Completed Will Frosty drift away for eternity? Frosty vs. Eternal Drifter

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  1. Espeon65

    Espeon65

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    Rules:
    3v3 LC triples
    Training items
    Unown Soup
    2 substitutions
    All abilities
    Switch = KO
    2 day DQ

    Frosty sends out + equips
    ED sends out + equips
    ED orders
    Frosty orders
    I ref
  2. Frosty

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    Sending out Diababa the Necturine with an Amulet coin, Odolwa the Lotad with an Exp.Share and Veran the Cottonee with nothing.
  3. Espeon65

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    Sorry! I was tired! And on my kindle! I'll fix that right away!

    EDIT: It should be correct now, XD.
  4. Eternal Drifter

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    "Well then, let us train," Walker says. "I fully expect to lose, but still, even a loss could be of benefit."

    "Strike hard! Strike fast!"

    (Note: counters are gained upon send out; Scraggy gets one DC, putting him at the max of five, and unlocking his dream world ability, Intimidate)

    Scraggy:
    Pre-Round: Unlock Intimidate; Activate Intimidate
    Action 1: Fire Punch (Cottonee)
    Action 2: Ice Punch (Cottonee)

    Hope:
    Action 1: Entrainment (Cottonee)
    Action 2: Signal Beam (Cottonee)

    IF Cottonee uses Taunt (Hope) Action 1 AND uses Encore (Hope) Action 2, replace action 1 with Signal Beam (Cottonee).

    IF Cottonee uses Taunt (Hope) Action 1, Protect that action and push actions back. Do NOT use this subsitution more than once.

    Mirage:
    Action 1: Taunt (Cottonee)
    Action 2: Thief (Necturine)

    IF Cottonee uses Taunt (Mirage), use Protect that action and push actions back. Do NOT use this subsitution more than once.
    IF Taunted when you are to use Taunt, replace round actions with the following: Faint Attack (Cottonee), Thief (Necturine).
  5. Frosty

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    hmmm...we are at unown soup, right?

    well...

    Veran (Cottonee): Unown P (Protect) - Helping Hand (Diababa)
    Odolwa (Lotad): Unown W (Water Spout) - Giga Drain (Chingling)
    Diababa (Necturine): Unown S (Shadow Force) at Chingling - COMBO (Shadow Ball + Shadow Ball) at Chingling

    According to my calcs it should KO chingling. should.
  6. Espeon65

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    Let me check the rules for Unown Soup, I think just one Unown per action per owner...

    Sorry Frosty, those actions are illegal :(. Please change them, thank you!
  7. Frosty

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    Erm...AFAIK its one unown per pokemon. At least on the battles I've seen that was the rule applied.



    BUT, either way:

    Veran (Cottonee): Unown P (Protect) - Helping Hand (Diababa)
    Odolwa (Lotad): Ice Beam (Chingling) - Giga Drain (Chingling)
    Diababa (Necturine): Ominous Wind (Chingling) - COMBO (Shadow Ball + Shadow Ball) at Chingling
  8. Espeon65

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    Okay, well then I will go with your final actions, but if you would like me to, I will change them to your original actions.

    EDIT: I will have the reffing up within the next few hours.
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    Frosty's Team:
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    Diababa l Odalwa l Veran
    Items: Amulet Coin l Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 90 l 90 l 90
    Energy: 100 l 100 l 100
    Speed: 44 l 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l N/A l N/A

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Scraggy l Hope l Mirage
    Items: Exp. Share l Amulet Coin l N/A
    HP: 90 l 90 l 90
    Energy: 100 l 100 l 100
    Speed: 48 l 45 l 75
    Status: N/A l N/A l N/A​

    No time for flavor, so here's the most adorable puppy I could find...
    [​IMG]

    Calculations (open)

    Action 1:
    Veran: Protect: Veran protected itself from damage! [23.5 energy]
    Mirage: Taunt: Veran protected itself! [10 energy]
    Scraggy: Fire Punch: Veran Protects itself! Damage blocked: 5528/10000 crit? nope [(8+6-3) x 1.5] 16.5 damage. [6 energy]
    Hope: Entrainment: Veran protected itself! [8 energy]
    Diababa: Ominous Wind: Damage to Hope: 8001/10000 crit? nope [(6+3+4.5-3) x 1.5] 16 damage. 3052/10000 stats upped? nope [5 energy]
    Odalwa: Ice Beam: Damage to Hope: 1298/10000 crit? nope 166/10000 freeze? yup [(10+4.5-3) x 1] 11.5 damage. 3298/10000 Hope is frozen for 1 turn. [7 energy]

