Virizion (Dual Screens) [QC 3/3] (GP 2/2)

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#1
Snorlaxe (who took this through QC) has been sorta busy so I got permission to take this beauty over :)

EDIT: Implemented sirn's check, I'll wait and see what to do right now about Badal's.

EDIT 2: So there's been a mix up, and Badal will come back and finish up the check and it'll be done. So for now, I implemented the check I was told to and I'll wait out the next one.

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QC Approvals: Straw Hat Luffy, AccidentalGreed, Pocket
GP Approvals: sirndpt, ___
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[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Giga Drain / Close Combat
move 4: Taunt
item: Light Clay
nature: Timid / Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While one may be disappointed when looking at Virizion's stats, particularly its lackluster Defense stat, it is actually an effective dual screens user. Virizion's great base 129 Special Defense, coupled with its resistance to Pursuit, allows it to set up on a greater number of threats than Latias, Azelf, and Espeon can. Additionally, with its great base 108 Speed, Virizion has the capability to Taunt common entry hazard users and setup sweepers that would normally pose problems for most dual screen users. Most dual screen users have a weakness to the ever-popular Rotom-W and Scizor VoltTurn core; however, Virizion does not fear Rotom-W and, with Reflect, can ensure that Scizor does not become too threatening. While this set is mainly used for supporting purposes, one has a choice when picking an attack. While Giga Drain offers insurance against most rain teams and the ability to replenish health, one can opt for Close Combat to beat down Tyranitar and keep Heatran at bay.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Virizion's EV spread is fairly straightforward; it gives maximum Speed to outpace Pokemon under base 108 Speed, and causes a Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape. 252 HP EVs give Virizion respectable bulk, although its Defense will be a bit low. However, this is easily remedied by Reflect, so it's not a major problem. Nonetheless, if one is concerned about physical bulk, a spread with 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe and a Bold nature allows Virizion to take physical hits more respectably while still outspeeding neutral-natured Breloom, Tyranitar, and Dragonite. When using Virizion the first screen one should aim to set up, should usually be Reflect, unless facing a troublesome specially based attacker. That way, Virizion will always be able to make up for its low Defense stat. Light Clay is the item of choice because it prolongs dual screens by an extra three turns, allowing for longer setups and sweeps. Virizion does not need any team support to function well, as it is a supporter itself. Regardless, it is best paired with setup sweepers, such as Latias and Dragonite, who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens.</p>

<p>Teams looking for a Fire / Water / Grass core should consider Virizion for its resistances; in return, Virizion gains more opportunities to set up. Heatran is troublesome for this set to face because it can sponge hits and retaliate with a STAB, super effective Fire-type move, so a good partner would be a bulky Water-type. Vaporeon in particular works wonders because it can reliably beat Heatran and also give Wish support to Virizion, letting it set up screens multiple times. Faster Taunt users ruin this set, because without offensive investment, Virizion is fairly weak. Like all Virizion sets, this one hates facing Flying-type moves, including Hurricane from Dragonite and Tornadus, and Acrobatics from Gliscor. Even with dual screens up, Flying-type moves will most likely OHKO Virizion, so one should be cautious when playing against a user of said moves. Jirachi, Heatran, and Tyranitar work very well because they all resist Flying-type moves and benefit from dual screens support.</p>
 
#3
[SET]
name: Dual sScreens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Giga Drain / Close Combat
move 4: Taunt
item: Light Clay
nature: Timid / Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While one may be disappointed when looking at Virizion's stats, particularly its lackluster Defense stat, it is actually an effective dual screens user. Virizion's great Bbase 129 Special Defense, coupled with its resistance to Pursuit, allows it to set up on more threats than most dual screens users including Latias, Azelf, and EspeonLatias, Azelf, and Espeon can <it's a little unclear whether these examples refer to "other screeners" or "pokes virizion can set up on", hence the rephrase>. Additionally, with its great Bbase 108 Speed, Virizion has the capability to Taunt common entry hazard users and setup sweepers that would normally pose problems for most dual screen users (though Espeon can bounce back entry hazards due to its ability). Most dual screen users have a weakness to the ever-popular Rotom-W and Scizor VoltTurn core; however, Virizion idoes not affected much at all by Rotom-W and itfear Rotom-W and, with Reflect, can ensure that Scizor does not become too threatening with Reflect. While this set is mainly used for supporting purposes, one has a choice when picking an attack. While Close Combat offers insurance against the likes of Tyranitar and Blissey, one can opt for Giga Drain to both replenish health when necessary and check rain teams <being slightly nitpicky here, but i'd prefer you mention giga drain first.>.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Virizion's EV spread is fairly straightforward; it gives maximum Speed to outpace Pokemon under Bbase 108 Speed, ands well as Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape. 252 HP EVs give Virizion respectable bulk, though its Defense will be a bit low. However, this is easily remedied by Reflect, so it's not a major problem. HoweverNonetheless, if one is concerned about physical bulk, a spread with 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe and a Bold nature allows Virizion to take physical hits more respectably while still outspeeding <who?>. When using Virizion, the first screen to beone should aim to set up should usually be Reflect, unless facing a troublesome specially based attacker. That way, Virizion will always be able to make up for its low Defense stat. Light Clay is the item of choice because it prolongs dual screens by an extra 3three turns, allowing for longer setups and sweeps.</p>

