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Whimsicott (QC 3/3) [GP 2/2]

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by DittoCrow, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. DittoCrow

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    Whimsicott

    [Overview]

    <p>Despite its poor reputation and downfall from OU, Whimsicott still has a niche in RU. With Prankster and a seemingly endless list of good support moves including Stun Spore, Taunt, Encore, Memento, and Tailwind, Whimsicott can provide support for a variety of teams; this includes, and is not limited to: spreading status through Stun Spore and Toxic, using Taunt to prevent the opponent from setting up, and providing Sunny Day support for a sun team. However, due to its lackluster offensive stats, Whimsicott is limited to a supporting role. Unfortunately, Whimsicott's bulk is also mediocre, and its lack of a reliable recovery move is a major disappointment. Finally, after Whimsicott performs its job, it will usually become dead weight, as it poses no threat offensively and has no way outside of Leftovers and Leech Seed—which is blocked by opposing Grass-types—to recover its health. Whimsicott has a good Grass typing, but it is outclassed by other Grass-types such as Tangrowth and Sceptile. Nevertheless, if you're looking for a Grass-type pivot that can prevent the opponent from setting up, spread paralysis, and scout the opponent, Whimsicott will have no trouble filling that role.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Stun Spore
    move 2: U-turn / Memento
    move 3: Encore
    move 4: Taunt / Giga Drain / Leech Seed
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Whimsicott's best set, and can be manipulated to fit onto a wide variety of teams. Prioritized Stun Spore is extremely annoying for the opponent, especially when it can paralyze Ground-type Pokemon that are normally immune to Thunder Wave—this can greatly aid a slower sweeper, such as Nidoqueen, and give it the opportunity to sweep. U-turn gives Whimsicott the ability to scout the opponent and safely bring in a teammate after it has successfully paralyzed the foe. If you would like to bring in a teammate that is a setup sweeper, then Memento may be more appealing, as it will most likely force the opponent to switch out, giving your sweeper a free turn to set up. Encore is another reliable way to force switches and aid setup sweepers, as forcing your opponent to continually use a move such as Protect will provide a massive setup opportunity for a teammate. The moves in the first three moveslots are mainly for team support, and should always be used in tandem with slow offensive Pokemon or setup sweepers.</p>

    <p>The last slot is more dependent on your team's needs. Taunt can prevent any Pokemon without Magic Coat or Magic Bounce from setting up; this is especially useful if you have a Pokemon such as Moltres that is weak to entry hazards, as Whimsicott can almost always prevent Stealth Rock from being set up using Taunt. Giga Drain is Whimsicott's best weapon against the likes of Rhydon, Omastar, Kabutops, Feraligatr, and other Water- and Rock-types; note that Whimsicott cannot touch these Pokemon if it is not running Giga Drain. Finally, Leech Seed can be used to increase Whimsicott's longevity and force switches, which is very useful on a team with multiple layers of entry hazards. However, do not use Leech Seed in tandem with Substitute, as Whimsicott will be easily walled by opposing Grass-types and thus have more trouble supporting your team.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>252 HP and 252 Defense EVs are used in order to take as many physical hits as possible from the likes of Kabutops and Feraligatr; most special attackers would beat Whimsicott regardless of investment, such as Moltres, Nidoqueen, and Sceptile, and its Grass typing is more effective for walling physical threats in RU. A Bold nature is used to raise Whimsicott's Defense; it lowers Attack, but because Whimsicott's Attack stat is already very low, U-turn should not be used for dealing damage.</p>

    <p>Thanks to its plethora of support moves, Whimsicott's moveset is extremely flexible—mix and match to your heart's content. Sunny Day can be used to support and be part of a sun team, but again, Whimsicott won't be dealing more than a handful of damage. Tailwind is quite useful, as it will raise the Speed of Whimsicott and its teammates for four turns; slower Pokemon, such as Nidoqueen and Feraligatr, benefit most from this. If Whimsicott's team doesn't need paralysis support, Stun Spore can be replaced with Toxic, an alternative status move. Toxic is handy as it wears down opposing walls and cripples faster Pokemon that tend to use Substitute, such as Sceptile. Finally, Light Screen can be used to support Whimsicott's team and give it more opportunities to spread paralysis.</p>

