UU Weather Report: Sandstorm Incoming (Peaked at #17)

Discussion in 'BW Other Teams' started by Forte.EXE, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. Forte.EXE

    Forte.EXE

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    Introduction

    Honestly, this team came about because there's nothing better to do on the UU ladder than dick around right now until Round 3 of suspect testing starts up. So, I figured I'd try out Sandstorm and see how viable it is in UU without Hippowdon and Tyranitar. Turns out, it's very viable. Shout-outs go to everyone in the UU Sandstorm thread, since I used tidbits from their posts and past experience with Sand teams to create my own. I'm currently at #17 under the name "Yuno what it is" on Smogon's Standard UU leaderboard (as of writing this), which is also my peak.

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    Hippopotas @ Eviolite
    Ability: Sand Stream
    Nature: Impish (+Def, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP | 252 Def | 4 Spe
    - Stealth Rock
    - Toxic
    - Roar
    - Slack Off

    Hippopotas is obviously a necessary part of any Sand team in UU, being that it's the only Pokemon that can set up perma-Sand. I went with a physically defensive set, rather than investing in Special Defense to take weaker Scalds and Ice Beams. The moveset is pretty standard, only I left behind Earthquake and any Attack EVs. Hippopotas isn't going to damage to anything with its weak Earthquake anyways.

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    Stoutland @ Choice Band
    Ability: Sand Rush
    Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
    EVs: 252 Atk | 4 Def | 252 Spe
    - Frustration
    - Wild Charge
    - Fire Fang
    - Pursuit

    The first part of the StoutLurk offensive core that's been hyped up in the Sand Discussion thread. With over 500 Speed and 400 Attack (with Choice Band factored in), Stoutland is an absolute monster for Sand Offense. Band Adamant STAB Frustration hits like a truck off of base 100 Attack. Pursuit turns Stoutland into a powerful pseudo-trapper, Fire Fang hits annoying Steel-types like Registeel, and Wild Charge removes bulky Water-types. Half of the time, I don't even use anything but Frustration and Pursuit because they work so perfectly together. Get Stoutland in on something that's sure to switch out (probably to a Ghost to take the predicted Frustration), Pursuit it for some decent damage, then switch out again. Immunity to Ghost-type attacks, which covers Golurk, while Golurk covers the Fighting-type weakness.

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    Golurk @ Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Fist
    Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
    EVs: 248 HP | 252 Atk | 8 Spe
    - Substitute
    - Focus Punch
    - Shadow Punch
    - Earthquake / Stone Edge

    Golurk is the second part of the StoutLurk combination. SubPunch Golurk sets up on Toxic-less Hitmontop (even if they have Foresight, they need to spend a turn using it, allowing me to Sub up), Choice-locked Heracross, and just Fighting-types in general. It's a shame that Golurk doesn't have a better Ghost attack to abuse, since Shadow Punch kind of sucks, but STAB Earthquake is always nice. I'm debating on switching to Stone Edge however, to deal with Zapdos and other such annoying Flying-types, but then I lose the ability to hit Nidoqueen for anything more than peanuts. 8 Speed EVs to outspeed 4 Speed Golurk, because speed creep is fun. It's Ghost weakness is remedied by Stoutland (and Houndoom, if I want to risk it), Water absorbed by Gastrodon.

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    Houndoom @ Life Orb
    Ability: Flash Fire
    Nature: Hasty (+Spe, -Def)
    EVs: 252 Atk | 4 SpA | 252 Spe
    - Sucker Punch
    - Crunch / HP Grass
    - Pursuit
    - Overheat

    My true trapper and WoW + Taunt Mew counter. Houndoom works hard to remove all those pesky Ghost-types so that I can spam Frustration with Stoutland the entire match without consequence. Three Dark-type attacks is a bit excessive though, so I've been contemplating switching out Crunch for HP Grass, to smack Rhyperior with for a 2HKO in Sand. Overheat is because I'll probably be switching Houndoom in and out constantly, and I don't have any other Special Attacks, so the drop isn't that harmful. Been thinking about switching Life Orb to Blackglasses, since I'm mostly spamming Sucker Punch and Pursuit, along with the occasional Crunch, for the majority of the match and LO recoil + Sand + entry hazards adds up quick as fuck.

