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VGC 12 Speed Tiers

Discussion in 'VGC' started by cosmicexplorer, Aug 25, 2011.

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  1. cosmicexplorer

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    This should be a pretty complete list, but please do post if you feel I need to add anything. Remember that these stats are at level 50.

    Speed Stat | Pokemon | Base Speed | Nature | Boost | EVs

    Tier 0 (+Speed Base 130s and Greater)
    356 | Jumpluff | 110 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    308 | Excadrill | 88 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    300 | Kingdra | 85 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    294 | Yanmega | 95 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    290 | Shiftry, Venusaur | 80 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    280 | Excadrill | 88 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    274 | Kingdra | 85 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    268 | Ludicolo, Cloyster | 70 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    264 | Shiftry, Venusaur, Blaziken | 80 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    264 | Terrakion | 108 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    253 | Garchomp | 102 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    250 | Typhlosion | 100 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    244 | Ludicolo, Cloyster | 70 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    223 | Haxorus | 97 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    220 | Darmanitan, Yanmega | 95 | Neutral | +1 | 252
    217 | Chandelure, Togekiss | 80 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    208 | Smeargle | 75 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    205 | Heracross | 85 | Neutral | +1 | 252
    201 | Metagross, Politoed | 70 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    200 | Aerodactyl, Crobat, Jolteon | 130 | +Spe | 0 | 252

    Tier 1 (Neutral Base 90s to +1 Neutral Base 80s)
    198 | Chandelure, Blaziken | 80 | Neutral | +1 | 252
    194 | Swellow, Weavile | 125 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    189 | Alakazam, Dugtrio | 120 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    184 | Jellicent, Abomasnow | 60 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    184 | Carracosta | 32 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    184 | Whimsicott | 116 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    183 | Azelf, Starmie, Raikou | 115 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    179 | Thundurus, Tornadus | 111 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    178 | Archeops, Espeon, Latias, Latios, Gengar | 110 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    176 | Infernape, Terrakion, Virizion | 108 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    173 | Liepard | 106 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    172 | Manectric, Mienshao, Zoroark | 105 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    169 | Garchomp | 102 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    168 | Landorus | 101 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    167 | Salamence, Zapdos, Volcarona, Staraptor, Charizard | 100 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    153 | Landorus | 101 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    156 | Porygon-Z, Lucario | 90 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    152 | Ninetales, Staraptor, Salamence, Volcarona, Zapdos | 100 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    150 | Hydreigon | 98 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    149 | Haxorus | 97 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    147 | Arcanine, Darmanitan, Yanmega | 95 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    144 | Krookodile | 92 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    142 | Lucario | 90 | Neutral | 0 | 252

    Tier 2 (Neutral Base 70s to Neutral Base 88s)
    140 | Excadrill | 88 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    139 | Smeargle | 75 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    138 | Rotom-A | 86 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    137 | Kingdra, Toxicroak | 85 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    132 | Blaziken, Dragonite, Mamoswine, Medicham, Shiftry, Venusaur, Chandelure, Stoutland, Togekiss | 80 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    129 | Heatran | 77 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    127 | Absol | 75 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    123 | Honchkrow | 71 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    122 | Hitmontop, Ludicolo, Politoed, Metagross, Cloyster | 70 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    107 | Ursaring | 55 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    106 | Rotom-A | 86 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    105 | Cresselia, Suicune | 85 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    101 | Gyarados | 81 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    100 | Blaziken, Dragonite, Mamoswine, Medicham, Shiftry, Venusaur, Chandelure, Stoutland, Togekiss | 80 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    92 | Shedinja | 40 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    92 | Carracosta | 32 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    90 | Breloom, Hitmontop, Metagross, Politoed | 70 | Neutral | 0 | 0

    Tier 3 (Minimum Base 60s to Neutral Base 65s)
    85 | Scizor | 65 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    81 | Cresselia, Heracross | 85 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    80 | Porygon2, Empoleon, Jellicent, Lapras | 60 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    78 | Scrafty | 58 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    75 | Blissey, Golurk | 55 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    73 | Heatran | 77 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    76 | Chandelure | 80 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    70 | Eelektross | 50 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    67 | Metagross, Politoed | 70 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    65 | Conkeldurr | 45 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    59 | Gastrodon | 39 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    59 | Tyranitar | 61 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    58 | Abomasnow, Jellicent, Rampardos | 60 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0