    <p>As for teammates, Nidoqueen benefits the most from Whimsicott. It greatly appreciates paralysis support, as its low base 76 Speed hinders its ability to sweep; it also enjoys the safe switch-in opportunities that Whimsicott's U-turn brings. Setup sweepers, such as Omastar, Lilligant, Mesprit, Feraligatr, Crawdaunt, Gallade, and Linoone love Whimsicott's Memento or Encore support, as it forces the opponent to switch and helps them set up more easily. Linoone especially likes to have this support, as it will be able to set up Belly Drum without worrying about being KOed in the process. Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock or Spikes, such as Moltres and Magmortar, really enjoy having Whimsicott as a teammate, as Whimsicott can prevent hazards from being set up by even the fastest Pokemon, such as Aerodactyl, with Taunt. Whimsicott benefits from Pokemon that can eliminate Bouffalant and Sawsbuck, as they both have the Sap Sipper ability and will gain an Attack boost if they are hit by Stun Spore, Giga Drain, or Leech Seed; Cofagrigus, Steelix, and Fighting-types are all good options, as they can burn, wall, and severely damage the opponent, respectively. Entry hazards take their toll on Whimsicott, so Rapid Spin support is appreciated, especially from the likes of Kabutops, as Whimsicott can help it set up a Swords Dance with Encore.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>If you thought that Whimsicott's movepool ended there, then you've guessed wrong. Whimsicott has a plethora of other options, but they're relatively poor compared to the options already mentioned. It can use Switcheroo to cripple an opponent with a Choice item or status Orb. Cotton Guard sharply raises Whimsicott's Defense, but Whimsicott doesn't have a lot to do outside of Leech Seed, and will become rather useless. Cotton Spore can be used to lower the opponent's Speed, but Stun Spore is usually better at slowing down the opposition. Fake Tears is a move that lowers the target's Special Defense stat, and can be used to deal more damage with Giga Drain or SolarBeam. An offensive set with Growth, Giga Drain, Hidden Power Rock or Fire, and Shadow Ball will surprise the opponent, but sadly, one Growth won't cure Whimsicott's terrible base 77 Special Attack stat. A Sunny Day set with SolarBeam is also an option, but again, Whimsicott can't put SolarBeam to much use because of its poor Special Attack. Tickle is another move that affects the opponent's stats, lowering the target's Attack and Defense by one stage. Whimsicott has access to Trick Room, but Whimsicott cannot make use of it due to its high Speed. Hurricane can be used to hit opposing Grass-types such as Sceptile, Tangrowth, and Lilligant, but sadly, Whimsicott does not learn Rain Dance so it will be stuck with a 70% accurate move. GrassWhistle, although it has horrible accuracy, can infuriate the opponent if it hits. As for the final move, Whimsicott can use Substitute to scout the opponent or avoid status. However, it is not advised to use the SubSeed combination, as it is walled by a plethora of Pokemon, mainly Grass-types, and is generally a waste of a moveslot.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Pokemon with Sap Sipper, such as Bouffalant, Miltank, and Sawsbuck, are immune to and get an Attack boost if hit by Stun Spore, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain. Cryogonal is another great check, as it can spin away Leech Seed and hit hard with Ice Beam. Roselia completely walls Whimsicott, as it can cure itself of status upon switching out with Natural Cure and can kill Whimsicott with Sludge Bomb; Amoonguss is similar to Roselia, but dislikes being Encored. Escavalier doesn't mind being paralyzed, as it already has terrible Speed, and it can OHKO Whimsicott with a STAB Megahorn. Anything that can OHKO Whimsicott will force it to switch out or KO if it uses a support move. This includes Accelgor, Archeops, Drapion, Entei, Galvantula, Jynx, Magmortar, Moltres, Nidoqueen, Scolipede, Scyther, Sigilyph, and Typhlosion. Rotom-C and Entei can check Whimsicott well, but they dislike paralysis. Thus, Pokemon with Heal Bell, such as Clefable and Miltank, are good at combating Whimsicott as they can rid their team of Whimsicott's paralysis. Pokemon with Natural Cure, such as Altaria and the aforementioned Roselia, also don't mind paralysis, as they will be cured upon switching out. Natu and Pokemon with Magic Coat such as Smeargle can reflect Whimsicott's moves, rendering Whimsicott useless. Lastly, Whimsicott gets worn down easily, especially by entry hazards, as it will be constantly switching in and out. Constant pressure from any of the above Pokemon will lead to Whimsicott's downfall.</p>
  2. Mazz

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    Tiny nitpick, but you've mentioned Switcheroo twice in OO.
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    1) Whimsicott learns endeavor, which could be used on a trick room set to cripple at least one opponent, but its almost completely outclassed by smeargle, so put it in OO

    2) add the mighty level 1 bulbasaur to C&C please

    3) Subseed is a terrible set thats performed better by sceptile and even jumpluff, i personally think it shouldnt be mentioned ANYWHERE to discourage the ladder kids from using it.

    4) this actually looks pretty okay, support is the only set worth using except possibly sunny day+memento

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    5) Add Gothitelle as a teammate, it really benefits from prankster memento to get free set up against the various pokemon in the tier, it can also use stun spore to slow things down for her

    tentative approval, ill see if i notice anything later
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    -Slash in Giga Drain so you can do something to Kabutops outside of U-turning out definitely

    -Blara and I used a support lead set with enough speed to beat Jolly tops, and Taunt to stop lead Uxie from Stealth Rocking. I would atleast mention using enough spe to beat jolly tops

    -Clefable in checks and counters. Takes nothing from Leech Seed and doesnt really care about being paralyzed too much

    Definitely mention how bad sub seed is like molk said, as it gets walled by any grass pokemon...

    Oh and Rotom-c can beat Whimsi i guess but doesnt like paralysis, although neither do entei/nido/the other mons you put in C&C so i see no harm in adding it, although come to think of it you should mention something about how those mons dont like paralysis

    The mighty limber hitmonlee wrecks Whimsi too j/s
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    Talked to you about this on irc, this looks good now so:

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    QC APPROVED 1/3
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    Slash Bold for Giga Drain

    [qc]2/3[/qc]
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    okay, my last QC will stand

    QC approved 3/3
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    ready for gp checks!
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    [Overview]

    <p>Despite Whimsicott's poor reputation and fall from OU all the way to RU, it still has a niche. With Prankster and a seemingly endless list of good support moves including Stun Spore, Taunt, Encore, Memento, and Tailwind, Whimsicott can provide support for a variety of teams. This includes spreading status through Stun Spore and Toxic, using Taunt to prevent the opponent from setting up, and providing Sunny Day support for a sun team. However, Whimsicott is limited to its supporting abilities, as Whimsicott is extremely lackluster offensively. Its bulk is also quite mediocre, and the lack of reliable recovery in a move such as Recover is a major disappointment. Finally, after Whimsicott performs its job, it will usually become dead weight, as it poses no threat offensively and has no way outside of Leftovers and Leech Seed—which is taken care of by opposing Grass-types—to recover its health. Finally, Whimsicott has a good Grass typing, but it is outclassed by other Grass-types such as Tangrowth and Sceptile. Nevertheless, if you need a Grass-type pivot that can prevent the opponent from setting up, spread paralysis, and scout the opponent, then Whimsicott will have no trouble filling that role.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Stun Spore
    move 2: U-turn / Memento
    move 3: Encore
    move 4: Taunt / Giga Drain / Leech Seed
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Whimsicott's best set, but it can be manipulated based on your team's needs. Priority paralysis in Stun Spore is extremely annoying, especially because Stun Spore can paralyze Ground-type Pokemon who are normally immune to Thunder Wave. This can greatly aid a slow sweeper, such as Nidoqueen, and allow it to sweep. Next, U-turn lets Whimsicott scout the opponent and safely bring in a teammate after it has successfully paralyzed the foe. If you would like to bring in a teammate that is a setup sweeper, then Memento may be more appealing, as it will most likely force the opponent to switch out, giving your sweeper a free turn to set up. Encore is another move that forces switches and aids setup sweepers, as forcing your opponent to continually use a move such as Protect will provide a massive setup opportunity for a teammate. The moves in the first three moveslots are mainly for team support, and should always be used in tandem with slow, offensive Pokemon or setup sweepers.</p>

