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VGC Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer - Mark II

Discussion in 'Past Format Discussion' started by Solace, Aug 11, 2012.

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  1. voodoo pimp

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    Championship Points are explained here. Basically, you get more points the higher you place in a tournament, and the players with the highest total points get invites to Worlds (Nationals can be entered by anyone, but winning a regional gets you byes for it). If you don't have enough, you can also get in by entering the Last Chance Qualifier which takes place the day before the main event.

    Your other question is really broad, and I'm not quite sure what kind of information you're looking for. You don't need to worry about embarrassing yourself, I've seen plenty of casual players there so as long as you know the basic rules of the game and pay attention to the announcers you'll do fine.
  2. Scalrag

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    Thanks for the link! I wasn't sure how to actually check up on that stuff before... I wish they had it on the global link site, too.

    I was worried that was the case! I guess I meant in regards to both atmosphere and structure. From what I've heard the battles are done Swiss style, which makes me feel a little less nervous. I guess how long does a typical round last and how many rounds are there, usually? Should I expect to spend most of the day there, or does it proceed pretty quickly?
  3. mattj

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    Rounds are like 30 minutes tops, or something short, but good lord, sometimes it'll take hours between rounds. Often the tournaments don't start when they're supposed to, too. It just depends on if they've got their stuff together or not. You will spend the entire day there.
  4. callforjudgement

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    In the UK VGC Nationals, it started off as 60 minutes from the start of one round to the start of the next, and they got it down to around 50 as the day ended. Given that it took them about 3 hours to get their computers working at the start, and there were 9 rounds, it was a long day…
  5. gligar101

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    Gengar or Ambipom?
    I cant decide which one should be the last member of team! They both have their advantages, and I cant choose!

    The other 5 members of my team are: Volcarona, Cresselia, Crobat, Metagross and Rotom-W.
  6. The Knights of Wario Land

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    Go with Hitmontop, he's less gimmicky then both of those mons and synergizes well with the rest of the team.
  7. Professor Birch

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    Way to not answer his question. Imo I would go with Gengar. Having a Fighting immunity is always good.
  8. Agonist

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    He already has two resists, one of them a 4x. Additionally, like he said, Top synergizes well with the rest of his team. So really, he did answer his question.
  9. TheMantyke

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    TKOWL's is honestly one of the better answers and, no offense, but it's better than yours. Gengar and Ambipom are both really frail Pokemon that lend very little to a team. If they're going to be added, it's usually best to think of unique niche they can exploit and build your team around that. Both aren't Pokemon you can round off a team with bar some serious coincidence.

    Hitmontop on the other hand is a really, really easy Pokemon to through on late in the team building process because of what he offers. He's almost a perfect fit for this team in particular with every member enjoying Intimidate, Fake Out, and Fighting-type STAB.
  10. tlyee61

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    seconding this. top can topmoth with volc, help cress set up or not be taunted and synergizes well with meta
  11. Xen

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    What move should I use in my final slot for Liepard? Current moveset consists of Foul Play, Encore, and Fake Out.

    I'm not completely done with deciding my team's rough draft either, but I know I'll be using Breloom and either Zapdos or Defiant Tornadus (leaning more towards the latter, since Loom is a prime target for Intimidate). I was thinking either Thunder Wave, or Protect, but TWave seems to collide with Spore, and idk if there's any other note-worthy moves Liepard wants to use over Protect, since it's rather frail anyway?
  12. Agonist

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    Swagger, Taunt, or Substitute aren't bad choices. It also has options in Charm, Fake Tears, Trick, and Torment, all of which can be useful in their own right.
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    It's hard to decide when I haven't finished deciding my other team members, so I'll probably see what fits best in the final slot once I get a draft up and going. I considered substitute, but I'm not too sure how well it'd fare in Liepard's hands, and I was planning to use Sash anyway.

    On another note, would it be stupid to run Adamant w/ 252 HP/Atk, and use Sucker Punch over Foul Play? Most people use Jolly w/ Max speed, but I don't see the point except for "Outspeeding" neutral Whimiscott (unless I'm missing something obvious)?

    Edit: Does anyone use Calm Thundurus anymore? I forgot that max Speed Liepard "Outspeeds" neutral Thundurus, so idk. I might just go Jolly anyway w/ Sucker Punch.
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    Well, this isn't quite a simple question, and its probably in the wrong place, but...

    I'm trying to create a team based on Hydreigon, Latios, and Blaziken. Latios and Blaziken are there to stay, and Hydreigon was just my first RNG'd Pokemon.

    What would be good compliments to this base, and does it make sense to drop Hydreigon? I'm a little weird in that I really don't want to use Scizor, Tyranitar, Breloom, Sableye, or Politoed.

    Thanks in advance guys, and if this is in the wrong place, please direct me.
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    First off, dont worry, you are in the right place. Next, I think that can be a valid core in respect to typing. Is there anything you wanted to do with the team strategy wise? That would help decide what can take the last 3 places.
  16. Caledrith

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    Well, my goal is to put together a more offensive team, but I'm not sure quite what to do.

    I know what to do in little cup. At one point i was 32/1000 something. In OU/VGC, I'm clueless.
  17. tlyee61

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    Hi and welcome to VGC! for starters, I think Blaziken and Latios / Hydreigon could work nicely as a core. However, you probably only want 1 of these dragons on a team together. Now that you have a starting core, yoy should find some Pokemon that compliment them nicely. I think Rotom-W could work because it pairs well with both Blaziken and Latios. To further add onto this core, Scizor or Metagross could work well and add a steel-type to the team. Overall, here's a checklist of some basics things to have in a VGC team (however, you don't need all of them) :

    Fake Out
    Dragon
    Steel
    answer to rain
    speed control
    good synergy
  18. ChrisXBlade

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    Simple Question

    I have competed in the VGC's for 2 years now, and it wasn't till recently that I added some hackmons (obtained through pokegen) so I can play OU, RU, and UU will this effect the LEGIT pokemon that I am entering into next year's VGC?
  19. tlyee61

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    not sure if I'm supposed to be answering but as long as they're not in the battle box you should be okay. Just in case, I would either release them or trade your vgc mons to another cart.

    OD EDIT: It's cool, I give you a special exemption to answer this question.
  20. GG

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    it should not matter, at the nationals in europe they only checked your battlebox. i got through the check even though i had some non-legal pokecheck pkmn in my boxes.
  21. gligar101

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    What is needed in a good vgc team, without Hitmontop, poli, or trick rooms?
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    ... i am kind of out of the scene right now. But a friend of mine want to go yolo and take a stab at nats. is there even a canadian nats this year?

    And are BW2 tutors good for nats? I am confused.
  23. Scalrag

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    Not that I'm an expert or anything like that, but you should be looking for a theme. Maybe theme isn't the right word, but you should have an idea of what you want your team to accomplish and then what's needed for a team will change depending on that. If you're looking for something that's not-weather or trick room, then I think maybe you should be looking into something like a Goodstuffs team. As far as that goes, tlyee61 posted this a few pages ago:

    Just curious, but why are you excluding hitmontop specifically? Looking for something different?
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    There is no Canada nats this year, and BW2 tutors(And abilities and formes) have been legal all year since after Fall regionals.
  25. c l e a r

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    yeah, that's what i thought as well... O_o
    I have been getting some people telling me otherwise. idk what is going on anymore.
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