<p>While Virizion does not need any team support to function well, as it is a supporter itself. Regardless, it is best paired with setup sweepers likesuch as Latias orand Dragonite to, who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens. Any team that needs a boost in their defenses will appreciate Virizion's presence, because its typing is favorable and it has the functionality to work well with any type of team <this is vague and reads like filler. why should virizion be used over other dual screens users? are there any specific benefits its typing brings it? if you've already made your point in the above section (countering voltturn, mainly) you can just remove this, actually>.</p>

<p>
. Any team that uses a Fire / Water / Grass core can use Virizion to patch up defenses and gain an easier setup of dual screens due to good synergyTeams looking for a Fire / Water / Grass core should consider Virizion for its resistances; in return, Virizion gains more opportunities to set up. Heatran is troublesome for this set to face because it can sponge hits and retaliate with a STAB, super effective Fire-type move, so a good partner would be a bulky Water-type. Vaporeon in particular works wonders because it can reliably beat Heatran and also give Wish support to Virizion, adding to the amount of times it can set up screenletting it set up screens multiple times. Faster Taunt users ruin this set, because without offensive investment in Attack or Special Attack, Virizion is fairly weak. Like all Virizion sets, Flying-type moves are awful to face. Thisthis Virizion hates facing Flying-type moves, includesing Hurricane from Dragonite and Tornadus, and Acrobatics from Gliscor. Even with dual screens up, Flying-type moves will most likely OHKO Virizion, so one should be cautious when playing against a user of said moves <perhaps suggest some rock/ steel types?>.</p>


[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Giga Drain / Close Combat
move 4: Taunt
item: Light Clay
nature: Timid / Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While one may be disappointed when looking at Virizion's stats, particularly its lackluster Defense stat, it is actually an effective dual screens user. Virizion's great base 129 Special Defense, coupled with its resistance to Pursuit, allows it to set up on more threats than Latias, Azelf, and Espeon can <it's a little unclear whether these examples refer to "other screeners" or "pokes virizion can set up on", hence the rephrase>. Additionally, with its great base 108 Speed, Virizion has the capability to Taunt common entry hazard users and setup sweepers that would normally pose problems for most dual screen users. Most dual screen users have a weakness to the ever-popular Rotom-W and Scizor VoltTurn core; however, Virizion does not fear Rotom-W and, with Reflect, can ensure that Scizor does not become too threatening. While this set is mainly used for supporting purposes, one has a choice when picking an attack. While Close Combat offers insurance against the likes of Tyranitar and Blissey, one can opt for Giga Drain to both replenish health when necessary and check rain teams <being slightly nitpicky here, but i'd prefer you mention giga drain first.>.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Virizion's EV spread is fairly straightforward; it gives maximum Speed to outpace Pokemon under base 108 Speed, as well as Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape. 252 HP EVs give Virizion respectable bulk, though its Defense will be a bit low. However, this is easily remedied by Reflect, so it's not a major problem. Nonetheless, if one is concerned about physical bulk, a spread with 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe and a Bold nature allows Virizion to take physical hits more respectably while still outspeeding <who?>. When using Virizion, the first screen one should aim to set up should usually be Reflect, unless facing a troublesome specially based attacker. That way, Virizion will always be able to make up for its low Defense stat. Light Clay is the item of choice because it prolongs dual screens by an extra three turns, allowing for longer setups and sweeps.</p>

