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Why Slaking with no HB?

Discussion in 'Archives' started by The Ownage, Feb 8, 2006.

  1. The Ownage

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    Well, I saw the moveset for Slaking, and it said "Hyper Beam can be useful only in a handful of circumstances. I don't see why it is better than Return, since it has Traunt. Anyway explanation please?
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    I assume you meant to say "I don't see why it isn't better," otherwise your whole post doesn't make sense. The reason is because Return will let you switch out and Hyper Beam will leave Slaking in there, useless until the next turn which will let a whole host of sweepers setup on you.
  3. The Ownage

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    Ah right, and yes, thanks for picking out my grammar mistake. I'd still stick to HB, thanks though.
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    HyperBeam still works on Slaking, but only if you feel like letting him stay in to take a hit or give your opponent a free turn. All in all, you can go either way, but Return is the prefered choice.
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    Also there are very few pokemon that survive a return without resistance anyway..

    Have a nice day.
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    tl;dr

    The only time I'd use Hyper Beam on Slaking is if the rest of my Pokemon have no trouble with Skarmory, in which case I'd drop Focus Punch. But even then, I prefer Fury Swipes, so Slaking suddenly becomes a non-protect Ninjask counter, not vice versa. Multi-hit moves are also nice to surprise Pokemon that think they're safe behind a sub against Slaking. The accuracy is a bit of a let down, though. :(


    The choice between Double-Edge and Return is a far harder one, imo.
  7. Basics

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    HB can what? OHKO Weezing and do a bit more to Suicune? It's not really necessary. Even if you do predict properly, you're just giving your opponent 1 or 2 100% free moves. Say you Hyper Beam as they switch to Milotic and you OHKO it. Your opponent than sends out Gengar, WoW's your Slaking and Focus Punches whatever you send in next turn. Pretty gay.
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    Or the opponent can simply switch in Medicham or Heracross and FP you anyway while you can't do anything, or Tyranitar can set up.
    EDIT: After the Hyper Beam
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    i'm tempted to put pursuit on it...i mean..the obvious thing to do when facing a slaking thats able to attack is to switch out to something that resists/is immune one of its 3 main attacks..
  10. Sir Spanky

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    Hyper Beam is only usable to OHKO Cune and Weezing. Otherwise it is just best to use Return.

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    Hyper beam can only KO cune if it´s under 90% and it doesn´t have a +def nature and max Def
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    you could take your opponant's weezing out for some heracross ownage.
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    You could also take out your opponents weezing, only to have TTar come in, with two turns instead of just one to set up and sweep your team.

    Also Raikou or Jirachi or anything else with any sort of set up.

    Have a nice day.
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    Double Edge is also an option if you don't mind the massive recoil.
  15. Somebody

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    I'd say Slaking can handle the recoil pretty well with base 150 HP.
  16. Dare

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    I personally like HB on Slaking. It's as good as Return with more of a dent, I think. I mean, I know that OHKOing Weezing isn't a huge deal, but it's useful.
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    Not when Metagross or Gengar absorbs it and gives you a nice HARD meteor mash / focus punch or similar, at least you can switch when you use return.

    I use DE with wish support though.

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