    Action 2:
    Veran: Helping Hand: Diababa's SB combo's BAP is now doubled! [12 energy]
    Mirage: Thief: Damage to Diababa: 6844/10000 crit? nope [(4+3+4.5-3) x 1.5] 13 damage. Diababa's Amulet Coin was stolen! [4 energy]
    Scraggy: Ice Punch: Damage to Veran: 5549/10000 crit? nope 7351/10000 freeze? nope [(8+6-3) x 1.5] 16.5 damage. [6 energy]
    Hope: Hope is frozen solid!
    Diababa: SB Combo: Damage to Hope: 3782/10000 crit? nope 7475/10000 Sp. Def drop? nope [(36+3+4.5-3) x 1.5] 61 damage. (woah!!!!) [28 energy]
    Odalwa: Giga Drain: Damage to Hope: 4734/10000 crit? nope [(8+3+4.5-3) x 1] 12.5 damage. Odalwa gets 6 health back. [12 energy]


    Frosty's Team:
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    Diababa l Odalwa l Veran
    Items: N/A l Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 79 l 90 l 74
    Energy: 67 l 81 l 65
    Speed: 44 l 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l N/A l N/A

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Scraggy l Hope l Mirage
    Items: Exp. Share l Amulet Coin l Amulet Coin
    HP: 90 l -11 l 90
    Energy: 88 l KO l 86
    Speed: 48 l 45 l 75
    Status: N/A l KO l N/A​

    Please be patient if I made any mistakes, as I'm a beginner ref and triples are hard.

    Frosty orders
    ED orders
    I ref

    EDIT: To below, I changed those. Thanks for pointing them out!

    EDIT2: I'm going to make a lit of Unowns left:

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  10. Frosty

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    k, two things:

    1) Protect protects against all moves (incluing Taunt and entrainment)

    2) in the ASB weaknesses and strenghts have different multipliers:
    x4 weakness: Damage Multiplied by 2.25
    x2 weakness: Damage Multiplied by 1.50
    x2 resistance: Damage Multiplied by 0.67
    x4 resistance: Damage Multiplied by 0.44

    EDIT:

    Okie Dokie, here are actions:

    Veran (Cottonee): Unown D (Dark Void) - Taunt (Zorua)
    IF both pokemon use evasive/protective moves A1 THEN use Cotton Guard - Unown D (Dark Void)
    IF Zorua uses Evasive/protective moves A2 AND it didn't use said moves on the previous turn THEN Use Solarbeam at Scraggy
    Odolwa (Lotad): Ice Beam (Zorua) - Giga Drain (Zorua)
    IF Zorua uses Evasive/Protective moves THEN redirect respective action towards Scraggy
    Diababa (Necturine): cooldown - Leaf Blade (Zorua)
    IF Zorua uses Evasive/Protective moves THEN redirect respective action towards Scraggy

    Don't worry about your reffing. You are doing good. If you happen to make a mistake, we'll point it out, no prob.
  11. Eternal Drifter

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    "...That's what I get from not reviewing stadium when sending out... Luckily, more than one way to fry a fish!"

    Scraggy:
    Action 1: Unown F (Fake Out) (Cottonee)
    Action 2: Black Payback (Payback+Payback Combo) (Necturine)

    Mirage:
    Action 1: Taunt (Cottonee)
    Action 2: Sucker Punch (Necturine)
  12. Espeon65

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    Sorry I didn't get this reffed yesterday! I'm busy on Wednesdays and Thursdays, but expect this reffed by tonight!
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    Frosty's Team:
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    Diababa l Odolwa l Veran
    Items: N/A l Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 79 l 90 l 67
    Energy: 67 l 81 l 65
    Speed: 44 l 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l N/A l N/A

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Scraggy l Mirage
    Items: Exp. Share l Amulet Coin
    HP: 90 l 90
    Energy: 88 l 86
    Speed: 48 l 75
    Status: N/A l N/A​

    Sorry, again no time for flavor...