    <p>The last slot is more dependent on your team's needs: Prankster Taunt can prevent any Pokemon without Magic Coat or Magic Bounce from setting up; this is especially useful if you have a Pokemon such as Moltres that is weak to entry hazards, as Whimsicott can almost always prevent Stealth Rock from being set up with Taunt. Giga Drain is Whimsicott's weapon against the likes of Rhydon, Omastar, Kabutops, Feraligatr, and other Water-types; a Grass-type Pokemon is usually used in order to beat these Pokemon, and Whimsicott cannot touch them if it is not running Giga Drain. Finally, Leech Seed can be used to increase Whimsicott's longevity and force switches, which is very useful on a team with entry hazards. However, do not use Leech Seed in tandem with Substitute, as Whimsicott will be easily walled by opposing Grass-types and thus have more trouble supporting your team.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>252 HP and 252 Defense EVs are used in order to take as many hits as possible from physical attackers such as Kabutops and Feraligatr; most special attackers beat Whimsicott such as Moltres, Nidoqueen, and Sceptile, and Grass typing is better used in RU for walling physical threats. A Bold nature is used in order to raise Whimsicott's Defense; it lowers Attack, but because Whimsicott's Attack stat is already very weak, U-turn should not be used for dealing damage. However, if not using Giga Drain, an Impish nature can be used instead.</p>

    <p>Due to Whimsicott's plethora of support moves, its moveset is extremely flexible, so use whatever suits Whimsicott's team. Sunny Day can be used on a sun team, and Whimsicott and even use SolarBeam to deal some damage to the opponent. Tailwind is quite useful, as it will raise the Speed of Whimsicott and its teammates for four turns; this is very useful for slower Pokemon such as Nidoqueen and Feraligatr. If Whimsicott's team does not need paralysis support, it can replace it with another status move, Toxic. Toxic will wear down opposing walls and cripple faster Pokemon that tend to use Substitute, such as Sceptile. Finally, Light Screen can be used to support Whimsicott's team or even to allow Whimsicott to spread paralysis with greater ease.</p>

    <p>As for teammates, Nidoqueen benefits the most from Whimsicott. It greatly appreciates paralysis support, as its low base 76 Speed hinders its ability to sweep; it also enjoys the safe switch-in opportunities that Whimsicott's U-turn brings. Setup sweepers, such as Omastar, Lilligant, Mesprit, Feraligatr, Crawdaunt, and Gallade, love Whimsicott's Memento or Encore support, as it helps them set up more easily. Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock or Spikes, such as Moltres and Magmortar, really enjoy having Whimsicott on their team, as Whimsicott can prevent hazards from being set up from even the fastest Pokemon, such as Aerodactyl, with Taunt. Whimsicott benefits from Pokemon that can eliminate Bouffalant and Sawsbuck, (AC) such as Cofagrigus, Steelix, and Fighting-types. As both enemy Pokemon have the Sap Sipper ability, they will gain an Attack boost if they are hit by Stun Spore, Giga Drain, or Leech Seed. Whimsicott hates hazards, so Rapid Spin support is appreciated, especially from the likes of Kabutops, as Whimsicott can help it set up a Swords Dance with Encore.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>If you thought that Whimsicott's movepool ended there, then you guessed wrong. Whimsicott has a plethora of other options, but they are usually not as good as the ones already mentioned. It can use Switcheroo to cripple an opponent with a Choice item or status Orb. Cotton Guard is an option that sharply raises Whimsicott's Defense, but Whimsicott will usually just sit there. Cotton Spore can be used to lower the opponent's Speed, but Stun Spore is usually better at slowing down the opposition. Fake Tears is a move that lowers the target's Special Defense stat, and can be used to deal more damage with Giga Drain or SolarBeam. An offensive set with Growth, Giga Drain, Hidden Power Rock or Fire, and Shadow Ball will surprise the opponent, but sadly, one Growth won't cure Whimsicott's terrible base 77 Special Attack. A Sunny Day set with SolarBeam is also an option, but again, Whimsicott can't put SolarBeam to much use because of its poor Special Attack. Tickle is another move that affects the opponent's stats, lowering the target's Attack and Defense by one stage. Whimsicott can use Trick Room, but Whimsicott itself cannot make use of it due to its high base 116 Speed. Hurricane can be used to hit opposing Grass-types such as Sceptile, Tangrowth, and Lilligant, but sadly, Whimsicott does not learn Rain Dance so it will be stuck with a 70% accurate move. Grasswhistle, although it has horrible accuracy, can infuriate the opponent if it hits. As for the final move, Whimsicott can use Substitute to scout the opponent or avoid status. However, it is not advised to use the SubSeed combination, as it is walled by a plethora of Pokemon, mainly Grass-types, and is generally a waste of a moveslot.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Pokemon with the ability Sap Sipper, such as Bouffalant, Miltank, and Sawsbuck, are immune to Stun Spore, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain and will get an Attack boost if hit by one of those Grass-type moves. Cryogonal is a great check, as it can spin away Leech Seed and hit hard with Ice Beam. Roselia completely walls Whimsicott, as it can cure itself of status upon switching out with Natural Cure and can kill Whimsicott with Sludge Bomb; Amoonguss is similar to Roselia, but dislikes being Encored. Escavalier doesn't mind being paralyzed, as it already has terrible Speed, and it can OHKO Whimsicott with a STAB Megahorn. Anything that can OHKO Whimsicott will force it to switch out or faint if it uses a support move. This includes: Accelgor, Archeops, Drapion, Entei, Galvantula, Jynx, Magmortar, Moltres, Nidoqueen, Scolipede, Scyther, Sigilyph, and Typhlosion. Rotom-C and Entei can check Whimsicott well, but they dislike paralysis. Thus, Pokemon with Heal Bell such as Clefable and Miltank are good at combating Whimsicott as they can rid their team of Whimsicott's paralysis. Pokemon with Natural Cure such as Altaria and the aforementioned Roselia also don't mind paralysis, as they will be cured upon switching out. Natu and Pokemon with Magic Coat such as Smeargle can reflect Whimsicott's moves, rendering Whimsicott useless. Lastly, Whimsicott gets worn down easily, especially by hazards, as it will be constantly switching in and out. Constant pressure from any of the above Pokemon will lead to Whimsicott's downfall.</p>
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    Changed some stuff, thanks :)
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    [Overview]

