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"Worst Pokémon Ever (as of Generation 6)"

Discussion in 'Orange Islands' started by SapphSabre777, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. sidakarya

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    Forgotten is definitely worse. Luvdisc and Delibird are at least memetically known for being absolute rubbish, so much that we write joke analyses of them (which are btw really entertaining to read), and Ledian is at least known for its great design ruined by terrible stats. With that have they at least made some mark upon the mind of the playerbase. They at least have some sort of appeal, and part of it is the very fact of being a shitmon. They incite the kind of fascination, that we get out of reading The Eye of Argon or watching Ed Wood movies.

    On the other hand, how much do you even hear Wormadam, Lumineon and Stantler getting half a mention, that is outside of "Pokémon you didn't remember existed" threads? They make it into that kind of category, because they're only bad, not spectacularly bad, or they're bad and don't have any other kind of appeal to the fanbase, such as design. That is a worse punishment than being an absolute joke imo, being forgotten as Pokédex-filler at best. At least Delibird gets some attention.
  2. Albacore

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    This. Say what you want about Farfech'd or Unown, at least they're unique. At least they make good jokes. But Stantler is nothing else than a very, very poor man's Tauros, and Lumineon is completely outclassed, even in its own tier.

    If there's anything worse than terrible Pokemon, it's extremely mediocre ones, because you can't even laugh at them.
  3. PrototypeX

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    I was still going with the Grass/Dragon idea but if he was to stay mono grass then you're right
  4. ouchalargerock

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    I can't stand Chesnaught.

    Design: It looks like someone kicked a football player in the naughty parts.

    Competitive: Poor-Man's Breloom with a gimmicky protect.

    In-Game Use: Without Bulletproof it's god awful, and a punishment to anyone who picked the cute Chespin.
  5. Petrico94

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    You know there are more tiers than where Breloom is used.
  6. Spydreigon

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    Forgotten is worse IMO. There are pokemon like Ariados and Ledian who plain out suck and nobody likes.
  7. ouchalargerock

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    Yeah, like UU, where I believe he is a threat.

    I still don't believe this makes him likable.

    Conkeldurr? He is good enough in the Meta for me to not hate him with a burning passion. Chesnaught has naught a reason for me to like him.
  8. Ignoth

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    I never even liked Charizard from a design standpoint =/

    Awkwardly long slender neck on top of a chubby stomach. Tiny knobbly limbs that are somehow smaller than its prevolutions...

    Throw in the fact that it's a fan-favorite that got TWO mega evolutions and I'm really irritated. Seriously Gamefreak? Why are you showing such blatant favoritism for starters? I assume the rest of the starters will get their Megas in time, but Charizard will forever have two and that just really bothers me.
  9. Scorpio

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    ^Probably GF caved into the demands of rabid Zard fanboys and gave it two.

    That being said, while I don't hate Zard, I kinda find Charmeleon to be infinitely cooler. It seems sleeker and it has a color scheme I like better. If Zard were more like Charmeleon I'd like it a lot more.
  10. MikeAU

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    My nomination for worst would be Snover. Tried twice with two different move-sets and I found by the time it evolved I had completely lost sympathy for its type weaknesses and the patience to pretend otherwise.

    These include (but are not limited to :P) x2 fighting / x2 flying / x2 poison / x2 rock / x2 bug / x2 Steel and wait for it ... the Candy Crush level 252 bonus... x4 FIRE.

    It is such a shame as I really enjoy grass pokemon and ice moves, however, both combined is a little ridiculous. It has a decent TM pool and an OK natural move pool. I just think 7 weaknesses on one pokemon is a bit excessive and really makes it hard to keep him in your team (or consider using him competitively).

    Although, once he evolves to abomasnow BST increase from 334 to 594 is quite impressive, however it still retains 7 natural weaknesses which at times can be too hard to manage
  11. Petrico94

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    #1 reason I had an Abomasnow in Diamond, I thought Snover looked cute. But yeah ice grass is never going to be a safe typing.
  12. Petrico94

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    Castform could have been a very flexible weather team element or possibly the axis of duel weather teams. Instead, it's 70/70/70/70/70/70 and just the first pokemon to use weather ball. An amazing concept of a gimmick, gone.
  13. StallMandibuzz

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    Castform was made solely to showcase the weathers. It's a pathetic joke 'Mon, with worthless stats, and a very very shallow move pool. Add the fact that it looks like a living nut sac, and I just can't take it seriously. It can use Weather Ball, yes, but both Victreebel and Roserade can do it infinitely better.
  14. Asek

