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VGC 2014 Rules

Discussion in 'VGC' started by RBG, Nov 22, 2013.

  1. RBG

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    http://assets22.pokemon.com/assets/...14/Play_Pokemon_VG_Rules_and_Formats_2014.pdf

    • Only Pokémon X and Pokémon Y Game Cards or downloadable versions are permitted for use.
    • Players may use Pokémon from the Central Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #150, Coastal Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #153, or Mountain Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #147.
    • Pokémon must be placed in the Battle Box.
    • Pokémon are allowed to Mega Evolve.
    • Pokémon above Level 50 are permitted, but they are auto-leveled down to 50 for the duration of battle.
    • Players may use Pokémon with Hidden Abilities.
    • Players may use items that have been officially released via Pokémon X, Pokémon Y, the Pokémon Global Link, or an official event or promotion.
    Tobes Edit: Here are all of the fully evolved (plus a handful of unevolved) Pokemon that are currently legal. I've bolded the ones that I think are good, relevant, or interesting.

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    Abomasnow / Mega-Abomasnow
    Absol / Mega-Absol
    Accelgor
    Aegislash
    Aerodactyl / Mega-Aerodactyl
    Aggron / Mega-Aggron
    Alakazam / Mega-Alakazam
    Altaria
    Alomola
    Amoonguss
    Ampharos / Mega-Ampharos
    Arbok
    Ariados
    Aromatisse
    Aron
    Articuno
    Audino
    Auroras
    Avalugg
    Azumarill
    Banette / Mega-Banette
    Barbaracle
    Basculin
    Beartic
    Beedrill
    Bellossom
    Bibarel
    Bisharp
    Blastoise / Mega-Blastoise
    Butterfree
    Carbink
    Carnivine
    Chandelure
    Charizard / Mega-Charizard-X / Mega-Charizard-Y
    Chatot
    Chesnaught
    Chimecho
    Clawitzer
    Cloyster
    Conkeldurr
    Corsola
    Crawdaunt
    Crobat
    Crustle
    Cryogonal
    Dedenne
    Delcatty
    Delibird
    Delphox
    Diggersby
    Ditto
    Dodrio
    Dragalge
    Dragonite
    Drapion
    Drifblim
    Druddigon
    Dugtrio
    Dunsparce
    Durant
    Electrode
    Emolga
    Escavalier
    Espeon
    Exeggutor
    Exploud
    Farfetch'd
    Fearow
    Ferrothorn
    Flareon
    Floatzel
    Florges
    Flygon
    Furfrou
    Furret
    Gallade
    Garbodor
    Garchomp / Mega-Garchomp
    Gardevoir
    / Mega-Gardevoir
    Gengar
    / Mega-Gengar
    Gigalith
    Glaceon
    Gliscor
    Gogoat
    Golduck
    Golem
    Golurk
    Goodra
    Gorebyss
    Gothitelle
    Gourgeist

    Granbull
    Greninja
    Grumpig
    Gyarados / Mega-Gyarados
    Hariyama
    Hawlucha
    Haxorus
    Heliolisk
    Heracross / Mega-Heracross
    Hippowdon
    Honchkrow
    Houndoom / Mega-Houndoom
    Huntail
    Hydreigon
    Illumise
    Jolteon
    Jumpluff
    Jynx
    Kangaskhan / Mega-Kangaskhan
    Kecleon
    Kingdra
    Klefki

    Krookodile
    Lanturn
    Lapras
    Leafeon
    Ledian
    Lickilicky
    Liepard
    Linoone
    Lucario / Mega-Lucario
    Ludicolo

    Lunatone
    Luvdisc
    Machamp
    Magcargo
    Magnezone
    Malamar
    Mamoswine

    Manetric / Mega-Manetric
    Mantine
    Marowak
    Masquerain
    Mawile / Mega-Mawile
    Medicham / Mega-Medicham
    Meowstic

    Mienshao
    Mightyena
    Miltank
    Minun
    Moltres
    Mothim
    Mr. Mime
    Murkrow
    Nidoking
    Nidoqueen
    Ninjask
    Noctowl
    Noivern
    Octillery
    Pachirisu
    Pangoro
    Pelipper
    Pidgeot
    Pinsir / Mega-Pinsir
    Pikachu
    Plusle
    Politoed
    Poliwrath
    Probopass
    Pyroar
    Quagsire
    Qwilfish
    Raichu
    Relicanth
    Reuniclus
    Rhydon
    Rhyperior
    Roserade
    Rotom
    Rotom-F
    Rotom-H