<p>Virizion does not need any team support to function well, as it is a supporter itself. Regardless, it is best paired with setup sweepers such as Latias and Dragonite, who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens. Any team that needs a boost in their defenses will appreciate Virizion's presence, because its typing is favorable and it has the functionality to work well with any type of team <this is vague and reads like filler. why should virizion be used over other dual screens users? are there any specific benefits its typing brings it? if you've already made your point in the above section (countering voltturn, mainly) you can just remove this, actually>.</p>

<p>Teams looking for a Fire / Water / Grass core should consider Virizion for its resistances; in return, Virizion gains more opportunities to set up. Heatran is troublesome for this set to face because it can sponge hits and retaliate with a STAB, super effective Fire-type move, so a good partner would be a bulky Water-type. Vaporeon in particular works wonders because it can reliably beat Heatran and also give Wish support to Virizion, letting it set up screens multiple times. Faster Taunt users ruin this set, because without offensive investment, Virizion is fairly weak. Like all Virizion sets, this Virizion hates facing Flying-type moves, including Hurricane from Dragonite and Tornadus, and Acrobatics from Gliscor. Even with dual screens up, Flying-type moves will most likely OHKO Virizion, so one should be cautious when playing against a user of said moves <perhaps suggest some rock/ steel types?>.</p>
 
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[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Giga Drain / Close Combat
move 4: Taunt
item: Light Clay
nature: Timid / Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While one may be disappointed when looking at Virizion's stats, particularly its lackluster Defense stat, it is actually an effective dual screens user. Virizion's great base 129 Special Defense, coupled with its resistance to Pursuit, allows it to set up on morea greater number of threats than Latias, Azelf, and Espeon can{it's a little unclear whether these examples refer to "other screeners" or "pokes virizion can set up on", hence the rephrase}. Additionally, with its great base 108 Speed, Virizion has the capability to Taunt common entry hazard users and setup sweepers that would normally pose problems for most dual screen users. Most dual screen users have a weakness to the ever-popular Rotom-W and Scizor VoltTurn core; however, Virizion does not fear Rotom-W and, with Reflect, can ensure that Scizor does not become too threatening. While this set is mainly used for supporting purposes, one has a choice when picking an attack. While Close Combat offers insurance against the likes of Tyranitar and Blissey, one can opt for Giga Drain to both replenish health when necessary and check rain teams {being slightly nitpicky here, but i'd prefer you mention giga drain first.}.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Virizion's EV spread is fairly straightforward: it gives maximum Speed to outpace Pokemon under base 108 Speed, as well as Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape.Virizion's EV spread is fairly straightforward: maximum Speed lets Virizion outpace Pokemon under base 108 Speed, as well as Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape. 252 HP EVs give Virizion respectable bulk, although its Defense will be a bit low. However, this is easily remedied by Reflect, so it's not a major problem. Nonetheless, if one is concerned about physical bulk, a spread with 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe and a Bold nature allows Virizion to take physical hits more respectably while still outspeeding {who?}. When using Virizion, the first screen one should aim to set up should usually be Reflect, unless facing a troublesome specially based attacker. That way, Virizion will always be able to make up for its low Defense stat. Light Clay is the item of choice because it prolongs dual screens by an extra three turns, allowing for longer setups and sweeps.</p>

<p>
Virizion does not need any team support to function well, as it is a supporter itself. Regardless, it is best paired with setup sweepers,(comma) such as Latias and Dragonite, who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens. Any team that needs a boost in their defenses will appreciate Virizion's presence, because its typing is favorable and it has the functionality to work well with any type of team <this is vague and reads{as sirn said, that part seemed like a filler. why should virizion be used over other dual screens users? are there any specific benefits its typing brings it? if you've already made your point in the above section (countering voltturn, mainly) you can just remove this, actually>. feel free to include why its better than others, but I removed it nonetheless}</p>