    <p>Despite Whimsicott's poor reputation and its fall from OU all the way to RU, it still has a niche. With Prankster and a seemingly endless list of good support moves including Stun Spore, Taunt, Encore, Memento, and Tailwind, Whimsicott can provide support for a variety of teams. This includes spreading status through Stun Spore and Toxic, using Taunt to prevent the opponent from setting up, and providing Sunny Day support for a sun team. However, Whimsicott is limited to its supporting abilities, as Whimsicott is extremely lackluster offensively. Its bulk is also quite mediocre, and its lack of reliable recovery in a move such as Recover is a major disappointment. Finally, after Whimsicott performs its job, it will usually become dead weight, as it poses no threat offensively and has no way outside of Leftovers and Leech Seed—which is blocked by opposing Grass-types—to recover its health. Finally, Whimsicott has a good Grass typing, but it is outclassed by other Grass-types such as Tangrowth and Sceptile. Nevertheless, if you need a Grass-type pivot that can prevent the opponent from setting up, spread paralysis, and scout the opponent, Whimsicott will have no trouble filling that role.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Stun Spore
    move 2: U-turn / Memento
    move 3: Encore
    move 4: Taunt / Giga Drain / Leech Seed
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Whimsicott's best set, but it can be manipulated based on your team's needs. Priority paralysis in Stun Spore is extremely annoying, especially because Stun Spore can paralyze Ground-type Pokemon who are normally immune to Thunder Wave. This can greatly aid a slow sweeper, such as Nidoqueen, and allow it to sweep. U-turn lets Whimsicott scout the opponent and safely bring in a teammate after it has successfully paralyzed the foe. If you would like to bring in a teammate that is a setup sweeper, then Memento may be more appealing, as it will most likely force the opponent to switch out, giving your sweeper a free turn to set up. Encore is another move that forces switches and aids setup sweepers, as forcing your opponent to continually use a move such as Protect will provide a massive setup opportunity for a teammate. The moves in the first three moveslots are mainly for team support, and should always be used in tandem with slow offensive Pokemon or setup sweepers.</p>

    <p>The last slot is more dependent on your team's needs: Prankster Taunt can prevent any Pokemon without Magic Coat or Magic Bounce from setting up; this is especially useful if you have a Pokemon such as Moltres that is weak to entry hazards, as Whimsicott can almost always prevent Stealth Rock from being set up using Taunt. Giga Drain is Whimsicott's weapon against the likes of Rhydon, Omastar, Kabutops, Feraligatr, and other Water-types; a Grass-type Pokemon is usually used in order to beat these Pokemon, and Whimsicott cannot touch them if it is not running Giga Drain. Finally, Leech Seed can be used to increase Whimsicott's longevity and force switches, which is very useful on a team with entry hazards. However, do not use Leech Seed in tandem with Substitute, as Whimsicott will be easily walled by opposing Grass-types and thus have more trouble supporting your team.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>252 HP and 252 Defense EVs are used in order to take as many hits as possible from physical attackers such as Kabutops and Feraligatr; most special attackers would beat Whimsicott regardless of investment, such as Moltres, Nidoqueen, and Sceptile, and a Grass typing is better used in RU for walling physical threats. A Bold nature is used in order to raise Whimsicott's Defense; it lowers Attack, but because Whimsicott's Attack stat is already very low, U-turn should not be used for dealing damage.</p>

    <p>Due to Whimsicott's plethora of support moves, its moveset is extremely flexible, so use whatever suits Whimsicott's team. Sunny Day can be used on a sun team, and Whimsicott can even use SolarBeam to deal some damage to the opponent. Tailwind is quite useful, as it will raise the Speed of Whimsicott and its teammates for four turns; this is very useful for slower Pokemon such as Nidoqueen and Feraligatr. If Whimsicott's team does not need paralysis support, Stun Spore can be replaced with another status move: Toxic. Toxic will wear down opposing walls and cripple faster Pokemon that tend to use Substitute, such as Sceptile. Finally, Light Screen can be used to support Whimsicott's team or even to allow Whimsicott to spread paralysis with more ease.</p>