    Tier 4 (Minimum Base 58s and Below)
    56 | Scrafty | 58 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    54 | Ursaring, Machamp, Golurk | 55 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    49 | Eelektross, Hariyama | 50 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    47 | Ninetales | 100 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    46 | Carracosta | 32 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    46 | Hippowdon | 47 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    45 | Conkeldurr, Dusknoir | 45 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    40 | Rhyperior | 40 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    36 | Golurk | 55 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | -1
    34 | Bronzong | 33 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    33 | Politoed | 70 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    31 | Amoonguss, Cofagrigus, Parasect, Reuniclus, Slowbro, Slowking, Snorlax | 30 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    30 | Musharna | 29 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    29 | Tyranitar | 61 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    29 | Abomasnow | 60 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    27 | Gigalith, Dusclops | 25 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    23 | Hippowdon | 47 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    22 | Ferrothorn, Escavalier | 20 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    9 | Shuckle | 5 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    6 | Whimsicott (level 1) | 116 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    5 | Smeargle (level 1) | 70 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
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    356 / Jumpluff / 110 / +Spe / 252 / +2

    294 / Yanmega / 95 / Neutral / 252 / +2

    264 / Terrakion / 108 / +Spe / 252 / +1

    264 / Blaziken / 80 / Neutral / 252 / +2

    223 / Haxorus / 97 / Neutral / 252 / +1

    217 / Chandelure, Togekiss / 80 / +Spe / 252 / +1

    189 / Alakazam / 120 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    184 / Carracosta / 32 / +Spe / 252 / +2

    183 / Raikou / 115 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    178 / Gengar / 110 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    173 / Liepard / 106 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    172 / Manectric / 105 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    168 / Landorus / 101 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    167 / Raikou / 115 / Neutral / 252 / 0

    167 / Salamence, Zapdos, Volcarona, Staraptor, Charizard / 100 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    165 / Hydreigon / 98 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    163 / Haxorus / 97 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    156 / Poygon-Z, Lucario, Kangaskhan / 90 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    132 / Medicham / 80 / Neutral / 252 / 0

    92 / Carracosta / 32 / +Spe / 252 / 0

    80 / Porygon2, Empoleon, Jellicent, Lapras / 60 / Neutral / 0 / 0

    73 / Heatran / 77 / -Spe, 0 IV / 0 / 0

    65 / Conkeldurr / 45 / Neutral / 0

    58 / Abomasnow, Jellicent, Rampardos / 60 / -Spe, 0 IV / 0 / 0

    54 / Machamp / 55 / -Spe, 0 IV / 0 / 0

    52 / Carracosta / 32 / Neutral / 0 / 0

    46 / Hippowdon / 47 / -Spe, 0 IV / 0 / 0

    45 / Conkeldurr / 45 / -Spe, 0 IV / 0 / 0

    31 / Cofagrigus, Parasect / 30 / -Spe, 0 IV / 0 / 0

    6 / Whimsicott / 116 / -Spe, 0 IV / 0 / 0

    -spe cresselia and heracross should be on the same line, neutral natured smeargle doesn't exist, and anytime there is a -Spe, add 0 IV next to it
  3. JRank

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    Needs more +Spe Chlorophyll / Swift Swim / Sand Rush (Force?)
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    !!!

    Added.

    EDIT: Man I had like 3/4 of the ones you added already on there but I removed them because I thought they weren't common enough x.x
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    stickied!
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    SOLACE IS A BLORPAHORP

    consistency o 3o
    also got rid of random speed scrafty, it didnt even outspeed base 70s

    Speed Stat | Pokemon | Base Speed | Nature | Boost | EVs

    Tier 0 (+Speed Base 130s and Greater)
    256 | Jumpluff | 110 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    308 | Excadrill | 88 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    300 | Kingdra | 85 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    294 | Yanmega | 95 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    290 | Shiftry, Venusaur | 80 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    280 | Excadrill | 88 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    274 | Kingdra | 85 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    268 | Ludicolo | 70 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    264 | Shiftry, Venusaur, Blaziken | 80 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    264 | Terrakion | 108 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    253 | Garchomp | 102 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    250 | Typhlosion | 100 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    244 | Ludicolo | 70 | Neutral | +2 | 252
    223 | Haxorus | 97 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    220 | Darmanitan, Yanmega | 95 | Neutral | +1 | 252
    217 | Chandelure, Togekiss | 80 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    208 | Smeargle | 75 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    205 | Heracross | 85 | Neutral | +1 | 252
    201 | Metagross, Politoed | 70 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    200 | Aerodactyl, Crobat, Jolteon | 130 | +Spe | 0 | 252

    Tier 1 (Neutral Base 90s to +1 Neutral Base 80s)
    198 | Chandelure, Blaziken | 80 | Neutral | +1 | 252
    194 | Swellow, Weavile | 125 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    189 | Alakazam, Dugtrio | 120 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    184 | Jellicent, Abomasnow | 60 | +Spe | +1 | 252
    184 | Carracosta | 32 | +Spe | +2 | 252
    184 | Whimsicott | 116 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    183 | Azelf, Starmie, Raikou | 115 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    179 | Thundurus, Tornadus | 111 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    178 | Archeops, Espeon, Latias, Latios, Gengar | 110 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    176 | Infernape, Terrakion, Virizion | 108 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    173 | Liepard | 106 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    172 | Manectric, Mienshao | 105 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    169 | Garchomp | 102 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    168 | Landorus | 101 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    168 | Hydreigon | 98 | +Spe | 252 | 0
    167 | Salamence, Zapdos, Volcarona, Staraptor, Charizard | 100 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    153 | Landorus | 101 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    156 | Porygon-Z, Lucario | 90 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    152 | Ninetales, Staraptor, Salamence, Volcarona, Zapdos | 100 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    150 | Hydreigon | 98 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    149 | Haxorus | 97 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    147 | Arcanine, Darmanitan, Yanmega | 95 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    144 | Krookodile | 92 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    142 | Lucario | 90 | Neutral | 0 | 252

