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Wonkymons -- Updates

Discussion in 'Other Metagames' started by The Eevee General, Oct 8, 2012.

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    Every Pokemon was given 2 new abilities instead of its old ones?

    The abilities were generated randomly and without prejudice?

    The entire tier system changed as we know it?

    Well that would be quite wonky, wouldn't it?

    Welcome to: Wonkymons!

    I came up with this idea after diving into the Balanced Hackmons meta, which of course is an offshoot of original Hackmons. In those tiers, you can assign any ability (with some exceptions in BH) and any move to any Pokemon. That completely changes the game altogether! While fun, sometimes the unpredictability can be frustrating. Needless to say it is a challenge to master when you have to expect just about everything.

    I wanted to try an approach that would shake up the Ubers, OU, UU, RU, NU and LC tiers without going too far down the rabbit hole. I used the random number generator function in Excel to assign every Pokemon a number with each number assigned to an ability. Well why are some abilities absent? I'm glad you asked. I did away with useless abilities in 1-on-1 competitive battling like Illuminate, condensed duplicates (Mold Breaker is used while Teravolt and Turboblaze are axed), and tossed Slow Start, Truant, and Defeatist.

    The following abilities were cut:
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    Air Lock (Cloud Nine used instead)
    Defeatist
    Filter (Solid Rock used instead)
    Flower Gift (Only works on Cherrim)
    Friend Guard
    Forecast (Only works on Castform)
    Healer
    Honey Gather
    Huge Power (Pure Power used instead)
    Illuminate
    Minus
    Multitype (Only works on Arceus and the idea of the game is to give a new ability)
    Pickup
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    Rough Skin (Iron Barbs used instead)
    Run Away
    Shell Armor (Battle Armor used instead)
    Slow Start
    Telepathy
    Teravolt (Mold Breaker used instead)
    Truant
    Turboblaze (Mold Breaker used instead)
    Vital Spirit (Insomnia used instead)
    White Smoke (Clear Body instead)
    Zen Mode (Only works on Darmanitan, see Multitype)


    If an ability was assigned to a Pokemon that already had it (Rotom-Fan was given Levitate) or an ability assigned that the Pokemon could not use (Bronzor was given Iron Fist) new abilities were randomly generated.