    <p>As for teammates, Nidoqueen benefits the most from Whimsicott. It greatly appreciates paralysis support, as its low base 76 Speed hinders its ability to sweep; it also enjoys the safe switch-in opportunities that Whimsicott's U-turn brings. Setup sweepers, such as Omastar, Lilligant, Mesprit, Feraligatr, Crawdaunt, and Gallade, love Whimsicott's Memento or Encore support, as it helps them set up more easily. Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock or Spikes, such as Moltres and Magmortar, really enjoy having Whimsicott on their team, as Whimsicott can prevent hazards from being set up from even the fastest Pokemon, such as Aerodactyl, with Taunt. Whimsicott benefits from Pokemon that can eliminate Bouffalant and Sawsbuck such as Cofagrigus, Steelix, and Fighting-types, as they both have the Sap Sipper ability and will gain an Attack boost if they are hit by Stun Spore, Giga Drain, or Leech Seed. Whimsicott hates hazards, so Rapid Spin support is appreciated, especially from the likes of Kabutops, as Whimsicott can help it set up a Swords Dance with Encore.(needs more memento spam AMIRITE? but in all seriousness you should add linoone as a partner)</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>If you thought that Whimsicott's movepool ended there, then you guessed wrong. Whimsicott has a plethora of other options, but they are usually not as good as the ones already mentioned. It can use Switcheroo to cripple an opponent with a Choice item or status Orb. Cotton Guard is an option that sharply raises Whimsicott's Defense, but Whimsicott will usually just sit there. Cotton Spore can be used to lower the opponent's Speed, but Stun Spore is usually better at slowing down the opposition. Fake Tears is a move that lowers the target's Special Defense stat, and can be used to deal more damage with Giga Drain or SolarBeam. An offensive set with Growth, Giga Drain, Hidden Power Rock or Fire, and Shadow Ball will surprise the opponent, but sadly, one Growth won't cure Whimsicott's terrible base 77 Special Attack. A Sunny Day set with SolarBeam is also an option, but again, Whimsicott can't put SolarBeam to much use because of its poor Special Attack. Tickle is another move that affects the opponent's stats, lowering the target's Attack and Defense by one stage. Whimsicott can use Trick Room, but Whimsicott itself cannot make use of it due to its high base 116 Speed. Hurricane can be used to hit opposing Grass-types such as Sceptile, Tangrowth, and Lilligant, but sadly, Whimsicott does not learn Rain Dance so it will be stuck with a 70% accurate move. Grasswhistle, although it has horrible accuracy, can infuriate the opponent if it hits. As for the final move, Whimsicott can use Substitute to scout the opponent or avoid status. However, it is not advised to use the SubSeed combination, as it is walled by a plethora of Pokemon, mainly Grass-types, and is generally a waste of a moveslot.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Pokemon with the ability Sap Sipper, such as Bouffalant, Miltank, and Sawsbuck, are immune to Stun Spore, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain and will get an Attack boost if hit by one of those Grass-type moves. Cryogonal is a great check, as it can spin away Leech Seed and hit hard with Ice Beam. Roselia completely walls Whimsicott, as it can cure itself of status upon switching out with Natural Cure and can kill Whimsicott with Sludge Bomb; Amoonguss is similar to Roselia, but dislikes being Encored. Escavalier doesn't mind being paralyzed, as it already has terrible Speed, and it can OHKO Whimsicott with a STAB Megahorn. Anything that can OHKO Whimsicott will force it to switch out or faint if it uses a support move. This includes Accelgor, Archeops, Drapion, Entei, Galvantula, Jynx, Magmortar, Moltres, Nidoqueen, Scolipede, Scyther, Sigilyph, and Typhlosion. Rotom-C and Entei can check Whimsicott well, but they dislike paralysis. Thus, Pokemon with Heal Bell such as Clefable and Miltank are good at combating Whimsicott as they can rid their team of Whimsicott's paralysis. Pokemon with Natural Cure such as Altaria and the aforementioned Roselia also don't mind paralysis, as they will be cured upon switching out. Natu and Pokemon with Magic Coat such as Smeargle can reflect Whimsicott's moves, rendering Whimsicott useless. Lastly, Whimsicott gets worn down easily, especially by hazards, as it will be constantly switching in and out. Constant pressure from any of the above Pokemon will lead to Whimsicott's downfall.</p>


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    <p>Despite Whimsicott's its poor reputation and its downfall from OU all the way to RU, it Whimsicott can function reasonably well in the RU tier still has a niche. With Prankster and a seemingly endless list of good support moves including Stun Spore, Taunt, Encore, Memento, and Tailwind, Whimsicott can provide support for a variety of teams; this includes, and is not limited to: spreading status through Stun Spore and Toxic, using Taunt to prevent the opponent from setting up, and providing Sunny Day support for a sun team. However, due to its lackluster offensive stats, Whimsicott is limited to its a supporting role and shouldn't be attacking under any circumstances. abilities, as Whimsicott is extremely lackluster offensively. Its Unfortunately, Whimsicott's bulk is also quite mediocre, and its lack of a reliable recovery in a move such as Recover is a major disappointment. Finally, after Whimsicott performs its job, it will usually become dead weight, as it poses no threat offensively and has no way outside of Leftovers and Leech Seed—which is blocked by opposing Grass-types—to recover its health. Finally, Not only is Whimsicott has a good Grass typing, but it is outclassed by other Grass-types, such as Tangrowth and Sceptile, it also becomes a deadweight on your team after a a few turns. Nevertheless, if you're looking for need a reliable Grass-type pivot that can scout and prevent the opponent from setting up, spread paralysis, and scout the opponent, Whimsicott will not disappoint. will have no trouble filling that role.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Stun Spore
    move 2: U-turn / Memento
    move 3: Encore
    move 4: Taunt / Giga Drain / Leech Seed
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Whimsicott's best set, but and it can be manipulated to fit onto a wide variety of teams. based on your team's needs Prioritized paralysis in Stun Spore is extremely annoying for the opponent, especially because Stun Spore when it can paralyze Ground-type Pokemon who that are normally immune to Thunder Wave—this can greatly aid a slower sweeper, such as Nidoqueen, and allow it give it the opportunity to sweep. U-turn lets gives Whimsicott the ability to scout the opponent and safely bring in a teammate, whileafter it has successfully paralyzed the foe. If you would like to bring in a teammate that is a setup sweeper, then Memento may be more appealing, as it will most likely can be used to force the opponent to switch out, giving your sweeper a free turn to set up. Encore is another move that is another reliable way force switches and aid setup sweepers, and it also gives you an easier time predicting switch-ins., as forcing your opponent to continually use a move such as Protect will provide a massive setup opportunity for a teammate. The moves in the first three moveslots are mainly for team support, and should always be used in tandem with slow offensive Pokemon or setup sweepers.</p>