    Rotom-S
    Rotom-W
    Sableye
    Salamence

    Sandslash
    Sawk
    Scizor / Mega-Scizor
    Scolipede
    Scrafty
    Scyther
    Seaking
    Seviper
    Sharpedo
    Shedinja
    Shuckle
    Sigilyph
    Simipour
    Simisage
    Simisear
    Skarmory
    Skuntank
    Slowbro
    Slowking
    Slurpluff
    Smeargle
    Snorlax
    Solrock
    Spinda
    Staraptor
    Starmie
    Steelix
    Stunfisk
    Sudowoodo
    Swalot
    Swanna
    Swellow
    Swoobat
    Sylveon
    Talonflame
    Tauros
    Tentacruel
    Throh
    Toxicroak
    Trevenant
    Tyranitar / Mega-Tyranitar
    Tyrantrum
    Umbreon
    Ursaring
    Vanilluxe
    Vaporeon
    Venusaur
    Vespiquen
    Victreebel
    Vileplume
    Vivillon
    Volbeat
    Wailord
    Watchog
    Weavile
    Whiscash
    Wigglytuff
    Wobbuffet
    Wormadam
    Yanmega
    Zangoose
    Zapdos
    Zoroark
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  2. Brophlosion

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    Kalos Native
    Pokémon used in the Standard Format must be native to the Kalos region in Pokémon X or Pokémon Y. A
    native Pokémon is a Pokémon that is hatched or caught in Pokémon X or Pokémon Y. Pokémon that
    have been transferred to Pokémon X or Pokémon Y via Pokémon Bank or Poké Transporter are not
    native.

    So that means I would have to use my Scrafty I hatched in my X version over my White 2 right? Pretty much sealing all of it's move tutor moves.
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  3. Hozu

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    Yes Brophlosion, seals away previous generation tutor moves.

    I, for one, am excited that players will have no choice in the matter regarding section 2.1.
  4. Olly

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    I don't get why they are banning 200 odd Pokemon just to effectively slow down hackers a bit.

    The big changes this means:
    Everything not in the Kalos Dex is banned (including Blaziken).
    Anything that relies on Move Tutors or TM's from past games loses those moves.
  5. Terminate421

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    It's a good thing I've been rebreeding alot of my old pokemon.
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  6. Scorpiopt

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    they went full retard with restricting so many pokemons , way to make vgc even more boring , it was not enough people using allways the same combos
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  7. Ikari

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    Why are you guys so upset when the first 5th gen VGA only allowed Unova Pokemon? On the other hand I'm expecting any Pokemon without the blue pentagon to be banned from all wireless and wifi battles so goodbye certain legendaries(for now) and tutor moves.
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  8. Nattystride

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    Welp, there goes competitive play for another gen. Hopefully gen 7 will have less retarded restrictions.

    (Protip: In any PvP game, the actual PvP is the part that matters. Choosing when to swap, what moves to use, what build to bring, what poke to bring with what EVs, etc is skillful and engaging. Spending 50 hours breeding a single pokemon and getting 15+ boxes worth of non-max pokemon is NOT skillful PvP, it's pointless grind for children who have nothing better to do. Banning legitimate max pokemon who have no illegal moves, items or abilities is the sign that someone is getting the two confused.)

    Hopefully enough people enjoy breeding wars to make up for all the people who enjoy actual PvP that are sitting this gen out.
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  9. Arcticblast

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    It's not slowing down hackers, it's hype for X and Y. They did this in VGC 2011 too...
    No Cresselia, no Thundurus, no Landorus, no Tornadus, no Terrakion, no Gems, no Hitmontop, no Gastrodon, no Latios, no Latias, no Jellicent, DiveCats is no longer possible, no Togekiss, and a fuck ton of other things are gone. And you're saying it's more boring with some of the top Pokemon gone...?
    I honestly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about... Are you complaining that you won't play because you can't use stuff like Pokecheck to get flawless Pokemon? And did you know we have an online battle simulator?
  10. Hozu

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    I'm sorry that you have to follow the rules that have been around for all of VGC. Maybe if you actually played the game you would realize how much easier it is to get competitive Pokémon.