    Behold!
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    Bulbasaur - Aftermath / Adaptability
    Ivysaur - Regenerator / Sturdy
    Venusaur - Heatproof / Flare Boost
    Charmander - Infiltrator / Cute Charm
    Charmeleon - Technician / Sand Force
    Charizard - Sand Stream / Regenerator
    Squirtle - Clear Body / Lightningrod
    Wartortle - No Guard / Poison Point
    Blastoise - Early Bird / Overcoat
    Caterpie - Iron Barbs / Swift Swim
    Metapod - Tinted Lens / Shadow Tag
    Butterfree - Sap Sipper / Water Absorb
    Weedle - Damp / Sheer Force
    Kakuna - Early Bird / Light Metal
    Beedrill - Effect Spore / Harvest
    Pidgey - Bad Dreams / Marvel Scale
    Pidgeotto - Soundproof / Oblivious
    Pidgeot - Cute Charm / Magma Armor
    Rattata - Mummy / Toxic Boost
    Raticate - Compoundeyes / Illusion
    Spearow - Moxie / Flame Body
    Fearow - Clear Body / Trace
    Ekans - Defiant / Shield Dust
    Arbok - Thick Fat / Quick Feet
    Pikachu - Infiltrator / Sturdy
    Raichu - Magic Bounce / Battle Armor
    Sandshrew - Magma Armor / Magic Guard
    Sandslash - Infiltrator / Sheer Force
    Nidoran♀ - Poison Touch / Bad Dreams
    Nidorina - Rock Head / Chlorophyll
    Nidoqueen - Pressure / Clear Body
    Nidoran♂ - Limber / Big Pecks
    Nidorino - Marvel Scale / Drought
    Nidoking - Shield Dust / Hyper Cutter
    Clefairy - Pickpocket / Prankster
    Clefable - Infiltrator / Suction Cups
    Vulpix - Toxic Boost / Soundproof
    Ninetales - Sand Veil / Hyper Cutter
    Jigglypuff - Gluttony / Color Change
    Wigglytuff - Tinted Lens / Multiscale
    Zubat - Prankster / Snow Cloak
    Golbat - Simple / Rock Head
    Oddish - Tinted Lens / Cute Charm
    Gloom - Drought / Volt Absorb
    Vileplume - Thick Fat / Steadfast
    Paras - Stall / Lightningrod
    Parasect - Motor Drive / Quick Feet
    Venonat - Heatproof / Quick Feet
    Venomoth - Thick Fat / Imposter
    Diglett - Marvel Scale / Stall
    Dugtrio - Poison Heal / Color Change
    Meowth - Poison Point / Serene Grace
    Persian - Poison Point / Snow Cloak
    Psyduck - Trace / Suction Cups
    Golduck - Drizzle / Immunity
    Mankey - Sand Veil / Arena Trap
    Primeape - Poison Heal / Soundproof
    Growlithe - Hustle / Shed Skin
    Arcanine - Cute Charm / Illusion
    Poliwag - Oblivious / Thick Fat
    Poliwhirl - Solid Rock / Magic Guard
    Poliwrath - Poison Heal / Magma Armor
    Abra - Sand Stream / Anticipation
    Kadabra - Leaf Guard / Hustle
    Alakazam - Multiscale / Snow Cloak
    Machop - Frisk / Unburden
    Machoke - Rain Dish / Infiltrator
    Machamp - Iron Barbs / Tangled Feet
    Bellsprout - Sand Rush / Unnerve
    Weepinbell - Rattled / Snow Warning
    Victreebel - Magic Bounce / Storm Drain
    Tentacool - Leaf Guard / Storm Drain
    Tentacruel - Ice Body / No Guard
    Geodude - Pure Power / Leaf Guard
    Graveler - Steadfast / Water Veil
    Golem - Unburden / Magic Bounce
    Ponyta - Moxie / Synchronize
    Rapidash - Intimidate / Hyper Cutter
    Slowpoke - Prankster / Pickpocket
    Slowbro - Water Veil / Unnerve
    Magnemite - Liquid Ooze / Insomnia
    Magneton - Solid Rock / Sand Force
    Farfetch'd - Marvel Scale / Snow Cloak
    Doduo - Flash Fire / Arena Trap
    Dodrio - Magma Armor / Sticky Hold
    Seel - Insomnia / Flame Body
    Dewgong - Frisk / Sand Veil
    Grimer - Drizzle / Magic Bounce
    Muk - Infiltrator / Levitate
    Shellder - Iron Barbs / Drizzle
    Cloyster - Inner Focus / Wonder Skin
    Gastly - Sand Veil / Chlorophyll
    Haunter - Technician / Aftermath
    Gengar - Swift Swim / Heavy Metal
    Onix - Sand Veil / Cute Charm
    Drowzee - Tangled Feet / Sniper
    Hypno - Solar Power / Technician
    Krabby - Iron Barbs / Tangled Feet
    Kingler - Sturdy / Color Change
    Voltorb - Big Pecks / Early Bird
    Electrode - Shadow Tag / Levitate
    Exeggcute - Cute Charm / Forewarn
    Exeggutor - Rain Dish / Mold Breaker
    Cubone - Marvel Scale / Blaze
    Marowak - Scrappy / Magic Bounce
    Hitmonlee - Clear Body / Rain Dish
    Hitmonchan - Weak Armor / Download
    Lickitung - Sticky Hold / Victory Star
    Koffing - Rivalry / Dry Skin
    Weezing - Bad Dreams / Super Luck
    Rhyhorn - Cloud Nine / Magnet Pull
    Rhydon - Pickpocket / Poison Point
    Chansey - Liquid Ooze / Static
    Tangela - Insomnia / Battle Armor
    Kangaskhan - Light Metal / Bad Dreams
    Horsea - Big Pecks / Sand Stream
    Seadra - Snow Warning / Rivalry
    Goldeen - Magic Bounce / Overcoat
    Seaking - Analytic / Natural Cure
    Staryu - Limber / Battle Armor
    Starmie - Overcoat / Stench
    Mr. Mime - Reckless / Pressure
    Scyther - Synchronize / Unburden
    Jynx - Reckless / Harvest
    Electabuzz - Adaptability / Poison Heal
    Magmar - Marvel Scale / Cloud Nine
    Pinsir - Super Luck / Flame Body
    Tauros - Keen Eye / Cloud Nine
    Magikarp - Big Pecks / Weak Armor
    Gyarados - Iron Barbs / Solid Rock
    Lapras - Tangled Feet / Drought
    Ditto - Hydration / Forewarn
    Eevee - Pure Power / Poison Heal
    Vaporeon - Stench / Leaf Guard
    Jolteon - Magnet Pull / Synchronize
    Flareon - Ice Body / Imposter
    Porygon - Thick Fat / Aftermath
    Omanyte - Blaze / Aftermath
    Omastar - Light Metal / Klutz
    Kabuto - Own Tempo / Frisk
    Kabutops - Justified / Aftermath
    Aerodactyl - Magma Armor / Early Bird
    Snorlax - Snow Warning / Overcoat
    Articuno - Chlorophyll / Stall
    Zapdos - Sniper / Regenerator
    Moltres - Cursed Body / Hyper Cutter
    Dratini - Snow Cloak / Big Pecks
    Dragonair - Serene Grace / Blaze
    Dragonite - Sand Stream / Drizzle
    Mewtwo - Drizzle / Prankster
    Mew - Liquid Ooze / Victory Star
    Chikorita - Heatproof / Levitate
    Bayleef - Rattled / Immunity
    Meganium - Poison Heal / Overcoat
    Cyndaquil - Levitate / Serene Grace
    Quilava - Natural Cure / Weak Armor
    Typhlosion - Swift Swim / Poison Heal
    Totodile - Technician / Compoundeyes
    Croconaw - Dry Skin / Regenerator
    Feraligatr - Gluttony / Stench
    Sentret - Sand Rush / Cute Charm
    Furret - Soundproof / Sturdy
    Hoothoot - Soundproof / Gluttony
    Noctowl - Sap Sipper / Anger Point
    Ledyba - Toxic Boost / Cursed Body