    <p>The last slot is more dependent on your can be tailored to suit your own team.(full stop) Thanks to Prankster, Whimsicott can Taunt can prevent almost any Pokemon without Magic Coat or Magic Bounce from that attempts to set up—(em)this is especially useful if you have a Pokemon such as Moltres that is weak to entry hazards, as Whimsicott can almost always need to prevent Stealth Rock for Moltres from being set up using Taunt. Giga Drain is Whimsicott's best weapon against the likes of Rhydon, Omastar, and Kabutops, but its mediocre offensive state mean it'll be hard-pressed to hit anything outside of them. Feraligatr, and other Water-types; a Grass-type Pokemon is usually used in order to beat these Pokemon, and Whimsicott cannot touch them if it is not running Giga Drain. Finally, Leech Seed can be used to increase Whimsicott's longevity and force switches, which is very useful on a team with multiple layers of entry hazards. However, do not use Leech Seed should never be used in tandem with Substitute, as it makes Whimsicott helpless against will be easily walled by opposing Grass-types and thus,(comma) have more trouble supporting your team.</p>

    [can we merge these two paragraphs when they've been fixed please?]

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>252 HP and 252 Defense EVs are used in order to take as many physical hits as possible from physical attackers such as Kabutops and Feraligatr; most special attackers would beat Whimsicott regardless of investment, such as Moltres, Nidoqueen, and Sceptile, and its Grass typing is better used in RU more effective for walling physical threats in RU. A Bold nature is used in order to raise Whimsicott's Defense; it lowers Attack, but because Whimsicott's Attack stat is already very low, U-turn should not be used for dealing damage.</p>

    <p>Due Thanks to Whimsicott's its plethora of support moves, its Whimsicott's moveset is extremely flexible—mix and match to your heart's contentso use whatever suits Whimsicott's team. Sunny Day and SolarBeam can be used on to support and be part of a sun team, but again, Whimsicott won't be dealing more than a handful of damage. and Whimsicott can even use SolarBeam to deal some damage to the opponent. Tailwind is quiteuseful to, as it will raise the Speed of Whimsicott and its teammates for four turns; this is very useful for slower Pokemon, such as Nidoqueen and Feraligatr, benefit the most from this. If Whimsicott's team doesn't need paralysis support, Stun Spore can be replaced with another status move: Toxic. Toxic is handy as it will wears down opposing walls and cripples faster Pokemon that tend to use Substitute, such as Sceptile. Finally, Light Screen can be used to support Whimsicott's team or even to allow Whimsicott to and give it more opportunities to spread paralysis with more ease.</p>

    <p>As for teammates, Nidoqueen benefits the most from Whimsicott. is probably one of the best as it greatly appreciates paralysis support. as its low base 76 Speed hinders its ability to sweep; it Nidoqueen also enjoys the safe switch-in opportunities that Whimsicott's U-turn brings. Set up sweepers, such as Omastar, Lilligant, and Mesprit,(keep this comma) Feraligatr, Crawdaunt, Gallade, and Linoone love Whimsicott's Memento or Encore support, as it forces the opponent to switch and helps them set up more easily. Linoone especially likes to have also appreciates this support, as it will be able to set up Belly Drum without worrying about being KOed in the process. Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock or Spikes, such as Moltres and Magmortar, really enjoy having Whimsicott on their team as a teammate, as Whimsicott can prevent hazards from being set up from even the fastest Pokemon, such as Aerodactyl, with Taunt. Whimsicott benefits from Pokemon that can eliminate Bouffalant and Sawsbuck;(Semi) such as Cofagrigus, Steelix, and Fighting-types are all good options, as they can burn, wall, and severely damage the opponent, respectively. both have the Sap Sipper ability and will gain an Attack boost if they are hit by Stun Spore, Giga Drain, or Leech Seed. Entry hazards take their toll on Whimsicott hates hazards, so Rapid Spin support is appreciated, especially from the likes of Kabutops is appreciated, as Whimsicott can help it set up a Swords Dance with Encore.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>If you thought that Whimsicott's movepool ended there, then you've guessed wrong. Whimsicott has a plethora of other options, but they're relatively poor compared to are usually not as good as the options already mentioned. It can use Switcheroo can be used along with a Choice item or status Orb to cripple an opponent, but it's generally poor and unreliable with a Choice item or status Orb. Cotton Guard is an option that sharply raises Whimsicott's Defense, but Whimsicott doesn't have a lot to do outside of Leech Seed, and will become rather useless will usually just sit there. Cotton Spore can be used to lower the opponent's Speed, but Stun Spore is usually better at slowing down the opposition. Fake Tears is a move that lowers the target's Special Defense stat, and can be used to deal more damage with Giga Drain or SolarBeam. An offensive set with Growth, Giga Drain, Hidden Power Rock or Fire, and Shadow Ball will surprise the opponent, but sadly, one Growth won't cure Whimsicott's terrible base 77 Special Attack stat. A Sunny Day set with SolarBeam is also an option, but again, Whimsicott can't put SolarBeam to much use because of its poor Special Attack. Tickle is another move that affects the opponent's stats, lowering the target's Attack and Defense by one stage. Whimsicott can use has access to Trick Room, but Whimsicott itself cannot make use of it due to its high base 116 Speed. Hurricane can be used to hit opposing Grass-types,(comma) such as Sceptile, Tangrowth, and Lilligant, but sadly, Whimsicott does not learn Rain Dance so it will be stuck with a 70% accurate move. Grasswhistle, although it has horrible accuracy, can infuriate the opponent if it hits. As for the final move, Whimsicott can use Substitute to scout the opponent or avoid status;(Semi) however, it is not advised to use the SubSeed combination, as it Whimsicott is walled by a plethora of Pokemon, mainly Grass-types, and is generally a waste of a moveslot.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Pokemon with the ability Sap Sipper, such as Bouffalant, Miltank, and Sawsbuck, are immune to and get an Attack boost from Stun Spore, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain and will get an Attack boost if hit by one of those Grass-type moves. Cryogonal is another great check, as it can spin away Leech Seed and hit hard with Ice Beam. Roselia completely walls Whimsicott, as it can cure itself of status upon switching out with Natural Cure and can kill Whimsicott with Sludge Bomb; Amoonguss is similar to Roselia, but dislikes being Encored. Escavalier doesn't mind being paralyzed, as it already has terrible Speed, and it can OHKO Whimsicott with a STAB Megahorn. Anything that can OHKO Whimsicott will force it to switch out or KO it faint if it uses a support move. This includes Accelgor, Archeops, Drapion, Entei, Galvantula, Jynx, Magmortar, Moltres, Nidoqueen, Scolipede, Scyther, Sigilyph, and Typhlosion. Rotom-C and Entei can check Whimsicott well, but they dislike paralysis. Thus, Pokemon with Heal Bell,(comma) such as Clefable and Miltank,(comma) are good at combating Whimsicott as they can rid their team of Whimsicott's paralysis. Pokemon with Natural Cure,(comma) such as Altaria and the aforementioned Roselia,(comma) also don't mind paralysis, as they will be cured upon switching out. Natu and Pokemon with Magic Coat such as and Smeargle can reflect Whimsicott's support moves with Magic Coat, rendering Whimsicott useless. Lastly, Whimsicott gets worn down easily, especially by entry hazards, as it will be constantly switching in and out. Constant pressure from any of the above Pokemon will lead to Whimsicott's downfall.</p>