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    How could you hate such a cute and individual pokemon :(

    My nomination for worst would have to be phione. I think it has got to be the most forgotten about pokemon since Stantler, and it has 0 Competitive use. 80 Base Stats across the board just don't cut it in game or competitively, it doesn't take hits well enough or hit hard enough to justify usage anywhere. When you factor in the fact that it can't even evolve into its parent pokemon, manaphy I think Phione is a solid contender for the worst pokemon in the game
  15. Petrico94

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    As an ice type, Glalie would be worse... if it didn't get moody. It gets 80 x 6 stats but atleast it can get better stats. Moody got banned because it's a bit of an exploit but atleast in game or outside the smogon rule he has some possible use. Phione has bad stats, here's Hydration, no tail glow for you, drizzle just got nerfed.
  16. Taehl

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    And yet it's still banned in VGC... Gamefreak logic.
  17. Petrico94

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    They ban all the event pokemon. If you consider that most people will never have them, it kind of makes sense. Now no one has to watch out for Victini and the people who didn't get the event aren't at what little disadvantage that would have made. And yet Mega-Kangaskhan still hasn't been stopped.
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  18. MikeAU

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    I actually am still working my way through 9 seasons of the anime to bring me back, but I saw a screen on wikipedia for the first widescreen ep that featured Snover. I saw it and thought wow -- a mini-mountain pokemon thats grass/ice.

    Concept wise, I appreciate and enjoy it. From a usefulness perspective, in anything other than story-line, I don't have a place for it :*(
  19. Onicon

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    We think we need to defend Lumineon to a degree. Sure, it is unremarkable in the main games but at least it is a powerful Pokemon in PMD2 in its own right. It is in one of the two lines that has Storm Drain, that makes the whole team immune to Water moves. Not only that, but for PMD standards, its movepool is unusual in a good way, sporting the solid Water Pulse, Ice Beam and U-Turn, the borderline broken Agility as an egg move, and some unorthodox stuff like Bounce (MAX power and accuracy in PMD, good roadblocker on the AI partner) and Silver Wind, which usually don't appear on Water mons (applied to a monster house, the chance is high that its stats will be raised, including the overpowered speed). Its only competition is Gastrodon, who does not have a useful secondary skill, a meh movepool for PMD standards and a godawful stat progression, which actually makes it easily replaced post main-story by Lumineon.

    Also, it's pretty, especially the shiny one. Thas kind of argument does not seem have a lot of impact here, that is just our opinion.
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  20. JackieKT

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    I remember those old PMD games, where crap moves became shockingly great (Teleport, Splash, PMD2 gave me a new appreciation for Sing) but everything good about MD died with Gates to Infinity.


    V-WHEEEEEEEEELLLLL
  21. ouchalargerock

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    I just skipped that game. I loved the first two, and am happy I didn't miss out on anything.


    EDIT: 5?
  22. JackieKT

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    Victini's V-Wheel. It's an unfortunately major aspect of the game.

    Also I loved the first two as well, though some of the dungeons & the "self deleting save in the dungeons" thing irked me, though I still loved it.
  23. BlazeStarter

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    Honestly, I'm not even sure where to begin for Pokemon I hate. Probably the reason I don't have any, though there's some I'm not as fond of as others. I can't ever decide on an easy favorite or least favorite as well. Though I'm not a huge fan of Barbarcle. Literally, a 4x weakness to Grass is too easy to exploit, and Grass Knot murders it easily. Though I'm a little surprised on what's been mentioned so far.
  24. Double Electric

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    Cherubi: The (surprise) Cherry Pokemon. As far as lazy uninspired designs go, it doesn't get much lower than this.

    It's also somewhat annoying to get in the original D/P, since you have to rely on Honey Trees to find one. Cherrim's Flower Gift ability is also trollish in that it for some reason doesn't raise the user's main attacking stat.
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  25. Petrico94

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    Meh, it's worse if a fully evolved pokemon is worthless. Magikarp is bad, we know, but Gyarados is a monster so atleast you get something a couple levels down. Cherrim however...
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    No good stats, same ability, is only worth looking at in sun (fire is now x4), permanent sun just got nerfed so it has to carry sunny day or always switch out. Atleast it gets weather ball? If you hated Castform as a failed weather gimmick, I guess this makes it look better. If they ever make a water version that changes form in rain I hope they get it right.
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