    Ledian - Static / Clear Body
    Spinarak - Mold Breaker / Reckless
    Ariados - Snow Warning / Super Luck
    Crobat - Solid Rock / Trace
    Chinchou - Technician / Sand Veil
    Lanturn - Trace / Clear Body
    Pichu - Soundproof / Analytic
    Cleffa - Gluttony / Sticky Hold
    Igglybuff - Gluttony / Overgrow
    Togepi - Insomnia / Anger Point
    Togetic - Damp / Mummy
    Natu - Water Absorb / Mummy
    Xatu - Shed Skin / Sand Veil
    Mareep - Steadfast / Compoundeyes
    Flaaffy - Sand Veil / Volt Absorb
    Ampharos - Rivalry / Snow Cloak
    Bellossom - Oblivious / Clear Body
    Marill - Adaptability / Chlorophyll
    Azumarill - Pickpocket / Technician
    Sudowoodo - Victory Star / Own Tempo
    Politoed - Klutz / Magic Bounce
    Hoppip - Suction Cups / Drought
    Skiploom - Steadfast / Prankster
    Jumpluff - Magic Bounce / Imposter
    Aipom - Forewarn / Light Metal
    Sunkern - Damp / Serene Grace
    Sunflora - Simple / Drizzle
    Yanma - Flash Fire / Effect Spore
    Wooper - Rain Dish / Weak Armor
    Quagsire - Anticipation / Arena Trap
    Espeon - Technician / Sand Veil
    Umbreon - Immunity / Sniper
    Murkrow - Cute Charm / Quick Feet
    Slowking - Harvest / Torrent
    Misdreavus - Shed Skin / Inner Focus
    Unown - Solid Rock / Rain Dish
    Wobbuffet - Own Tempo / Suction Cups
    Girafarig - Color Change / Big Pecks
    Pineco - Damp / Iron Barbs
    Forretress - Imposter / Gluttony
    Dunsparce - Tangled Feet / Speed Boost
    Gligar - Flare Boost / Suction Cups
    Steelix - Multiscale / Anticipation
    Snubbull - Compoundeyes / Hydration
    Granbull - Poison Heal / Static
    Qwilfish - Storm Drain / Simple
    Scizor - Iron Barbs / Magma Armor
    Shuckle - Drought / Compoundeyes
    Heracross - Heavy Metal / Contrary
    Sneasel - Sap Sipper / Compoundeyes
    Teddiursa - Analytic / Color Change
    Ursaring - Soundproof / Synchronize
    Slugma - Shield Dust / Intimidate
    Magcargo - Clear Body / Tinted Lens
    Swinub - Cursed Body / Technician
    Piloswine - Simple / Rivalry
    Corsola - Color Change / Tinted Lens
    Remoraid - Effect Spore / Water Absorb
    Octillery - Tangled Feet / Cloud Nine
    Delibird - Reckless / Keen Eye
    Mantine - Chlorophyll / Flare Boost
    Skarmory - Rivalry / Rock Head
    Houndour - Victory Star / Unburden
    Houndoom - Shed Skin / Sand Force
    Kingdra - Cloud Nine / Pickpocket
    Phanpy - Flash Fire / Levitate
    Donphan - Hyper Cutter / Damp
    Porygon2 - Battle Armor / Drought
    Stantler - Swarm / Lightningrod
    Smeargle - Gluttony / Super Luck
    Tyrogue - Flare Boost / Imposter
    Hitmontop - Klutz / Aftermath
    Smoochum - Rock Head / Water Absorb
    Elekid - Toxic Boost / Unaware
    Magby - Static / Adaptability
    Miltank - Defiant / Normalize
    Blissey - Shed Skin / Early Bird
    Raikou - Lightningrod / Iron Barbs
    Entei - Thick Fat / Dry Skin
    Suicune - Forewarn / Poison Heal
    Larvitar - Synchronize / Rock Head
    Pupitar - Mummy / Sheer Force
    Tyranitar - Anticipation / Rain Dish
    Lugia - Sap Sipper / Limber
    Ho-oh - Poison Heal / Magnet Pull
    Celebi - Soundproof / Simple
    Treecko - Overcoat / Thick Fat
    Grovyle - Rock Head / Clear Body
    Sceptile - Tinted Lens / Justified
    Torchic - Victory Star / Infiltrator
    Combusken - Limber / Super Luck
    Blaziken - Justified / Light Metal
    Mudkip - Contrary / Cursed Body
    Marshtomp - Frisk / Magma Armor
    Swampert - Sturdy / Chlorophyll
    Poochyena - Adaptability / Early Bird
    Mightyena - Unaware / Hydration
    Zigzagoon - Volt Absorb / Static
    Linoone - Reckless / Water Veil
    Wurmple - Poison Touch / Shadow Tag
    Silcoon - Contrary / Unaware
    Beautifly - Stall / Illusion
    Cascoon - Dry Skin / Prankster
    Dustox - Justified / Victory Star
    Lotad - Technician / Magma Armor
    Lombre - Magic Bounce / Effect Spore
    Ludicolo - Forewarn / Damp
    Seedot - Sturdy / Forewarn
    Nuzleaf - Flash Fire / Flame Body
    Shiftry - Moxie / Sand Veil
    Taillow - Sturdy / Serene Grace
    Swellow - Klutz / Poison Touch
    Wingull - Defiant / Synchronize
    Pelipper - Own Tempo / Heatproof
    Ralts - Sand Force / Heatproof
    Kirlia - Static / Hustle
    Gardevoir - Battle Armor / Tinted Lens
    Surskit - Thick Fat / Soundproof
    Masquerain - Frisk / Magic Bounce
    Shroomish - Heatproof / Oblivious
    Breloom - Simple / Damp
    Slakoth - Compoundeyes / Tinted Lens
    Vigoroth - Rock Head / Weak Armor
    Slaking - Skill Link / Levitate
    Nincada - Overcoat / Magic Bounce
    Ninjask - Frisk / Magic Guard
    Shedinja - Skill Link / Leaf Guard
    Whismur - Color Change / Contrary
    Loudred - Heatproof / Sand Veil
    Exploud - Clear Body / Infiltrator
    Makuhita - Poison Heal / Poison Point
    Hariyama - Harvest / Battle Armor
    Azurill - Flame Body / Early Bird
    Nosepass - Motor Drive / Big Pecks
    Skitty - Synchronize / Weak Armor
    Delcatty - Magnet Pull / Poison Heal
    Sableye - Soundproof / Magic Bounce
    Mawile - Solar Power / Guts
    Aron - Harvest / Aftermath
    Lairon - Iron Barbs / Storm Drain
    Aggron - Bad Dreams / Simple
    Meditite - Download / Damp
    Medicham - Pickpocket / Battle Armor
    Electrike - Shield Dust / Battle Armor
    Manectric - Suction Cups / Poison Touch
    Plusle - Anger Point / Cursed Body
    Minun - Unnerve / Battle Armor
    Volbeat - Rain Dish / Cursed Body
    Illumise - Victory Star / Leaf Guard
    Roselia - Adaptability / Stall
    Gulpin - Imposter / Flash Fire
    Swalot - Iron Barbs / Unnerve
    Carvanha - Magma Armor / Quick Feet
    Sharpedo - Immunity / Anticipation
    Wailmer - Trace / Tangled Feet
    Wailord - Quick Feet / Contrary
    Numel - Cloud Nine / Toxic Boost
    Camerupt - Aftermath / Big Pecks
    Torkoal - Illusion / Sand Force
    Spoink - Cute Charm / Magma Armor
    Grumpig - Justified / Cursed Body
    Spinda - Sand Veil / Guts
    Trapinch - Battle Armor / Serene Grace
    Vibrava - Damp / Light Metal
    Flygon - Color Change / Solar Power
    Cacnea - Analytic / Cute Charm
    Cacturne - Dry Skin / Adaptability
    Swablu - Suction Cups / Simple
    Altaria - Leaf Guard / Color Change