    Calcs (open)

    Action 1:
    Scraggy: Fake Out: Damage to Veran: 7399/10000 crit? nope [(4+6-3) x 1] 7 damage. [4 energy]
    Veran: Veran flinched!
    Mirage: Taunt: Veran is taunted for 6 actions! [10 energy]
    Diababa: Cooldown: Diababa is vulnerable to attack!
    Odolwa: Ice Beam: Damage to Mirage: 2729/10000 crit? nope 9965/10000 freeze? nope [(10+4.5-3) x 1] 11.5 damage. [7 energy]

    Action 2:
    Mirage: Sucker Punch: Damage to Diababa: 9066/10000 crit? nope [(8+3+4.5-3) x 1.5] 19 damage. [5 energy]
    Veran: Taunt: Failed because Veran herself is taunted! (ironic, huh) [10 energy]
    Diababa: Leaf Blade: Damage to Mirage: 87/10000 crit? yup [(9+3+3+3-1.5) x 1] 16.5 damage. [7 energy]
    Odolwa: Giga Drain: Damage to Mirage: 8612/10000 crit? nope [(8+3+4.5-3) x 1] 12.5 damage. Odalwa gets 6 HP back. [12 energy]
    Scraggy: Black Payback: Damage to Diababa: 5621/10000 crit? nope [(22.5+3+6-3) x 1.5] 43 damage. [31.5 energy]


    Frosty's Team:
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    Diababa l Odolwa l Veran
    Items: N/A l Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 17 l 90 l 74
    Energy: 60 l 62 l 55
    Speed: 44 l 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l N/A l Taunted for 5 more actions

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
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    Scraggy l Mirage
    Items: Exp. Share l Amulet Coin
    HP: 90 l 49
    Energy: 53 l 81
    Speed: 48 l 75
    Status: Cooldown beginning of next round l N/A​

    ED orders
    Frosty orders
    I ref

    EDIT: To below, thanks for fixing those (many) mistakes! If it were me, I don't know if I would've been honest enough to give my pokemon more damage...And my calcs left Diababa at -9, but yours left her at 17...If you could PM me yours and why, maybe you're right and I'm wrong and I could change it.

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  14. Frosty

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    I know it isn't my turn, but a few notes:

    1) Its Odolwa (first boss from Majora's Mask) not Odalwa. Not important, but I thought I might as well mention this.
    2) I suggest you put Scraggy's cooldown and Veran's Taunt on the "status" at the summary.
    3) Zorua's suffered 41hp of damage (11.5+16.5+12.5=40.5, rounded to 41) so the total hp should be 49, not 60.
    4) Combos of 0 priority moves (like Payback) have -2 priority, which means that it should be the last action, so (and I feel I shouldn't mention this) it should get full power leaving Diababa with around 17hp, me thinks.
    5) Also, you added the energy for Diababa and Odolwa instead of reducing it, I think.


    I think that is all.
  15. Eternal Drifter

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    "Do not seek to win... seek to cause as much damage as possible..."

    Scraggy:
    Action 1: Cooldown (Fire Punch (Diababa))
    Action 2: Ice Punch (Diababa)

    IF Diababa uses Protect when Scraggy is due to target her, change target to Veran.
    IF Diababa is KOed when Scraggy is due to target her, change target to Veran.

    Mirage:
    Action 1: Unown D (Dark Void)
    Action 2: Faint Attack (Diababa)

    IF two or more of Frosty's mons uses Protective/Evasive move action 1, change action to Sucker Punch (Veran).
    IF Diababa (successfully) uses Protective/Evasive move action 2 AND did NOT use Protective/Evasive move action 1, change target to Veran.
  16. Frosty

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    Well, I do intend to win, so...

    Veran/Cottonee: Unown D (Drain Punch) at Zorua - Solarbeam at Scraggy
    Odolwa/Lotad: COMBO (Ice Beam + Ice Beam) at Zorua - cooldown
    Diababa/Necturine: Leaf Blade at Zorua - COMBO (Shadow Sneak + Leaf Blade) at Scraggy
    IF that combo doesn't work, replace it with Shadow Sneak.

    Please remember that an unown can be used only once. Since Veran is faster than Mirage, it would use the unown.

    Also, a combination of priority 1 + priority 0 = priority 1. There is a list of the combinations on the Data Audit Thread for future reference.
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    Frosty's Team:
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    Diababa l Odolwa l Veran
    Items: N/A l Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 17 l 90 l 74
    Energy: 60 l 62 l 55
    Speed: 44 l 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l N/A l Taunted for 5 more actions

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
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    Scraggy l Mirage
    Items: Exp. Share l Amulet Coin
    HP: 90 l 49
    Energy: 53 l 81
    Speed: 48 l 75
    Status: Cooldown beginning of next round l N/A​

    Veran the Cottonee starts the match off with a strange Draining Punch, hurting Mirage the Zorua and gaining herself some HP. Mirage seems to be baffled by the fact the Veran used Unown D before he did, and can't seem to do anything. Scraggy cools down, and Diababa the Necturine hits Mirage with a Leaf Blade, immediately followed by a powerful Ice Beam combo, Freeze Beam from Odolwa the Lotad, making Mirage faint.