<p>Teams looking for a Fire / Water / Grass core should consider Virizion for its resistances; in return, Virizion gains more opportunities to set up. Heatran is troublesome for this set to face because it can sponge hits and retaliate with a STAB, super effective Fire-type move, so a good partner would be a bulky Water-type. Vaporeon in particular works wonders because it can reliably beat Heatran and also give Wish support to Virizion, letting it set up screens multiple times. Faster Taunt users ruin this set, because without offensive investment, Virizion is fairly weak. Like all Virizion sets, this Virizione hates facing Flying-type moves, including Hurricane from Dragonite and Tornadus, and Acrobatics from Gliscor. Even with dual screens up, Flying-type moves will most likely OHKO Virizion, so one should be cautious when playing against a user of said moves {perhaps suggest some rock/ steel types?}.</p>
[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Giga Drain / Close Combat
move 4: Taunt
item: Light Clay
nature: Timid / Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While one may be disappointed when looking at Virizion's stats, particularly its lackluster Defense stat, it is actually an effective dual screens user. Virizion's great base 129 Special Defense, coupled with its resistance to Pursuit, allows it to set up on a greater number of threats than Latias, Azelf, and Espeon can{it's a little unclear whether these examples refer to "other screeners" or "pokes virizion can set up on", hence the rephrase}. Additionally, with its great base 108 Speed, Virizion has the capability to Taunt common entry hazard users and setup sweepers that would normally pose problems for most dual screen users. Most dual screen users have a weakness to the ever-popular Rotom-W and Scizor VoltTurn core; however, Virizion does not fear Rotom-W and, with Reflect, can ensure that Scizor does not become too threatening. While this set is mainly used for supporting purposes, one has a choice when picking an attack. While Close Combat offers insurance against the likes of Tyranitar and Blissey, one can opt for Giga Drain to both replenish health when necessary and check rain teams {being slightly nitpicky here, but i'd prefer you mention giga drain first.}.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Virizion's EV spread is fairly straightforward; it gives maximum Speed to outpace Pokemon under base 108 Speed, and causes a Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape. 252 HP EVs give Virizion respectable bulk, although its Defense will be a bit low. However, this is easily remedied by Reflect, so it's not a major problem. Nonetheless, if one is concerned about physical bulk, a spread with 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe and a Bold nature allows Virizion to take physical hits more respectably while still outspeeding {who?}. When using Virizion the first screen one should aim to set up, should usually be Reflect, unless facing a troublesome specially based attacker. That way, Virizion will always be able to make up for its low Defense stat. Light Clay is the item of choice because it prolongs dual screens by an extra three turns, allowing for longer setups and sweeps. Virizion does not need any team support to function well, as it is a supporter itself. Regardless, it is best paired with setup sweepers, such as Latias and Dragonite, who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens.{as sirn said, that part seemed like a filler, feel free to include why its better than others, but I removed it nonetheless}</p>

<p>Teams looking for a Fire / Water / Grass core should consider Virizion for its resistances; in return, Virizion gains more opportunities to set up. Heatran is troublesome for this set to face because it can sponge hits and retaliate with a STAB, super effective Fire-type move, so a good partner would be a bulky Water-type. Vaporeon in particular works wonders because it can reliably beat Heatran and also give Wish support to Virizion, letting it set up screens multiple times. Faster Taunt users ruin this set, because without offensive investment, Virizion is fairly weak. Like all Virizion sets, this one hates facing Flying-type moves, including Hurricane from Dragonite and Tornadus, and Acrobatics from Gliscor. Even with dual screens up, Flying-type moves will most likely OHKO Virizion, so one should be cautious when playing against a user of said moves {perhaps suggest some rock/ steel types?}.</p>

Will stamp once changes are made.
 
#5
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so sorry to have to do this, harsha, but considering i made quite a few comments / requested a few additions, i think this might need another check before it's done. :/

also, Badal, i actually disagree with a few of your changes D:

Virizion's great base 129 Special Defense, coupled with its resistance to Pursuit, allows it to set up on more a greater number of threats than Latias, Azelf, and Espeon can
the "can" there is necessary to prevent ambiguity - otherwise, it could possibly be read to mean "set up on Latias, Azelf, and Espeon, and more threats". while which meaning is probably obvious to people already familiar with pokes, IMO the entire issue is probably best avoided anyway :/

When using Virizion, the first screen one should aim to set up,(comma) should usually be Reflect
comma there is incorrect

one can opt for Giga Drain to both replenish health when necessary,(comma) and check rain teams
same


these changes aren't really 'wrong' per se, but I don't think they make it flow any better (on the contrary, actually :/ )