    Zangoose - Infiltrator / Shed Skin (Seviper's old abilities... lol)
    Seviper - Serene Grace / Sand Rush
    Lunatone - Illusion / Analytic
    Solrock - Pressure / Moxie
    Barboach - Intimidate / Rain Dish
    Whiscash - Damp / Battle Armor
    Corphish - Anger Point / Anticipation
    Crawdaunt - Speed Boost / Oblivious
    Baltoy - Clear Body / Early Bird
    Claydol - Rattled / Klutz
    Lileep - Skill Link / Rain Dish
    Cradily - Analytic / Serene Grace
    Anorith - Suction Cups / Reckless
    Armaldo - Magma Armor / Stall
    Feebas - Clear Body / Iron Barbs
    Milotic - Big Pecks / Snow Warning
    Castform - Normalize / Sap Sipper
    Kecleon - Inner Focus / Dry Skin
    Shuppet - Chlorophyll / Defiant
    Banette - Clear Body / Volt Absorb
    Duskull - Natural Cure / Swift Swim
    Dusclops - Oblivious / Wonder Skin
    Tropius - Cursed Body / Immunity
    Chimecho - Swift Swim / Rock Head
    Absol - Volt Absorb / Sticky Hold
    Wynaut - Mold Breaker / Mummy
    Snorunt - No Guard / Insomnia
    Glalie - Overcoat / Clear Body
    Spheal - Multiscale / Static
    Sealeo - Pressure / Drought
    Walrein - Sap Sipper / Mold Breaker
    Clamperl - Heavy Metal / Sand Rush
    Huntail - Anger Point / Marvel Scale
    Gorebyss - Cloud Nine / Rivalry
    Relicanth - Flare Boost / Anticipation
    Luvdisc - Unaware / Adaptability
    Bagon - Simple / Blaze
    Shelgon - Pressure / Magic Guard
    Salamence - Forewarn / Poison Point
    Beldum - Snow Warning / Justified
    Metang - Flare Boost / Steadfast
    Metagross - Tangled Feet / Battle Armor
    Regirock - Water Absorb / Dry Skin
    Regice - Poison Heal / Drought
    Registeel - Harvest / Pickpocket
    Latias - Pickpocket / Limber
    Latios - Harvest / Heavy Metal
    Kyogre - Pickpocket / Sand Veil
    Groudon - Simple / Rain Dish
    Rayquaza - Rain Dish / Dry Skin
    Jirachi - Snow Cloak / Solar Power
    Deoxys-Attack - Cloud Nine / Unaware
    Deoxys-Normal - Early Bird / Flare Boost
    Deoxys-Speed - Unburden / Reckless
    Deoxys-Defense - Sand Force / Quick Feet
    Turtwig - Swift Swim / Marvel Scale
    Grotle - Pressure / Stall
    Torterra - Pickpocket / Sand Rush
    Chimchar - Drought / Solid Rock
    Monferno - Stall / Unnerve
    Infernape - Super Luck / Intimidate
    Piplup - Quick Feet / Heatproof
    Prinplup - Technician / Overgrow
    Empoleon - Rain Dish / Skill Link
    Starly - Liquid Ooze / Defiant
    Staravia - Iron Barbs / Multiscale
    Staraptor - Flare Boost / Flash Fire
    Bidoof - Pure Power / Ice Body
    Bibarel - Super Luck / Snow Warning
    Kricketot - Sturdy / Quick Feet
    Kricketune - Steadfast / Clear Body
    Shinx - Pickpocket / Sheer Force
    Luxio - Motor Drive / Solar Power
    Luxray - Weak Armor / Insomnia
    Budew - Sheer Force / Victory Star
    Roserade - Victory Star / Gluttony
    Cranidos - Quick Feet / Color Change
    Rampardos - Victory Star / Sniper
    Shieldon - Normalize / Sap Sipper
    Bastiodon - Battle Armor / Damp
    Burmy - Light Metal / Inner Focus
    Wormadam-Plant - Sand Veil / Sniper
    Wormadam-Trash - Limber / Motor Drive
    Wormadam-Sandy - Hustle / Sand Force
    Mothim - Defiant / Unburden
    Combee - Lightningrod / Normalize
    Vespiquen - Simple / Tangled Feet
    Pachirisu - Super Luck / Heavy Metal
    Buizel - Storm Drain / Pressure
    Floatzel - Imposter / Mold Breaker
    Cherubi - Flash Fire / Guts
    Cherrim - Leaf Guard / Battle Armor
    Shellos - Own Tempo / Swift Swim
    Gastrodon - Hustle / Rivalry
    Ambipom - Unaware / Drizzle
    Drifloon - Drought / Adaptability
    Drifblim - Bad Dreams / Cute Charm
    Buneary - Rattled / Early Bird
    Lopunny - Snow Warning / Justified
    Mismagius - Sticky Hold / Defiant
    Honchkrow - Poison Heal / Harvest
    Glameow - Toxic Boost / Light Metal
    Purugly - Shadow Tag / Sturdy
    Chingling - Magnet Pull / Flare Boost
    Stunky - Super Luck / Download
    Skuntank - Wonder Skin / Leaf Guard
    Bronzor - Mummy / Hustle
    Bronzong - Defiant / No Guard
    Bonsly - Tangled Feet / Soundproof
    Mime Jr. - Flame Body / Victory Star
    Happiny - Stench / Unnerve
    Chatot - Wonder Skin / Sap Sipper
    Spiritomb - Effect Spore / Cute Charm
    Gible - Drizzle / Magma Armor
    Gabite - Flame Body / Bad Dreams
    Garchomp - Sticky Hold / Normalize
    Munchlax - Marvel Scale / Drought
    Riolu - Analytic / Tangled Feet
    Lucario - Magnet Pull / Poison Touch
    Hippopotas - Klutz / Clear Body
    Hippowdon - Swift Swim / Gluttony
    Skorupi - Cursed Body / Pickpocket
    Drapion - Sheer Force / Suction Cups
    Croagunk - Oblivious / Sap Sipper
    Toxicroak - Iron Fist / Anger Point
    Carnivine - Bad Dreams / Defiant
    Finneon - Leaf Guard / Mummy
    Lumineon - Pickpocket / Big Pecks
    Mantyke - Arena Trap / Battle Armor
    Snover - Storm Drain / Inner Focus
    Abomasnow - Clear Body / Own Tempo
    Weavile - Solid Rock / Chlorophyll
    Magnezone - Reckless / Swift Swim
    Lickilicky - Download / Arena Trap
    Rhyperior - Scrappy / Mummy
    Tangrowth - Defiant / Simple
    Electivire - Adaptability / Toxic Boost
    Magmortar - Immunity / Cloud Nine
    Togekiss - Intimidate / Pickpocket
    Yanmega - Prankster / Clear Body
    Leafeon - Water Absorb / Cursed Body
    Glaceon - Color Change / Trace
    Gliscor - Drought / Clear Body
    Mamoswine - Liquid Ooze / Tangled Feet
    Porygon-Z - Soundproof / Compoundeyes
    Gallade - Ice Body / Chlorophyll
    Probopass - No Guard / Heatproof
    Dusknoir - Natural Cure / Sand Force
    Froslass - Overcoat / Heatproof
    Rotom - Steadfast / Gluttony
    Rotom-Heat - Rain Dish / Clear Body
    Rotom-Wash - Torrent / Overcoat
    Rotom-Frost - Pressure / Cloud Nine
    Rotom-Fan - Sticky Hold / Klutz
    Rotom-Mow - Oblivious / Synchronize
    Uxie - Limber / Heatproof
    Mesprit - Clear Body / Shadow Tag
    Azelf - Dry Skin / Defiant
    Dialga - Rain Dish / Pickpocket
    Palkia - No Guard / Contrary
    Heatran - Technician / Keen Eye
    Regigigas - Wonder Skin / Contrary
    Giratina-Origin - Quick Feet / Frisk
    Giratina-Altered - Rattled / Motor Drive
    Cresselia - Toxic Boost / Scrappy
    Phione - Unburden / Moxie
    Manaphy - Gluttony / Synchronize