    Tier 2 (Neutral Base 70s to Neutral Base 89s)
    140 | Excadrill | 88 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    139 | Smeargle | 75 | +Spe | 0 | 252
    138 | Rotom-A | 86 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    137 | Kingdra, Toxicroak | 85 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    132 | Blaziken, Dragonite, Mamoswine, Medicham, Shiftry, Venusaur | 80 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    129 | Heatran | 77 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    127 | Absol | 75 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    123 | Honchkrow | 71 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    122 | Hitmontop, Ludicolo, Politoed, Metagross | 70 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    107 | Ursaring | 55 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    106 | Rotom-A | 86 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    105 | Cresselia, Suicune | 85 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    101 | Gyarados | 81 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    100 | Chandelure, Mamoswine, Stoutland, Togekiss | 80 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    92 | Shedinja | 40 | Neutral | 0 | 252
    90 | Breloom, Hitmontop, Metagross, Politoed | 70 | Neutral | 0 | 0

    Tier 3 (Minimum Base 60s to Neutral Base 69s)
    85 | Scizor | 65 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    81 | Cresselia, Heracross | 85 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    80 | Porygon2, Empoleon, Jellicent, Lapras | 60 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    78 | Scrafty | 58 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    75 | Blissey | 55 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    73 | Heatran | 77 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    76 | Chandelure | 80 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    67 | Metagross, Politoed | 70 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    65 | Conkeldurr | 45 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    59 | Gastrodon | 39 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    59 | Tyranitar | 61 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    58 | Abomasnow, Jellicent, Rampardos | 60 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0

    Tier 4 (Minimum Base 59s and Below)
    56 | Scrafty | 58 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    54 | Ursaring, Machamp | 55 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    52 | Carracosta | 32 | Neutral | 0 | 0
    49 | Hariyama | 50 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    47 | Ninetales | 100 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    46 | Hippowdon | 47 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    45 | Conkeldurr | 45 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    40 | Rhyperior | 40 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    34 | Bronzong | 33 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    33 | Politoed | 70 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    31 | Amoonguss, Cofagrigus, Parasect, Reuniclus, Slowbro, Slowking, Snorlax | 30 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    30 | Musharna | 29 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    29 | Tyranitar | 61 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    29 | Abomasnow | 60 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    27 | Gigalith, Dusclops | 25 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    23 | Hippowdon | 47 | -Spe, 0 IV | -2 | 0
    22 | Ferrothorn, Escavalier | 20 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    9 | Shuckle | 5 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    6 | Whimsicott (level 1) | 116 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
    5 | Smeargle (level 1) | 70 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
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    I COULD HAVE DONE THIS MYSELF WHY WOULD YOU WASTE SO MUCH TIME AND NOT TELL ME
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    adding

    75 | Golurk | 55 | Neutral | 0 | 0

    54 | Golurk | 55 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0

    36 | Golurk | 55 | -Spe, 0 IV | -1 | 0

    edit: also Bisharp to neutral 252 base 70s group,

    70 | Eelektross | 50 | Neutral | 0 | 0

    49 | Eelektross | 50 | -Spe, 0 IV | 0 | 0
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    Added, also added Cloyster and Machamp.
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    i am not a blorpahorp >:(

    also added in this:
    168 | Hydreigon | 98 | +Spe | 252 | 0


    [10:57am] <muffinhead> solace
    [10:57am] <muffinhead> i have discovered that i am the blorpahorp
    [10:57am] <Solace> are you really the blorpahorp
    [10:57am] <muffinhead> and typoed hydreigon's speed stat
    [10:57am] <Solace> NO
    [10:57am] <muffinhead> its 165
    [10:57am] <Solace> okay
    [10:57am] <muffinhead> not 168

    ok changing!
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    Added Zoroark.
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    132 | Blaziken, Dragonite, Mamoswine, Medicham, Shiftry, Venusaur, Chandelure, Stoutland, Togekiss | 80 | Neutral | 0 | 252

    100 | Blaziken, Dragonite, Mamoswine, Medicham, Shiftry, Venusaur, Chandelure, Stoutland, Togekiss | 80 | Neutral | 0 | 0


    these should replace the current ones (i merged them)
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    Add Dusknoir and Dusclops?
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