    Edit: People need to understand that part of the competition is bringing a team. That means that it's up to you to obtain said Pokémon within the confines of the rules. This isn't Pokémon Stadium rentals.
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2013
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  11. nightwolf

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    only thing that wasn't stupid, gen 5 at the start with black and white had the same rules and then with black and white 2 they changed it to every pokemon that wasn't an event exclusive, version mascot, and mewtwo. also your rant about breeding is rather pointless, it takes more skill to breed than it is to use pokecheck
  12. Sprocket

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    I for one am looking forward to this meta. I just hope there will be a way to play it in-game.
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  13. Gourmont

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    But... We still don't know if Pokémon which have parents from 5G will be considered as native or not.
    I think they will but, in that case, the flawless parents which are going to be transfered by RNGers and hackers still give them a huge advatage.
  14. Hozu

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    99.9999% sure they would be considered X/Y native. Also, lots of people already have flawless Pokémon via breeding, and Bank isn't even out for another month.
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    Considering that it can take as little as five hours to get a flawless Pokemon from almost nothing now, it's actually not that big of a deal.
  16. Gourmont

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    I agree. Nevertheless, perfect Ditto's will make everything even much faster.
  17. Sprocket

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    Not really. It doesn't take much effort to produce a Gen VI legal egg. All flawless parents would do is speed up the process, nothing more. Hell I've produced flawless Rotoms using nothing but Dittos from the Friend Safari.
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    Let's make this really clear. None of the above, NO HEATRAN, No TopMoth, no unlimited weather (that really shifts around strategies like Sand Veil Chomp and Sand Rush Exadrill, and almost eliminates Politoed/Jellicent(WA) Surf/ScarfWatersport Spams.), no exploding Azelf threats, no Bronzong or Dusknoir for TrickRoom/DualScreen, NO METAGROSS (which the smog dedicated as a number one threat in VGC in issue 6)

    This is in tandem with new threats like TrickRoom MegaAmpharos, and MegaAggron: both tanks in a new doubles game, and the new boost in Soundmoves (and Infiltrators new ability) to bypass Substitute

    However, Blaziken is an official event that I know of, Nintendo did a lot to sponsor it, so... I don't think it's banned at all.
    Mega-Gengar, the next pokemon DEBATED (not already, and maybe not at all) on a pre-ubers ban, isn't banned.
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  19. Deitylight

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    Dark void smeargles are going to be everywhere.
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  20. Olly

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    The rules specifically say:
    "Players may use Pokémon from the Central Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #150, Coastal Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #153, or Mountain Kalos Pokédex from #001 to #147"

    Blaziken is not in the Kalos Pokédex.
  21. B-Lulz

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    Can't believe people are being so idiotically judgmental about this, I for one love these rules and its going to get me back into VGC again.
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  22. xero_k

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    As said above, if you cared to play legitimately at all, you'd realize that breeding is EASY this Gen. Your "excuses" are really running out at this point.

    "Protip": Pros who come with things illegitimately obtained often become non-pros when they actually get caught, or the rules no longer allow them to cheat the way they did. Now that it's fairly easy to breed up good IV'd Pokemon and even easier to EV train them, there really isn't much of an excuse to rely on your cheats any more, but if you refuse to play competitively without the crutch, then there is the simulator, as has been said.
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    Darkrai is unobtainable in XY, which means it's not actually possible for Smeargle to sketch Dark Void atm.

    Anyway this ruleset is more or less Battle Spot XY Doubles, which means we can get discussions rolling sooner than normal. Honestly I don't think the people who are bitching about this have actually tried playing the format, because it's actually quite interesting and enjoyable. If you disagree with this ruleset for philosophical reasons or whatever, that's fine, but please don't waste space in this thread by saying shit like "Nintendo has gone full-retard".
  24. Wrathos

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    yeah, unfortunately :/
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    Wait, according to Chris Brown, dark void is legal and it will be possible for it to sketch it via a pokebank with darkrai and the earliest tournament is January which will be more then enough time to prepare one.
    Anyway this meta game is going to be interesting with the lack of gems, top tier threats from the last vgc, and I suppose the lack of generation 3,4, and 5 move tutors.
    This will no doubt cripple some pokemon who would have otherwise been good this meta game (Zapdos comes to mind).

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