    Darkrai - Rattled / Thick Fat
    Shaymin-Sky - Quick Feet / Rattled
    Shaymin-Land - Magic Guard / Compoundeyes
    Arceus - Tangled Feet / Hyper Cutter
    Victini - Compoundeyes / Aftermath
    Snivy - Gluttony / Storm Drain
    Servine - Sap Sipper / Solar Power
    Serperior - Anger Point / Forewarn
    Tepig - Damp / Tinted Lens
    Pignite - Natural Cure / Rattled
    Emboar - Poison Heal / Magnet Pull
    Oshawott - Marvel Scale / Lightningrod
    Dewott - Storm Drain / Aftermath
    Samurott - Weak Armor / Klutz
    Patrat - Mummy / Synchronize
    Watchog - Cloud Nine / Swarm
    Lillipup - Storm Drain / Magic Bounce
    Herdier - Big Pecks / Reckless
    Stoutland - Poison Touch / Forewarn
    Purrloin - Imposter / Rain Dish
    Liepard - Ice Body / Tangled Feet
    Pansage - Steadfast / Own Tempo
    Simisage - Static / Own Tempo
    Pansear - Technician / Drizzle
    Simisear - Tinted Lens / Sniper
    Panpour - Swift Swim / Poison Touch
    Simipour - Analytic / Storm Drain
    Munna - Pure Power / Volt Absorb
    Musharna - Water Absorb / Solar Power
    Pidove - Solid Rock / Clear Body
    Tranquill - Flame Body / Hustle
    Unfezant - Moxie / Sand Veil
    Blitzle - Cursed Body / Speed Boost
    Zebstrika - Contrary / Adaptability
    Roggenrola - Chlorophyll / Natural Cure
    Boldore - Keen Eye / Flare Boost
    Gigalith - Compoundeyes / Iron Barbs
    Woobat - Compoundeyes / Poison Point
    Swoobat - Rain Dish / Sand Rush
    Drilbur - Pickpocket / Natural Cure
    Excadrill - Rain Dish / Tinted Lens
    Audino - Magic Bounce / Sand Veil
    Timburr - Levitate / Immunity
    Gurdurr - Pressure / Storm Drain
    Conkeldurr - Poison Heal / Mold Breaker
    Tympole - Liquid Ooze / Sheer Force
    Palpitoad - Super Luck / Tinted Lens
    Seismitoad - Anger Point / Liquid Ooze
    Throh - Sap Sipper / Analytic
    Sawk - Stench / Flash Fire
    Sewaddle - Sticky Hold / Unaware
    Swadloon - Magnet Pull / Magma Armor
    Leavanny - Wonder Skin / Unburden
    Venipede - Battle Armor / Sticky Hold
    Whirlipede - Trace / Rain Dish
    Scolipede - Trace / Technician
    Cottonee - Liquid Ooze / Hyper Cutter
    Whimsicott - Mummy / Snow Cloak
    Petilil - Sturdy / Weak Armor
    Lilligant - Lightningrod / Overgrow
    Basculin - Contrary / Volt Absorb
    Sandile - Suction Cups / Weak Armor
    Krokorok - Water Absorb / Infiltrator
    Krookodile - Tangled Feet / Magic Guard
    Darumaka - Hyper Cutter / Big Pecks
    Darmanitan - Synchronize / Poison Point
    Maractus - Solid Rock / Hyper Cutter
    Dwebble - Water Absorb / Ice Body
    Crustle - Magic Bounce / Super Luck
    Scraggy - Solar Power / Solid Rock
    Scrafty - Sturdy / Sand Rush
    Sigilyph - Swarm / Tangled Feet
    Yamask - Suction Cups / Poison Heal
    Cofagrigus - Light Metal / Cute Charm
    Tirtouga - Immunity / Magic Guard
    Carracosta - Toxic Boost / Harvest
    Archen - Multiscale / Sniper
    Archeops - Natural Cure / Blaze
    Trubbish - Rattled / Snow Warning
    Garbodor - Clear Body / Volt Absorb
    Zorua - Toxic Boost / Light Metal
    Zoroark - Early Bird / Sand Veil
    Minccino - Aftermath / Klutz
    Cinccino - Hyper Cutter / Lightningrod
    Gothita - Unaware / Effect Spore
    Gothorita - Cloud Nine / Mold Breaker
    Gothitelle - Overcoat / Magic Bounce
    Solosis - Imposter / Synchronize
    Duosion - Analytic / Magnet Pull
    Reuniclus - Natural Cure / Analytic
    Ducklett - Magma Armor / Victory Star
    Swanna - Shield Dust / Early Bird
    Vanillite - Arena Trap / Magma Armor
    Vanillish - Insomnia / No Guard
    Vanilluxe - Marvel Scale / Hyper Cutter
    Deerling - Drizzle / Water Veil
    Sawsbuck - Stench / Speed Boost
    Emolga - Stall / Sticky Hold
    Karrablast - Solid Rock / Own Tempo
    Escavalier - Unnerve / Compoundeyes
    Foongus - Clear Body / Imposter
    Amoonguss - Overcoat / Gluttony
    Frillish - Levitate / Poison Heal
    Jellicent - Thick Fat / Intimidate
    Alomomola - Cloud Nine / Serene Grace
    Joltik - Super Luck / Flash Fire
    Galvantula - Pure Power / Light Metal
    Ferroseed - Shield Dust / Overcoat
    Ferrothorn - Illusion / No Guard
    Klink - Stench / Unaware
    Klang - Blaze / Sniper
    Klinklang - Flame Body / Scrappy
    Tynamo - Color Change / Prankster
    Eelektrik - Moxie / Anticipation
    Eelektross - Liquid Ooze / Rattled
    Elgyem - Inner Focus / Illusion
    Beheeyem - Dry Skin / Damp
    Litwick - Victory Star / Snow Cloak
    Lampent - Snow Cloak / Drought
    Chandelure - Keen Eye / Magic Guard
    Axew - Sap Sipper / Guts
    Fraxure - Early Bird / Light Metal
    Haxorus - Motor Drive / Sand Veil
    Cubchoo - Unaware / Sticky Hold
    Beartic - Gluttony / Storm Drain
    Cryogonal - Sturdy / Defiant
    Shelmet - Light Metal / Technician
    Accelgor - Gluttony / Snow Cloak
    Stunfisk - Pickpocket / Battle Armor
    Mienfoo - Rattled / Multiscale
    Mienshao - Harvest / Cute Charm
    Druddigon - Sturdy / Prankster
    Golett - Snow Warning / Magic Guard
    Golurk - Aftermath / Frisk
    Pawniard - Water Veil / Liquid Ooze
    Bisharp - Snow Cloak / Forewarn
    Bouffalant - Static / Dry Skin
    Rufflet - Pure Power / Forewarn
    Braviary - Volt Absorb / Sand Veil
    Vullaby - Rock Head / Sniper
    Mandibuzz - Mummy / Iron Barbs
    Heatmor - Solid Rock / Overcoat
    Durant - Unnerve / Sand Rush
    Deino - Weak Armor / Tinted Lens
    Zweilous - Justified / Drizzle
    Hydreigon - Drought / Hustle
    Larvesta - Intimidate / Sniper
    Volcarona - Guts / Solar Power
    Cobalion - Poison Point / Magma Armor
    Terrakion - Wonder Skin / Shadow Tag
    Virizion - Moxie / Analytic
    Tornadus - Magma Armor / Battle Armor
    Tornadus-Therian - Iron Barbs / Blaze
    Thundurus - Clear Body / Hustle
    Thundurus-Therian - Anger Point / Insomnia
    Reshiram - Infiltrator / Tangled Feet
    Zekrom - Weak Armor / Limber
    Landorus - Soundproof / Mummy
    Landorus-Therian - Scrappy / Bad Dreams
    Kyurem - Hydration / Anger Point
    Kyurem-White - No Guard / Gluttony
    Kyurem-Black - Weak Armor / Shadow Tag
    Keldeo - Shed Skin / Speed Boost
    Meloetta-A/-P - Multiscale / Moxie
    Genesect - Effect Spore / Magma Armor


