck
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    Jolly for outspeeding Rotom, which allows Unfezant to block Volt Switch and WoW with Sub.

    Unfezant is actually quite good IMO. It's no Braviary, but it does have decent stats.
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    Unfezant

    [SET]
    name: One Shot Pistol
    move 1: Sky Attack
    move 2: Return
    move 3: U-Turn
    move 4: Taunt
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Super Luck
    nature: Jolly/Adamant
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    I think you get the idea. A stab Sky Attack with double the increase in critical hit chance and possible flinch hax. The rest of the set is flexible and can fit whatever your idea of a mediocre sweeper like Unfezant should have. It's not the best set, but it's very fun.
  9. Ice-eyes

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    It does actually have one proper niche - it gets Hypnosis.
  10. erisia

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    Choice Band is completely outclassed by Swellow and Braviary (and probably even Pidgeot) so I don't think anyone's really going to use it. Our best bet is probably some retarded-stall breaker set since Unfezant does have a decent support movepool, and almost no-one will see it coming...

    Set name: Superfly
    Move 1: Return
    Move 2: Taunt
    Move 3: Toxic
    Move 4: Roost / Wish
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Super Luck
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe

    Base 91 speed outspeeds almost all of the tier's walls (other than max speed Miltank) and thus Unfezant can start some annoying. Toxic things to kill them, Taunt things to annoy them, and Roost when you can for recovery. Return is pretty good STAB for a defensive mon (although you get completely shut down my Mganeton) and at least you get instant recovery in Roost (as well as immunity to Spikes and Toxic Spikes) Wish lets you provide team support if you somehow force a switch. Fit Hypnosis anywhere you want. :p
  11. Molk

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    actually, in a way the stallbreaker is outclassed by murkrow.

    not much unfezant can do :<
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    Yeah, it's probably outclassed by Golbat too. But it does get a high powered STAB Return, which does about the same damage as Golbat's Brave Bird and maybe even Murkrow's, whilst not giving recoil. And it's the only Normal / Flying that can do this. It's small, but it's not like the Choice Band set which is purely outclassed by other Normal / Flyings. :p
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    Lol what isn't it outclassed by? xD
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    well, pidgey DOES give unfezant some competition

    unfezant for worst flying type xD

    in all seriousness, the subroost set is the best its got, imo i think that should be added
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    OK EVERYONE CLAM DOWN

    I get that Unfezant is horrible. I get it doesn't even have Brave Bird. But the only person to mention the ONE niche it has over all the other Normal/Flying types was Ice-eyes: it gets Hypnosis. Hypnosis should be at least slashed on its sets, if not a main option on an annoyer type set. Even though it only has 60% accuracy, it can still cripple an unsuspecting Rotom/Eelektross/Regirock/etc for basically the entire match. I'm not saying its not a terrible Pokemon, but at least play to whatever strengths it has.

    SubRoost is terrible, don't bother. CB is OO at best. That Sky Attack set isn't even OO. The set should look something like erisiascape's set:

    Set Name: Support
    Move 1: Hypnosis
    Move 2: Taunt
    Move 3: Return
    Move 4: Roost / Wish
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Super Luck
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe

    With Toxic and Pluck in AC.
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    I mentioned Hypnosis in my last post???

    Also, are the Band and subRoost sets being dropped because they're outclassed by Braviary and Dodrio, or because they're bad? If it's a matter of being outclassed, the sets should be mentioned in OO, but stressed that there are better Pokes for the job.
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    hypnosis is not a niche; it's a shitty move that nobody uses except on OU politoed on rare occasion. I'm not sure, but I think that Ice-eyes was joking, at least based on the fact that he used italics.

    that that set is 100% useless once it sleeps something (or once something with paralysis / burn / toxic switches in) is not a good thing. at least the CB set can slowly wear down walls, lol.
  18. Ice-eyes

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    Actually it was more 'hey, you idiots, you failed to notice Unfezant's only viable niche (which is actually not that bad) whilst raging about how outclassed it is' italics.

    I'm 100% behind Tennisace on this one.
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    If the set is 100% useless when/if it sleeps something then at least it did something? CB is silly when you have Dodrio in the tier, a quick mention in OO that it can use Choice Band as an item is all it needs.
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    Noctowl! D:

    If the above set does get added, there's no point slashing Wish because Hypnosis + Wish are an illegal combination. Wish is passed on by either Togetic or Natu, neither of which learn Hypnosis (Natu probably should, but whatever).
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    as far as I know, the policy on 100% outclassed mons is that they get sets based on what they can do well. frankly, a lackluster subroost set is worse than a mediocre CB set.
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    Goddamn me, why haven't I been active in C&C @_@

    Anyways tennis, I put in that set, took down CB and Sky Attack set. Anything else?
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    Didn't realize Wish + Hypnomiss was illegal, just a quick line in OO mentioning that and you're good to go.

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    Well if it's in AC and there's only one set, why move it to OO? :S
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    because using wish would require you to change hypnosis, thus eliminating its niche (aka togetic would do that better, etc)

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