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    <p>Despite its poor reputation and downfall from OU, Whimsicott can function reasonably well in the RU tier. With Prankster and a seemingly endless list of good support moves, Whimsicott can provide support for a variety of teams; this includes, and is not limited to: spreading status through Stun Spore and Toxic, using Taunt to prevent the opponent from setting up, and providing Sunny Day support for a specialized team. However, due to its lackluster offensive stats, Whimsicott is limited to a supporting role and shouldn't be attacking under any circumstances. Unfortunately, Whimsicott's bulk is also mediocre, and its lack of a reliable recovery move is a major disappointment. Not only is Whimsicott outclassed by other Grass-types, such as Tangrowth and Sceptile, it also becomes a deadweight on your team after a a few turns. Nevertheless, if you're looking for a reliable Grass-type that can scout and prevent the opponent from setting up, Whimsicott will not disappoint.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Support
    move 1: Stun Spore
    move 2: U-turn / Memento
    move 3: Encore
    move 4: Taunt / Giga Drain / Leech Seed
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Prankster
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Whimsicott's best set, and can be manipulated to fit onto a wide variety of teams. Prioritized Stun Spore is extremely annoying for the opponent, especially when it can paralyze Ground-type Pokemon that are normally immune to Thunder Wave—this can greatly aid a slower sweeper, such as Nidoqueen, and give it the opportunity to sweep. U-turn gives Whimsicott the ability to scout the opponent and safely bring in a teammate, while Memento can be used to force the opponent out. Encore is another reliable way to force switches and aid setup sweepers, and it also gives you an easier time predicting switch-ins. The last slot can be tailored to suit your own team. Thanks to Prankster, Whimsicott can Taunt almost any Pokemon that attempts to set up—this is especially useful if you need to prevent Stealth Rock for the likes of Moltres. Giga Drain is Whimsicott's best weapon against the likes of Rhydon, Omastar, and Kabutops, but its mediocre offensive stats mean it'll be hard-pressed to hit anything outside of them. Finally, Leech Seed can be used to increase Whimsicott's longevity and force switches, which is very useful on a team with multiple layers of entry hazards. Leech Seed should never be used in tandem with Substitute, as it makes Whimsicott helpless against opposing Grass-types, thus, have more trouble supporting your team.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>252 HP and 252 Defense EVs are used in order to take as many physical hits as possible; most special attackers would beat Whimsicott regardless of investment, and its Grass typing is more effective for walling physical threats in RU. A Bold nature is used to raise Whimsicott's Defense; it lowers Attack, but because Whimsicott's Attack stat is already very low, U-turn should not be used for dealing damage. Thanks to its plethora of support moves, Whimsicott's moveset is extremely flexible—mix and match to your heart's content. Sunny Day and SolarBeam can be used to support and be part of a sun team, but again, Whimsicott won't be dealing more than a handful of damage. Tailwind is useful to raise the Speed of Whimsicott and its teammates for four turns; slower Pokemon, such as Nidoqueen and Feraligatr, benefit the most from this. If Whimsicott's team doesn't need paralysis support, Stun Spore can be replaced with Toxic. Toxic is handy as it wears down opposing walls and cripples faster Pokemon that tend to use Substitute, such as Sceptile. Finally, Light Screen can be used to support Whimsicott's team and give it more opportunities to spread paralysis.</p>