    Banlist:
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    Moody
    Wonder Guard
    Contrary Palkia
    Shadow Tag Terrakion
    Shadow Tag Kyurem-Black


    Possible Game Changers?:
    Magnet Pull Lucario
    Prankster Mewtwo
    Drizzle Dragonite
    Drought Hydreigon
    Motor Drive Haxorus
    Pure Power Galvantula
    Simple Groudon
    Natural Cure Archeops
    No Guard Palkia
    Speed Boost Keldeo
    Magic Guard Chandelure
    Magnet Pull Emboar

    Will Slaking and Regigigas shoot up in usage now that they aren't saddled with terrible abilities? Will certain Ubers fall now that they don't have their coveted prowess? I'm looking at you, Kyogre.

    Tell me what you all think. Is this just too crazy not to work? Or am I on to something?

    Things to consider:
    -'Ubers' allowed.
    -Regular clauses apply. (Sleep, OHKO, evasion, species)
    -Normal abilities are not included. Each Pokemon can only choose from the 2 abilities randomly generated.
    -(1) If an ability is banned, a new one will be randomly generated to replace it. (2) If a particular Pokemon with an ability is banned, it may use its other ability (as long as that's not banned too). [Example: (1) Moody was banned, so anything with Moody got a new ability. (2) Contrary Palkia was banned, but No Guard Palkia can still be used.]

    Some reference:

    Weather Inducers:
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    Drizzle: Golduck
    Grimer
    Shellder
    Dragonite
    Mewtwo
    Sunflora
    Ambipom
    Gible
    Pansear
    Deerling
    Zweilous

    Drought: Nidorino
    Gloom
    Lapras
    Hoppip
    Shuckle
    Porygon2
    Sealeo
    Regice
    Chimchar
    Drifloon
    Munchlax
    Gliscor
    Lampent
    Hydreigon

    Sand Stream (does not block Sand damage if user is not Rock/Steel/Ground): Charizard
    Abra
    Horsea
    Dragonite

    Snow Warning (does not block Hail damage if user is not Ice): Weepinbell
    Seadra
    Snorlax
    Ariados
    Milotic
    Beldum
    Bibarel
    Lopunny
    Trubbish
    Golett


    Trappers:
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    Arena Trap: Mankey
    Doduo
    Quagsire
    Mantyke
    Lickilicky
    Vanillite