    Veran begins to charge up for some unknown attack, while Diababa sneaks up to Scraggy and slashes him with a leaf (Shadow Sneak + Leaf Blade)! Scraggy uses an Ice Punch at Veran, hitting SE damage. Odolwa cools down, while Veran uses her charged up power to hit Scraggy with some Solar sort of Beam.

    Calcs (open)

    Action 1:
    Veran: Drain Punch: Damage to Mirage: 4871/10000 crit? nope [(8+1.5-1.5) x 1.5) 12 damage. Veran gets 6 HP back. [12 energy]
    Mirage: Unown D was already used...can't do anything!
    Scraggy: Cooldown: Vulnerable to attacks!
    Diababa: Leaf Blade: Damage to Mirage: 1051/10000 crit? (increased rate) yup [(9+3+3+3-1.5) x 1] 16.5 damage. [7 energy]
    Odolwa: Freeze Beam: Damage to Mirage: 1854/10000 crit? nope 2399/10000 freeze? nope [(22.5+4.5-3) x 1] 24 damage. Mirage faints. [31.5 energy]

    Action 2:
    Veran: Veran charges up solar power!
    Diababa: Leaf Sneak: Damage to Scraggy: 2711/10000 crit? nope [(13+3+4.5-4.5) x 1] 16 damage. [16.5 energy]
    Scraggy: Ice Punch: Damage to Diababa: 3797/10000 crit? nope 8924/10000 freeze? nope [(8+6-3 x 1.5] 16.5 damage. [6 energy]
    Odolwa: Cooldown. Vulnerable to attacks.
    Veran: SolarBeam: Damage to Scraggy: 639/10000 crit? nope, so close! [(12+3+3-4.5) x 1] 13.5 damage. [8 energy]


    Frosty's Team:
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    Diababa l Odolwa l Veran
    Items: N/A l Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 0 l 90 l 74
    Energy: KO l 31 l 35
    Speed: 44 l 26 l 76
    Status: KO l N/A l Taunted for 3 more actions

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
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    Scraggy l Mirage
    Items: Exp. Share l Amulet Coin
    HP: 61 l -3
    Energy: 47 l KO
    Speed: 48 l 75
    Status: N/A l KO

    Can Eternal Drifter snatch victory from the jaws of defeat? Only time will tell, but anything can happen in the arena of Unown Soup!

    Frosty orders
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  18. Frosty

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    I hate to do this, but if the damage ends in .5 it rounds up. In other words, since Diababa lost 16.5hp (rounded to 17), it fainted.

    My orders are below. I've included Diababa's too if I happen to have missed something. Just disregard them if it happens to be alive.

    Veran/Cottonee: Unown A (Aeroblast) - Solarbeam
    If Unown A is already used by the time you act THEN replace A1 with Unown B (Brave Bird) and don't push back.
    Odolwa/Lotad: Leech Seed - Giga Drain
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    "Thats one... can we make it two? Now... unleash the fury of the lord of the dimentions!"

    Scraggy:
    Action 1: Unown S (Shadow Force (Veran))
    Action 2: Ice Punch (Veran)
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    Frosty's Team:
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    Odolwa l Veran
    Items: Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 90 l 74
    Energy: 31 l 35
    Speed: 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l Taunted for 3 more actions

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
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    Scraggy
    Items: Exp. Share
    HP: 61
    Energy: 47
    Speed: 48
    Status: + 1 Attack boost ​

    No time for flavor, sorry. Will you forgive Puss-in-Boots?
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    Calcs (open)

    Action 1:
    Scraggy: Scraggy disappeared!
    Veran: Aeroblast: Damage to Scraggy: Scraggy was hidden somewhere... [7 energy]
    Odolwa: Leech Seed: Scraggy was hidden somewhere... [10 energy]
    Scraggy: Shadow Force: Damage to Veran: 6852/10000 crit? nope [(12+7.5-3) x 1] 16.5 damage. [10 energy]

    Action 2:
    Veran: Veran begins charging up!
    Scraggy: Ice Punch: Damage to Veran: 6499/10000 crit? nope 9618/10000 freeze? nope [(8+7.5-3) x 1.5] 19 damage. [6 energy]
    Odolwa: Giga Drain: Damage to Scraggy: 5286/10000 crit? nope [(8+4.5-4.5) x 1] 8 damage. Odolwa is already full HP. [12 energy]
    Veran: SolarBeam: Damage to Scraggy: 2214/10000 crit? nope [(12+3+3-4.5) x 1] 13.5 damage. [8 energy]