Regardless, it is best paired with setup sweepers,(comma) such as Latias and Dragonite, who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens.
this is probably the most debatable, but imo it flows better without the comma

however, Virizion does not fear Rotom-W and, with Reflect, can ensure that Scizor does non't become too threatening
not too clear why you changed this considering "does not" was used in noncontracted form earlier on in the sentence

it gives maximum Speed to outpace Pokemon under base 108 Speed, as well as and causes a Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape
i'm not very fond of the wording of "and causes a Speed tie with" - perhaps "and causes Virizion to Speed tie with"? :/ (eta: perhaps try this instead? "Virizion's EV spread is fairly straightforward: maximum Speed lets Virizion outpace Pokemon under base 108 Speed, as well as / and Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape")
 
#6
Discussed these with sirn, came to an agreement. It would be nice to have someone weigh in on the
Regardless, it is best paired with setup sweepers,(comma) such as Latias and Dragonite, who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens
EDIT: <Limi> i believe they are always ok when the removal of the relative clause doesn't change how the sentence is read

Apologies for jumping the gun and checking it before it was implemented. I'll stamp it once the changes have been implemented.
 

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#7
Err, so can I see a final list of changes to see what I need to work from? Sorry about that, but I'm not sure what version to start checking from.

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Giga Drain / Close Combat
move 4: Taunt
item: Light Clay
nature: Timid / Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While one may be disappointed when looking at Virizion's stats, particularly its lackluster Defense stat, it is actually an effective dual screens user. Virizion's great base 129 Special Defense, coupled with its resistance to Pursuit, allows it to set up on more threats than Latias, Azelf, and Espeon can . Additionally, with its great base 108 Speed, Virizion has the capability to Taunt common entry hazard users and setup sweepers that would normally pose problems for most dual screen users. Most dual screen users have a weakness to the ever-popular Rotom-W and Scizor VoltTurn core; however, Virizion does not fear Rotom-W and, with Reflect, can ensure that Scizor does not become too threatening. While this set is mainly used for supporting purposes, one has a choice when picking an attack. While Giga Drain works very well against rain teams, and it helps Virizion replenish health, Close Combat offers coverage against Tyranitar and can make Heatran pay for switching in.<p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Virizion's EV spread is fairly straightforward; it gives maximum Speed to outpace Pokemon under base 108 Speed, as well as Speed tie with Terrakion and Infernape. 252 HP EVs give Virizion respectable bulk, though its Defense will be a bit low. However, this is easily remedied by Reflect, so it's not a major problem. Nonetheless, if one is concerned about physical bulk, a spread with 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe and a Bold nature allows Virizion to take physical hits more respectably while still outspeeding neutral-natured Breloom, Dragonite, and Tyranitar. When using Virizion, the first screen one should aim to set up should usually be Reflect, unless facing a troublesome specially based attacker. That way, Virizion will always be able to make up for its low Defense stat. Light Clay is the item of choice because it prolongs dual screens by an extra three turns, allowing for longer setups and sweeps.</p>

<p>Virizion does not need any team support to function well, as it is a supporter itself. Regardless, it is best paired with setup sweepers such as Latias and Dragonite, who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens.</p>

<p>Teams looking for a Fire / Water / Grass core should consider Virizion for its resistances; in return, Virizion gains more opportunities to set up. Heatran is troublesome for this set to face because it can sponge hits and retaliate with a STAB, super effective Fire-type move, so a good partner would be a bulky Water-type. Vaporeon in particular works wonders because it can reliably beat Heatran and also give Wish support to Virizion, letting it set up screens multiple times. Faster Taunt users ruin this set, because without offensive investment, Virizion is fairly weak. Like all Virizion sets, this Virizion hates facing Flying-type moves, including Hurricane from Dragonite and Tornadus, and Acrobatics from Gliscor. Even with dual screens up, Flying-type moves will most likely OHKO Virizion, so one should be cautious when playing against a user of said moves. For this reason, Jirachi, Heatran, and other Pokemon that resist Flying-type moves work very well as partners.</p>
This is what I have right now.
 

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#9
lol um since when do we stack multiple gp checks on top of each other? i dunno if things have changed since i was an active checker, but im fairly sure we're supposed to wait for the OP to actually implement the first gp check before going ahead and doing another one......
 

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#10
You could just change the order of the words in the sentence, and have it read like this:

Regardless, it is best paired up with setup sweepers who can pull off longer and more effective sweeps behind screens, such as Latias and Dragonite.
 

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#11
Alright, Badal fixed the check to accommodate both poster's changes, and I implemented the latter check. Badal will be on tomorrow to finish it up, and then this will be done. Thanks guys!