    Shadow Tag: Metapod
    Electrode
    Wurmple
    Purugly
    Mesprit
    Terrakion
    Kyurem-Black


    Magnet Pull: Rhyhorn
    Jolteon
    Ho-oh
    Delcatty
    Chingling
    Lucario
    Emboar
    Swadloon
    Duosion


    Magic Bounce:
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    Raichu
    Victreebel
    Grimer
    Marowak
    Goldeen
    Politoed
    Jumpluff
    Lombre
    Masquerain
    Nincada
    Sableye
    Lillipup
    Audino
    Crustle
    Gothitelle


    Contrary:
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    Heracross
    Mudkip
    Silcoon
    Whismur
    Wailord
    Palkia
    Regigigas
    Zebstrika
    Basculin


    Illusion:
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    Raticate
    Arcanine
    Beautifly
    Torkoal
    Lunatone
    Ferrothorn
    Elgyem


    Speed Boost:
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    Dunsparce
    Crawdaunt
    Blitzle
    Sawsbuck
    Keldeo


    Prankster:
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    Clefairy
    Zubat
    Slowpoke
    Mewtwo
    Skiploom
    Cascoon
    Yanmega
    Tynamo
    Druddigon


    Imposter:
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    Venomoth
    Flareon
    Jumpluff
    Foretress
    Tyrogue
    Gulpin
    Floatzel
    Purrloin
    Solosis
    Foongus

    Imposter analysis:
    Imposter, like in Hackmons/BH, acts as a great check to Contrary and other boosters. In the case of Wonkymons, we have quite a few Pokemon to choose from with Imposter. In Hackmons and especially Balanced Hackmons, Blissey and Chansey are the exclusive Imposters. Blissey abuses the ability by copying every aspect of its foe (typing, ability, boosts, stats) except the HP stat. Since Blissey has the highest HP stat in the game, it’s no wonder it runs Imposter. Plus, when Blissey can’t copy a foe with Imposter due to Substitute or Illusion, she has her immense special bulk to fall back on.

    Chansey runs very similar to Blissey with a few exceptions. Since she is NFE, she can hold an eviolite, pumping up her defenses while retaining a huge HP stat (just 5 base points shy of Blissey.) The downside is she can no longer hold a Choice Scarf, leftovers, or lum berry, the three most common items held by Blissey.

    Wonkymons is a different ballgame. Contrarymons like Palkia (Draco Meteor), Heracross (Close Combat) and Regigigas (Superpower) and Speed Boost Keldeo pose huge threats if not properly checked. I have identified a few notable Imposters capable of turning the tides in your favor.

    In the same vein as Blissey, the Imposter with the biggest HP stat in Wonkymons is… Floatzel! While 85 HP doesn’t seem like much, it is far better than the paltry 48 belonging to the original Imposter, Ditto. The ideal Buizel Imposter holds a Choice Scarf to serve as a revenge check to ensure it outspeeds its target. When it can’t copy something it can hit with Waterfall, Crunch or Ice Punch, steal moves with Me First or use Torment to try and prevent further Contrary abuse.

    The second Imposter worth considering is the NFE with the highest HP stat… Gulpin! 70 HP isn’t too far behind Floatzel’s 85, but the idea here is Gulpin equips an eviolite to spruce up its defenses. Imagine copying Regigigas: 70/110/110 with +1/+1 Def/SpD is nothing to scoff at. If it’s unable to copy something it is a little unequipped to function on its own. It can use Pain Split, Destiny Bond, and Counter to some effect though.

    If using one of the other Imposters, you have to weigh other factors besides the HP stat that can make them viable. Forretress is probably the most usable other Imposter since it can still fill the solid support role it’s known for in Standard play and is a good check for Heracross behind a sub (since Close Combat only boosts Defense and Special Defense and Heracross can’t Swords Dance.)


    Magic Guard:
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    Sandshrew
    Poliwhirl
    Ninjask
    Shelgon
    Shaymin-Land
    Krookodile
    Tirtouga
    Chandelure
    Golett


    Poison Heal:
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    Dugtrio
    Primeape
    Poliwrath
    Electabuzz
    Eevee
    Meganium
    Typhlosion
    Granbull
    Suicune
    Ho-oh
    Makuhita
    Delcatty
    Regice
    Honchkrow
    Emboar
    Conkeldurr
    Yamask
    Frillish


    Thanks!
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2013
  2. trulyElse

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    Right off the bat, I see Elekid's getting an Air balloon.

    Other observations:

    * Ho-oh will run Facade with Poison Heal.
    * Slaking's ability will not be relevant any further than "It's not Truant", considering it's only got one move that benefits.
    * Galvantula's physical moveset leaves a lot to be desired, although it's sheer strangth may allow it to use a neutral STAB to take a few threats out. (Can't do the calculations right now.) Rufflet may be a bigger threat ...
    * Shaymin-Land is the only Magic-Guard user. This may change things a bit.
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    Here are some of my favorites from the list:
    - Contrary Zebstrika (overheat spam)
    - Prankster Yanmega
    - Shadow Tag Electrode / Purugly
    - Chlorophyll Articuno
    - Moxie Virizion
    - Lightningrod Raikou (one of the few abilities that fit :O)
    - Multiscale Steelix / Meloetta
  4. cant say

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    Did Scrafty seriously get moxie? That's gotta go.
    Suppose Palkia gets Blizzard, Thunder, Fireblast, Focus Blast and Stone Edge with No Guard. Could be a good choice user..
  5. The Eevee General

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    Good catch on Scrafty! I will change that when I get home.

    And I was thinking of doing a random move generator to spice up everyone's movepool. More on that later.
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    Any chance of putting secondary abilities on, or are these in addition to their normal ones?
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    OP: Air Ballon Elekid with Wonder Guard.

    use it with a spinner and magic bounce audino

    Have fun!

