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UU Stats: August 2012

Discussion in 'BW UU' started by kokoloko, Sep 1, 2012.

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  1. Chimera404

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    Alternatively you can run HP Ice to completely demolish Gligar and U-turn out of Slowbro into Shaymin, who really doesn't care about anything Slowbro can do to it. Also, hilarious has a point. Anything offensive swapping into Mienshao stands a good chance against Shaymin too.
  2. EonADS

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    ^ Shaymin is just a random example. Perhaps something like Raikou or Zapdos would be a better example; I have used SubPass Mienshao with Zapdos to great effect, and it definitely manages to grab momentum like nobody's business. Biggest drawback is that it's something of a liability late-game, but it's definitely a good way to get an early lead in a match.

    Also, Shaymin does indeed care about Slowbro Fire Blast, 50.4% - 59.8% to the standard offensive set from 0 SpA Slowbro. Pretty sure that's a bit of a wake-up call if you get predicted.


    Ambipom... is only decent at best. I mean yeah, it can hit pretty hard, but it's really predictable and not hard to beat at all. Mienshao still hits harder overall, and is a superior "free damage" Poke. Yes, Ambipom is better against specific targets and fares better against Ghosts, but overall it's inferior to Mienshao in almost every concievable way.
  3. Chimera404

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    Zapdos AND Raikou both routinely use Substitute on their threatening sets as well (SubRoost and SubCM respectively), but whatever. I use Mienshao for its high damage yield after ghosts and Gligar are gone, so I would naturally have a different opinion.

    Didn't run the calcs for FB against Shaymin, that IS surprising.

    Mienshao doesn't get very much free damage is the problem, because of that piss-weak Fake Out. It also gets outsped by some things it really needs to hit, like Cobalion switching into Fake Out or U-Turn. *shrugs*
  4. kokoloko

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    Ah yes, Cobalion the Mienshao counter. Sounds like a plan.

    Anyway, Mienshao is really good. Fake Out... is not. Ambipom is not entirely outclassed by Mienshao, but I guarantee you there isn't a single team where Ambipom is used that couldn't be improved by replacing Ambipom with something--not necessarily Mienshao. It's just not a good Pokemon.

    That is all.
  5. Chimera404

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    Lol, yeah, Cobalion was a horrible idea, but I'm serious when I say that nobody uses HJK on Mienshao when I have a ghost on my team, so not that horrible. Then OHKO with anything straight back, or SD on the switch out.

    You have a good point on Ambipom, because there are so many things that teams need more than a scouter in BW. It's never been a bad Pokemon, just not good enough.

    Still, let's see how the Research Week goes with my Ambi/Missy offensive core.
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