    Frosty's Team:
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    Odolwa l Veran
    Items: Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 90 l 38
    Energy: 9 l 20
    Speed: 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l Taunted for 1 more action

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
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    Scraggy
    Items: Exp. Share
    HP: 39
    Energy: 31
    Speed: 48
    Status: +1 atk ​

    It looks like Eternal Drifter can still turn this around, but it will be a tough battle! Who will win? Tune in next week on Fear Factor NO! CAP ASB!

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  21. Eternal Drifter

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    "Another round... and... do I see... a way to win...? Is this battle ending this round?"

    (Question: Does Moxie activate on rounding KOs (EX: Diababa)? How about energy KOs?)

    Scraggy:
    Action 1: Drain Punch (Veran)
    Action 2: Unown V (V-Create) (Veran)

    IF Unown V is already used by the time you are to use it, replace Unown V with Unown G (Gunk Shot) (Veran).
    IF Veran uses Unown T (Teleport) to evade attacks action 2, change action to Faint Attack (Odolwa).
  22. Frosty

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    Energy KOs goes for the last attack and Rounding KOs are ordinary KOs

    I think we will have to use a more....unconventional strategy. I am sorry, Veran, but you'll have to take one for the team.

    Odolwa/Lotad: Chill - Chill
    Veran/Cottonee: Unown B (Brave Bird) - Taunt
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    Frosty's Team:
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    Odolwa l Veran
    Items: Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 90 l 38
    Energy: 9 l 20
    Speed: 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l Taunted for 1 more action, +1 atk

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
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    Scraggy
    Items: Exp. Share
    HP: 39
    Energy: 31
    Speed: 48
    Status: N/A ​

    No flavor at this speed. Sorry.

    Calcs (open)

    Action1:
    Veran: Brave Bird: Damage to Scraggy: 7151/10000 crit? nope [(11+1.5-4.5) x 1.5] 12 damage. Veran gets 4 damage in recoil. [7.5 energy]
    Scraggy: Drain Punch: Damage to Veran: 668/10000 crit? nope [(8+7.5-3) x 1] 12.5 damage. Scraggy gets 6 HP back. [12 energy]
    Odolwa: Chill: Odolwa gets 12 more energy.

    Action 2:
    Veran: Taunt: Scraggy is taunted for 6 actions!
    Scraggy: V-Create: Damage to Veran: 243/10000 hit? yup 7333/10000 crit? nope [(18+7.5-3) x 1.5] 34 damage. Veran faints. Scraggy's Def, Sp. Def, and Spe are lowered by one stage. [12 energy]
    Odolwa: Chill: Odolwa gets 12 more energy.


    Frosty's Team:
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    Odolwa l Veran
    Items: Exp. Share l N/A
    HP: 90 l -9
    Energy: 33 l KO
    Speed: 26 l 76
    Status: N/A l KO

    Eternal Drifter's Team:
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    Scraggy
    Items: Exp. Share
    HP: 33
    Energy: 7
    Speed: 27
    Status: Taunted for 6 actions, Def, Sp. Def, and Spe all one stage lower, +2 atk.​

    Eternal Drifter is coming back, baby! This is what CAP ASB is all about! Can he pull off the upset?

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  24. Frosty

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    Speed is something like:
    a) If Stat Change is positive: (Speed)*(Stat Change)*(1.75)
    b) If Stat Change is Negative: Speed/((Stat Change)*(1.75))

    In this case the result is: 48/(1*1.75)= 27.42 speed. Faster than Lotad.


    Second thing (again, I shouldn't mention this): Scraggy should get Moxie Boost from Diababa (I love this name) and Veran. +2atk.

    That being said, here are my actions. Feel free to deal 90 damage with 7 energy. Consider this a puzzle of sorts.

    Unown B (Bulldoze) - Surf
  25. Eternal Drifter

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    "Moxie! But is... this... the end...?"

    (Scored a KO on Veran, so +1 Attack!)

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    "Grab the U..."

    Scraggy:
    Action 1: Unown U (U-Turn) (Odolwa)
    Action 2: Chill (Self)

    U-Turn breaks Taunt, and resets Scraggy's stats. Though I'll have to kiss the Attack boost goodbye, I'll be glad to undo the damage V-Create did.
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