    (you're missing the therian formes)
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    I think Sand Stream Dragonite and Illusion Torkoal are my favorites, lol.
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    I like the concept, but somethings are a little sketch. Honestly, you may want to consider removing Wonder Guard and Pure Power because they are way to good. The only abuser of Pure Power seems to be Galvantula, but that is scary as hell. Jolly Galvantula clears 500 attack with no item. It might have barely any physical moves, but it has STABs (Wild Charge and X-Scissor), Sucker Punch, and reliable Return. Not to mention Agility, which will put Adamant in front of everything with a LO 556 attack stat. Or you can just CB spam, with a starting attack of 759. As for Wonder Guard, so many Pokemon are set up bait for what is already a fantastic set up sweeper, Volcarona. I don't think Elekid with a Balloon can be beaten without Mold Breakers, of which we have Wynaut and Spinarak, and it can beat both 1 v 1. It can Curse it's way to 988 Attack and destroy you. While the idea of pure random if great, I don't think your current metagame is balanced at all, and a balanced metagame is what promotes creativity.

    As a small note, you also have Forecast in there, which I'm pretty sure only works for Castform. I also think you should give each Pokemon two abilities, but all this is your call.
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  10. Kenny

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    Maybe you could run the list one, maybe two more times so pokemon have more than ability to chose from?
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    Not sure if people are joking

    Or are legitimately interested

    Anyways, I agree with Ace Emerald in that it's a decent concept but the execution is rather iffy and really seems messed up Air Balloon Elekid breaks the meta. I also agree with Relados that their original abilities should be available
  12. Molk

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    im really liking the thought of sheer force drapion, even if it still wasnt viable in OU it would still be cool in the UU metagame with the elemental fangs, crunch, poison jab: etc to abuse it with. Multiscale steelix and tinted lens sceptile also caught my eye. (im an RU player so yeah, lol).

    I personally agree that abilities like wonder guard and pure power should be removed and randomly replaced. It just doesnt seem balanced when one of the top threats in OU (volcarona) is immune to many forms of direct damage. Theres also lol elekid, who would be pretty much unbeatable if its holding an air balloon :/.

    Overall i think this is pretty cool =).

    EDIT: magic guard land shaymin :o
  13. SpecsX

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    I don't think you need to change the movepools, but another ability or two would be good. Ban Wonder Guard. Keep Pure Power for a while, I think it might not be that OP.
    No Guard Zap Cannon Probopass guys. Tinted Lens Specs Leaf Storm from Sceptile.
    Snow Warning Snorlax.
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    Also, ubers banned or not?
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    Oh dear. I could have a lot of nightmares about this thing.

    Interestingly, Frillish' species in Japanese uses the same text as Levitate.

    ...and of course gamefreak made it so that Kyurem is the only Unova Icemon to not get Sheer Cold...Oh well it can still spam Blizzards.
    Lol

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    Snow Cloak Jirachi

    !
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    HaxRachi just got more annoying.

    No mons with Guts?
    Ban Flare Boost Gligar.
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    If ubers are allowed, I'm up for a battle (no air balloon elekid <_>) if you are, hit me up on the OM IRC server


    EDIT : Did my first match (possibly the first match ever) and Volcarona is considerably unflappably broken
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    Posting to say that this is the best other metagame since six move battling. Had some good laughs over some of this stuff; gonna be building a team over the weekend to rock the house.

    However, I have a few suggestions. First, you said that Pokemon don't get the same abilities that they originally had, but Scrafty has Moxie... Did you check for Dream World abilities? And what about move illegalities, specifically with moves Pokemon receive in the Dream World? And what about Pokemon that are currently ranked in Ubers; are they allowed? Also, I think we'd all like to see more. I think if Pokemon had two (or maybe even three) abilities, that would be awesome and give us some much needed diversity. What are your thoughts?
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    *Simple Breloom sounds scary with either a Bulk Up set or a Swords Dance priority abuse set
    *Wonder Skin Regigigas is sure to see some use but probably not as much as a few other things
    *Snow Warning Seadra could be a contender
    *Eviolite Drought Gloom could be fun
    *Drizzle Golduck sounds like a good time too
  20. The Eevee General

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    Thanks everyone for the feedback! I'm going to address some questions and comments.

    Relados:
    Birkal:
    Ace Emerald:
    Feranfell:
    SpecsX:
    Due to the multiple requests/suggestions to add more abilities, I'm giving everyone a second ability!

    Amarillo:
    Fixed. Thanks!

    Ace Emerald:
    Molk:
    SpecsX:
    I'm going to exclude Pure Power and Wonder Guard from the second abilities column and see how more people in the community feel about their ban. Also, considering banning Moody since it was swiftly banned in the regular meta. Thoughts?

    Ace Emerald:
    Fixed. New abilities will be given to those with Forecast. Thanks!

    Feranfell:
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    I was thinking this meta might shift into a few different tiers, similar to the regular one. Maybe a Wonkymons Ubers, OU, UU/NU, and LC? Or is that asking too much? Obviously some things are going to be too powerful for regular play. Kinda mulling this one over. Will definitely consider feedback!
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    Asking too much to split up Wonkymons into Ubers, OU, and everything else. How about we just start fresh (no ubers) and if we need to ban stuff we can.

    Also voting Ban Moody, Wonder Guard, and Pure Power.
  22. The Eevee General

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    I agree on not splitting it up ATM. I also think Moody should be banned. I kind of want to see how Wonder Guard and Pure Power could play out since Ubers are allowed.

    Also, generating new 2nd abilities rite now. Adding to list soon.
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    Shadow Tag Electrode is actually interesting - it's just what Electrode needs in order to be a relevant threat in OU. I can see this going well.

    Something like this set, used in the rain, would be a hell of a revenge killer.

    Electrode@Choice Specs
    Timid
    4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe

    -Thunder
    -Volt Switch
    -Hidden Power [Ice]
    -Signal Beam

    Basically, play it like it was running Thunder/--/--/--. Spam Specs Thunders on things that don't have a favorable type matchup.

    Barring fast Pokémon with boosts, you're not going to be outrun.
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    New secondary abilities are up! Some big threats have developed...

    Volcarona gets Solar Power.
    Shadow Tag Terrakion.
    Speed Boost Keldeo.
    Contrary Palkia.
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    Deoxys-Speed - Unburden

    This is probably the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. Also there are a couple of really, really cool things that have appeared. Motor Drive Haxorus? Sand Rush scrafty? It's just cool. It would be impossible to memorize all of this, but I think with some kind of challenge-cup style battling it would be very fun.

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