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    Gastrodon @ Life Orb
    Ability: Storm Drain
    Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP | 252 SpA | 4 Spe
    - Surf
    - Earth Power
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover

    Specs suck, because I like changing moves with Gastrodon. LO isn't that bad, considering I can just Recover off the recoil, and Leftovers hits like a little bitch. Surf and Earth Power are your typical STAB attacks, with Ice Beam around for Grass switch-ins like Roserade and Celebi. No Speed investment, since there really isn't anything that Gastrodon can outspeed without a large portion of HP EVs being dumped into Speed. Storm Drain for the +1 boost and immunity, etc, etc. Recover isn't used that often, but helps out occasionally with LO recoil and entry hazards.

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    Sigilyph @ Flame Orb
    Ability: Magic Guard
    Nature: Calm (+SpD, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP | 4 Def | 252 SpD
    - Cosmic Power
    - Roost
    - Psycho Shift
    - Stored Power

    An unexpected late-game cleaner. Sigilyph is the motor of this team, in that it takes a while for it to get going, but once it starts, it rarely stops. Once the opposing team's Phazer (or Hazer) is removed, Sigilyph can really go to town. Heracross is a problem for Sigilyph before it manages a decent amount of boosts, with Stone Edge hitting for quite a bit of damage. Luckily, I can get Gastrodon in on it and set up a Substitute. Heal Bell Umbreon is also a problem for Sigilyph, but eventually it comes down to stalling out Heal Bell's PP until I can Psycho Shift a Burn (or Badly Poisoned status, if they used Toxic on me on the turn of shifting a Burn onto them) and just waste as much of their PP as possible. Sigilyph is a real team player, supporting with weakening physical sweepers, nullifying Ground attacks, taking status', and just generally being a cool as fuck Pokemon.

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  2. Rackham

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    Hi there, this is a cool team, and I think I've faced it on the ladder a couple of times.

    The first thing that I'm going to say is that this team has problems against strong physical attackers. Particularly attacks from Heracross and Mamoswine. You have nothing that can reliably take a Heracross Megahorn, especially if it gets a guts boost off Sigilyph and nothing can take an Icicle Crash or EQ from Mamo. You can revenge them, but nothing can switch in. As a result, Choice Scarf Heracross and LO Mamoswine will cause you a ton of problems (Adamant Scarf Heracross 3HKOs Golurk and Hippopotas after rocks damage). Your team is also extremely succeptible to hazards and can be worn down quickly by forcing switches, which is not difficult considering the nature of this team. Thankfully, there is a quick fix for all of these problems. I suggest replacing Golurk for Defensive Hitmontop.

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    name: Rapid Spin
    move 1: Rapid Spin
    move 2: Foresight
    move 3: Close Combat
    move 4: Sucker Punch / Rest
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Intimidate
    nature: Impish
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD


    This also helps against Hail teams, who naturally have the edge over sand teams in UU. Although this is part of your StoutLurk combo, you already have Houndoom who removes ghosts effectively.

    Another problem Pokemon, although this time defensive, is Spiritomb. Houndoom is the only Pokemon that can safely switch in on it, yet cannot Pursuit-trap it like other Ghost-types. This is a big problem since it is a huge headache for the rest of your team (although Hitmontop can hit it with CC if it foresights on the switch). As a result, I suggest a slightly different Sigilyph set, which would allow you to muscle past it if you need to:

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    name: Calm Mind Attacker
    move 1: Calm Mind
    move 2: Stored Power
    move 3: Roost
    move 4: Air Slash
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    ability: Magic Guard
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def/ 6 Spe


    I hope this helps, and wish you good luck on the ladder.
  3. Forte.EXE

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  4. UsernameSayWha

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    I can't really pick at the team but, you can run CurseRest Cradily with Storm Drain which generally outclasses bulky sweeper Gastrodon.
  5. casey90

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    Hi, I agree with what Rackham said about the hera weakness, but I'd say that also applies to SD cobalion, who can beat pretty much everything on the team, and can't be revenged due to typing. Hitmontop would go a long way there but perhaps try slowbro over gastrodon as well. Regenerator would give it increased longetivity and the electric weak is less important as you have two ground types, and the added ghost and dark weaks are prime switches for houndoom.

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