    <p>As for teammates, Nidoqueen is probably one of the best as it greatly appreciates paralysis support. Nidoqueen also enjoys the safe switch-in opportunities that Whimsicott's U-turn brings. Set up sweepers, such as Omastar, Lilligant, and Mesprit, love Whimsicott's Memento or Encore support, as it forces the opponent to switch and helps them set up more easily. Linoone also appreciates this support, as it will be able to set up Belly Drum without worrying about being KOed in the process. Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock or Spikes, such as Moltres and Magmortar, really enjoy having Whimsicott as a teammate, as Whimsicott can prevent hazards from even the fastest Pokemon, such as Aerodactyl. Whimsicott benefits from Pokemon that can eliminate Bouffalant and Sawsbuck; Cofagrigus, Steelix, and Fighting-types are all good options, as they can burn, wall, and severely damage the opponent, respectively. Entry hazards take their toll on Whimsicott, so Rapid Spin support from the likes of Kabutops is appreciated as well.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>If you thought that Whimsicott's movepool ended there, then you've guessed wrong. Whimsicott has a plethora of other options, but they're relatively poor compared to the options already mentioned. Switcheroo can be used along with a Choice item or status Orb to cripple an opponent, but it's generally poor and unreliable. Cotton Guard sharply raises Whimsicott's Defense, but Whimsicott doesn't have a lot to do outside of Leech Seed, and will become rather useless. Cotton Spore can be used to lower the opponent's Speed, but Stun Spore is usually better at slowing down the opposition. Fake Tears is a move that lowers the target's Special Defense stat, and can be used to deal more damage with Giga Drain or SolarBeam. An offensive set with Growth, Giga Drain, Hidden Power Rock or Fire, and Shadow Ball will surprise the opponent, but sadly, one Growth won't cure Whimsicott's terrible base 77 Special Attack stat. A Sunny Day set with SolarBeam is also an option, but again, Whimsicott can't put SolarBeam to much use because of its poor Special Attack. Tickle is another move that affects the opponent's stats, lowering the target's Attack and Defense by one stage. Whimsicott also has access to Trick Room, but cannot make use of it due to its high Speed. Hurricane can be used to hit opposing Grass-types, such as Sceptile, Tangrowth, and Lilligant, but Whimsicott does not learn Rain Dance so it will be stuck with a 70% accurate move. Grasswhistle, although it has horrible accuracy, can infuriate the opponent if it hits. As for the final move, Whimsicott can use Substitute to scout the opponent or avoid status; however, it is not advised as Whimsicott is walled by a plethora of Grass-types, and is generally a waste of a moveslot.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Pokemon with Sap Sipper, such as Bouffalant, Miltank, and Sawsbuck, are immune to, and get an Attack boost from Stun Spore, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain. Cryogonal can spin away Leech Seed and threaten Whimsicott with Ice Beam. Roselia can cure itself of status upon switching out with Natural Cure and can kill Whimsicott with Sludge Bomb. Amoonguss is similar to Roselia, but dislikes being Encored. Escavalier doesn't mind being paralyzed, as it already has terrible Speed, and it can OHKO Whimsicott with a STAB Megahorn. Anything with a reasonable amount of power will force Whimsicott to switch or KO it if it uses a support move. Accelgor, Archeops, Drapion, Entei, Galvantula, Jynx, Magmortar, Moltres, Nidoqueen, Scolipede, Scyther, Sigilyph, and Typhlosion are a few great examples. Rotom-C and Entei can check Whimsicott well, but they dislike paralysis. Pokemon with Heal Bell, such as Clefable and Miltank, are good at combating Whimsicott, as they can rid their team of Whimsicott's paralysis. Pokemon with Natural Cure, such as Altaria and the aforementioned Roselia, are also cured upon switching out. Natu and Smeargle can reflect Whimsicott's support moves with Magic Coat, rendering Whimsicott useless. Lastly, Whimsicott gets worn down by entry hazards, as it will be constantly switching in and out. Constant pressure from any of the above Pokemon will lead to Whimsicott's downfall.</p>


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    Woah, I think you changed a little too much there. Here are some examples of why I think that:

    Despite Whimsicott's its poor reputation and its downfall from OU all the way to RU, it Whimsicott can function reasonably well in the RU tier still has a niche.

    I understand the first change that includes downfall, but I don't know why you removed the part about it having a niche. I also don't understand why you removed the examples of Whimsicott's good support moves in the following sentence.

    [can we merge these two paragraphs when they've been fixed please?]

    Not sure why you think this, but I made the fourth move a separate paragraph as it had more options than the other slots and each of the moves needed an explanation.

    Also not sure why you removed other stuff such as Feraligatr, Crawdaunt, Gallade, and Linoone because I think a new player would like to have a few more than three examples of good teammates :x

    As for the final move, Whimsicott can use Substitute to scout the opponent or avoid status;(Semi) however, it is not advised to use the SubSeed combination, as it Whimsicott is walled by a plethora of Pokemon, mainly Grass-types, and is generally a waste of a moveslot.</p>

    Mentioning SubSeed there was EXTREMELY important. Because it is the most common set, I made sure to emphasize not to use it, and I thought that it fit well in the sentence following an explanation of the move Substitute. It is also walled by other Pokemon besides Grass-types (Cryogonal, Clefable, etc) so I don't know why you removed "plethora of Pokemon" either >_<

    Natu and Pokemon with Magic Coat such as and Smeargle can reflect Whimsicott's support moves with Magic Coat

    Not sure why you changed this either, but Natu doesn't need to use Magic Coat, so I separated the two Pokemon.

    However, due to its lackluster offensive stats, Whimsicott is limited to its a supporting role and shouldn't be attacking under any circumstances. abilities, as Whimsicott is extremely lackluster offensively.

    Not that this change is wrong, I'm just not sure as to why you changed it. This is what I thought when reviewing most of the changes :3 Also, I didn't include much personality on purpose: "Whimsicott will not disappoint" I specifically didn't phrase things this way because RU players know that Whimsicott is not a very good Pokemon, but unfortunately, newer players still continue to use it. The current analysis makes Whimsicott out to be a great Pokemon, and my goal was to tone it down quite a bit.

    Thanks for the check though ^_^
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    I thought this post was a bit long so I put it in tags (open)
    Some of the changes were a little bit...difficult to explain/edit. I'll go through each of these and explain what I meant though.

    I'm not saying everything in my check had to be followed, but I just thought it didn't flow well in some places and I was trying to make it sound okay. Giving too many examples, abrupt endings, and awkward wordings were my focus. It's up to you what you fix, but I'm just stating what I saw.

    Feel free to pick and choose what you like, but make sure you read it out loud to make sure it makes sense, because some of it sounded a bit dodgy to me
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    This is done. Thanks Komodo!
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