You can try Chandelure with TR and Imprison to lock other trick room users, keeping heat wave and protect/shadow ball
-
Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules.
-
Congrats to the winners of the 2023 Smog Awards!
Weather or Not Here I Come!
- Thread starter Saboros
- Start date
That's a good idea, I was thinking that too, but that would also eliminate Sweeping capabilities. But I think I'll base the team around more on them not being able to get momentum rather than me getting momentum, all focused around sun and/or tailwind. Because momentum is everything in pokemon
I'm sorry, but if you want to keep sun, you really should drop Whimsicott. Most of the time it's easier to switch around then use a turn setting up. Whimsicott was a great Pokemon in 2011 because 99% of the time it stopped priority Thundurus/Tornadus which were on 99% of the teams, but they aren't nearly as common anymore. I'm going to agree with Zog and replace Whimsicott either with Nintails, which at least has good damage output, or just forgo sun entirely and replace Shiftry too. Half of your team is also Garchomp weak, with literally nothing that can OHKO it. I would suggest replacing Shiftry with Latios (OHKOs and outspeeds the common Garchomp) and Whimsicott with either Nintails, or a rain counter such as Gastrodon or Thundurus.
Terrakion will never use X-Scissor, and it doesn't OHKO anything, so you should replace that with Quick Attack. Priority is always useful.
Terrakion will never use X-Scissor, and it doesn't OHKO anything, so you should replace that with Quick Attack. Priority is always useful.
Yah, I'm doing that instead of running whimsicott with it.
I tried Gastrodon and man did it get raped by grass moves. But I guess I could run Ninetails *SOOOOBBB* and I guess I'll drop Shiftry with Latios too, can you give me some movesets though?
For Ninetales you can go here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3455125
and for Latios you can go here:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3455209
And Saboros ca you give me a moveset for Amoonguss on my team please? it will be much appreciated
EDIT: Be careful with Garchomps, they can have a choice scarf
Thanks, and sure, however with Amoonguss you can run many different effective EV Spreads, here's what i used in VGC 2011:
Sassy
Effect Spore
252HP/252Def/252SpDef
Giga Drain
Rage Powder
Spore
Protect
0 IV in Speed
With this guy, you'd use him in TR, with TR up you can totally abuse Spore and put the only other team to sleep, Rage Powder is for tanking hits you don't want other guy to. The Coba is to tank Flight Gem Acrobatics from Tornadus, this item is much more preferable than Black Sludge or even Mental Herb
I didn't know Amoongus got gastro acid, however i know what team your talking about, i saw the RMT. Usually you don't want to run Amoonguss outside of TR, but if you really want to, then I'd replace Giga Drain, because, when Amoongus gets taunted, it's pretty much screwed, even with Giga Drain. Or if you want an attacking more just in case your down to a 1v1 in the final match and all you have is your amoongus, I'd run Gastro Acid instead of Protect.
Why have you done it?
i'm not pretty sure about the third slot of uxie, it gets the pokemon too vulnerable to taunt, i think you should replace sunny day/helpin hand with an attack moe: psychic doesn't help you against tyrnitar, that is its bigger counter with crunch, energy ball/grass knot can help you against these three (politoed, tyranitar, hippowdon)
That's why it has a Mental Herb, so taunt wears off, and I need sunny day on Uxie because I can rely on switching out and switching in ninetails, which is way to frail to be doing that.
Yea, it's a useful item on non offensive mons like amoongus
Yah, in many ways I agree, however, if I run uxie, then I'm running Uxie,Latios and Gallade, three psychic types. I don't want 50% of my team to be weak to be weak to the same type, especially when that type has a priority move.
Well now I've decided to get rid of the sun oriented part of my team and just make it a bulky offense
suicune is bulkier than whimsicott and he learns tailwind too. Cresselia can take the role of uxie with more bulk and access to thunder wave, trick room, icy wind and helping ando, so she can provide good support for the team. metagross is another great pokemon for bulk offense like air baloon heatran or swampert, both of these three have good attack and defense stats expecially for swamper and metagross. Scizor can also help with excellent bulk and (banded) bullet punch. you can need a scarf user in the role of late-game sweeper, hydreigon can help with powerful STABs like dragon pulse and dark pulse. also scarf jellicent with water spout is good. reuniclus and conkelldurr are usefull in case against trick roomers, but you know, pokemons are 649 so it will be impossible to try all the combination, i can only suggest you to try all the combos as well as possible and then choose what's better