Played against djstringbeans yesterday, he used an illegally hacked Dragonite. It easily took Hidden Power Ice from my max Special Attack, Modest Jolteon. I was skeptical due to it's bulk and attacking power. I asked him his EV spread, and he said that it was 252 HP and 252 Atk. Only thing is, that would make it's speed 196. It outsped my Breloom's 237 speed without having used and boosting moves (also, it was holding Leftovers, not Scarf). That means it needs 164 speed evs to tie, 168 for outspeed. I brought that up, and he started saying he got it from someone else so he doesn't know it's EV spread, after he told me.