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Discussion in 'OM Archive' started by Eevee General, Oct 8, 2012.
And it takes out the main Wonder Guarders.
Sorry double post, but I just realized Hydreigon gets Hustle. It's usually associated with Drought, but Hustle gives it hugely powerful Outrages. You just need a way to clear out Shadow Tag Terrakion first or run Focus Sash.
Loving The Wonkeymons! Got Swept By A Scarf Palkia, Anyway Hope The Eevee General Makes More Great Metas!
Drizzle Dragonite, Wonder Guard Volcarona and Contrary Palkia will be ridiculously good. Free 100% spammable Thunders and STAB Hurricanes at will? Yes please. Immune to all but water / rock / flying while setting up Quiver Dances? Yes please? Uber-level Dragon with increasingly powerful Draco Meteors? HELL F**KING YES!
Also Hustle Hydreigon's Outrage would be about 15-20% STRONGER than Medicham's Hi Jump Kick. That's insane.
Motor Drive Haxorus has been noted, but I'm pretty sure this set is what might break him
Haxorus@Life Orb/Yache Berry/Leftovers
EV's: 252 Attack/252 Speed
Trait: Sand Veil
Sand Veil negates the sandstorm damage. Basically this is Garchomp's dream set.
Wow, this thread isn't getting as much attention as it did. Anyways, has anyone noticed sand rush Scrafty? This would be blisteringly fast after a DD, and could do some serious damage.
There are some nice Sand Rushers in Wonkymons but no good Sand Stream setter. We get Charizard, Abra, Horsea, and Dragonite, all of whom are weak to passive sand damage. At least Dnite has Roost. :/
Well, Abra has Magic Guard, but lol it's abra. I think D-Nite is the best setter.
Abra doesn't keep Magic Guard in Wonkymons, and even if he did, he can't have two abilities.
Anyway, this thread should be alive! It's one of the best other metas.
Why wasn't stall removed, it's a bad ability
Why are some abilities bolded
And now Entei can either quad-resist fire and ice, or resist fire slightly less (3/4x effective) and get a water immunity (but hurt by sun lol), while Nuzleaf got two flamin' abilities
Plus Simple Double-Dancer Groudon
Also a many of the Drought users are good pokemon
This Meta looks awesome :)
Just some little hidden gems I found
1. Regenerator Zapdos could be pretty awesome. Defensive or SpD Zapdos is pretty good already, with reliable recovery, toxic, higher than average speed, access to phazing, and access to powerful stab even without investment. With Regenerator, it becomes even more of a tank, and nullifies its SR weakness a bit as well.
2. Toxic Boost E-vire could be pretty sick as well. With an already acceptable base 123 attack, it could wreak a ton of havoc with that 1.5x Attack boost from toxic. Access to Facade, Wild Charge, Earthquake, Cross Chop, and the elemental punches makes this thing a pretty decent threat. I imagine it could either run a Toxic Orb or just switch in on a toxic/TSpikes.
Awesome job with the meta, I'll probably give it a try soon :)
Edit: A great partner for Regenerator Zapdos on a stall team would be Harvest Registeel. Harvest gives Registeel what it needed to finally become an effective wall - reliable recovery. Granted, outside of the sun Harvest with a lum/chesto isn't quite as effective, but it's still pretty good. Registeel easily covers Zapdos' weaknesses to Rock and Ice, whereas Zapdos eats Ground and Fighting moves for breakfast.
Edit2: In other news for awesome electric types, LIGHTNINGROD RAIKOU. This thing would fit so well into a Rain Team, absorbing Electric type attacks and giving it a +1 boost, where it can then fire off ridiculous special attacks. I'm thinking something along the lines of this:
Raikou @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 SpA/252 Spe/4 SpD
- Weather Ball (base 100 rain boosted water move in the rain :3)
- HP Ice
- Volt Switch/Aura Sphere(rash)/Extrasensory
I like this, but I feel like there should be a UU tier added, since a lot of the game seems centered around things like Dragonite and Mewtwo, and so a lot of the weaker things that get good abilities don't get a lot of screentime. Anyway, I thought of an interesting set, it might be posted already, but here it is
Get Sand Stream going with Dragonite and you'll have a fun time crashing through everything, hopefully. I don't need to explain much else.
I might make a Pastebin with 'tiers' or at least OU and UU stuff. I don't play Wonky that much TBH so people would have to suggest ideas.
For OU I'd think it would be:
and so on
It's funny cause he did
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Thanks Immortal! You're so on top of all the mods; I love it!
Finally something changed to the server. cheezus
Contrary Palkia sounds scary, almost too good if you ask me. Can anything stop it now that Wonder Guard Elekid is banned?
yea, usually it runs Scarf, so even Camerupt can check it, otherwise a lot of scarfers can and mons that outspeed, also Castform
Prankster mewtwo? Oh gosh...
~ Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
~ Psystrike / Light Screen / Substitute 252 HP / 72 SpD / 184 Spe
Worship your new sableye!
Actually I used to run one with Calm Mind, Psystrike, Aura Sphere and Recover. It's basically the same as standard ubers mewtwo except it always gets to set up first now, and recover off the damage.
why are ubers banned now, I can't run my usual team at Joimslab
I don't know. I'll find out.
tbh this is one of the coolest OM's and it gets no love, which is a shame
I'd play it again on joimslab if it wasn't bugged with the ubers thing