Project Z of the Week (Waterium Nominations)

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Twix

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Z of the Week

With the introduction of Z Crystals in Sun and Moon, metagames have had to adapt and prepare for them. Most of the time, Z Moves are used for boosting an already strong STAB attack, but can even be used as a support move or a lure. They provide a one-time use on top of a Pokemon's other attack at the cost of giving up an item slot.

Specific Z Moves:
Shoutout Celticpride's Z Move Discussion for this list
Electric - Gigavolt Havoc
Fighting - All-Out Pummeling
Normal - Breakneck Blitz
Fire - Inferno Overdrive
Water - Hydro Vortex
Grass - Bloom Doom
Ice- Subzero Slammer
Flying- Supersonic Strike
Bug - Savage Spin-Out
Poison - Acid Downpour
Dark - Black Hole Eclipse
Dragon - Devastating Drake
Ground - Tectonic Edge
Psychic - Shattered Psyche
Steel - Corkscrew Crash
Ghost - Never-Ending Nightmare
Rock - Continental Crush
Fairy - Twinkle Tackle

Pokemon Specific Z-Moves:

Stoked Sparksurfer - Alolan Raichu, Requires Thunderbolt, 175 BP, Electric, Special


Each week, I will nominate a specific Z Crystal and it will be your job to nominate specific sets which utilize it well. This will be seen in two specific categories: Nukes and Lures. There will be five days to post sets followed by two days to vote for the best ones! Whoever wins the week will be put into the archive.

Rules:
  1. Be creative but stay viable
  2. No shitty memes or unviable Pokemon
  3. Give solid explanations for your set
  4. Feel free to post some replays
  5. Do not change your set
  6. One mon per person
  7. DO NOT RESERVE SETS
  8. DON'T VOTE FOR YOURSELF

Current Slate:


DARKINIUM Z
 
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Twix

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Fightinium Z, nominate either a nuke (STAB move) or lure (coverage move)
(no reservations!!!)​
 
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Simipour @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast

LURE
Nasty Plot in conjunction with Fightinuim Z boosted Focus Blast provides a very strong coverage move, and with Simipour's decent Speed and Special Attack, it can can put a huge dent in or even OHKO things that would normally wall it. It also takes away the risk of missing for a turn.

252 SpA Simipour Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 124 SpD Eviolite Ferroseed: 144-170 (49.3 - 58.2%) -- 98% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Simipour Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Miltank: 288-340 (73 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 SpA Simipour Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 254-299 (59.6 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 SpA Simipour Focus Blast vs. 128 HP / 252+ SpD Lanturn: 184-217 (43.4 - 51.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 SpA Simipour Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 340-402 (83.1 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery


252 SpA Simipour All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 124 SpD Eviolite Ferroseed: 226-266 (77.3 - 91%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Simipour All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Miltank: 456-538 (115.7 - 136.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Simipour All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 401-472 (94.1 - 110.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Simipour All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 128 HP / 252+ SpD Lanturn: 291-343 (68.7 - 81%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 SpA Simipour All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 538-634 (131.5 - 155%) -- guaranteed OHKO


As you can see by the calcs, Fightinium Z turns a lot of bad matchups for Simipour into ones that are fairly winnable with the right chip. tbh, I think all the Simis are fairly slept on as Z-users but Simipour benefits the most from Fightinium
 
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allstarapology

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Magmortar @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Vital Spirit
EVs: 56 HP / 252 SpAtk / 200 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power Grass

This is a lure set. (my apologies for failing to state before)

Standard Magmortar set, but with Z Focus Blast, which allows it to break through Pokemon like Audino, Komala, Drampa, Miltank, Piloswine and others, which can normally take one hit and either shrug it off and heal up, OHKO it in retaliation or status it.

252+ SpA Magmortar All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Audino: 350-414 (85.5 - 101.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock


252+ SpA Magmortar All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Komala: 328-388 (98.2 - 116.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock


252+ SpA Magmortar All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 104 HP / 0 SpD Drampa: 478-564 (147.9 - 174.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO


252+ SpA Magmortar All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Miltank: 398-470 (101 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO


252+ SpA Magmortar All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Piloswine: 444-524 (109.9 - 129.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO


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Aggron: Lure
Aggron can run Fightinium Z to lure in opposing Aggron and Ferroseed, while also acting as a hard-hitting attack that can dent defensive mons. (Not really anything much of substance to say besides that).

Aggron @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Head Smash
- Heavy Slam
- Superpower
- Stealth Rock
 
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Lycanroc @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
- Brick Break
- Accelerock

lure

Pretty standar set that gives Lycanrock the ability to breakthrough fat steel types like ferroseed or utility sylvally steel that use to hard check it
 
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Regice @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rock Polish
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast

Lure

Helps regice break through boltbeam resists such as lanturn and destroying steels in general
 
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Raichu-Alola @ Aloraichium Z
Ability: Surge Surfer
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Psyshock
- Focus Blast

Nuke

Nothing really appreciates taking a +2 Z-Move, and coupled with Alolan Raichu's solid speed tier, it can turn the tides of a battle in an instant. Two things that separate Z-Move Alolan Raichu from other users is its access to Psyshock to surprise special walls that could possibly take it on, as well as Stoked Sparksurfer itself, guaranteeing that any living target will be Paralyzed. Not only does it let it beat most Choice Scarfers, but it also helps for cleaning late-game.
 

Twix

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Raichu-Alola @ Aloraichium Z
Ability: Surge Surfer
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Psyshock
- Focus Blast

Nuke

Nothing really appreciates taking a +2 Z-Move, and coupled with Alolan Raichu's solid speed tier, it can turn the tides of a battle in an instant. Two things that separate Z-Move Alolan Raichu from other users is its access to Psyshock to surprise special walls that could possibly take it on, as well as Stoked Sparksurfer itself, guaranteeing that any living target will be Paralyzed. Not only does it let it beat most Choice Scarfers, but it also helps for cleaning late-game.
uh sorry pal but this week is fightinium only :( you could probably just change it to fightinium z since it's still a good set and make it a lure
 
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Combusken @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Focus Blast
- Fire Blast
- Protect
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Nuke

Combusken makes for an effective cleaner in PU thanks to access to Speed Boost and a great offensive typing, but lacks the power necessary to break through some bulky mons. Fightinium Z gives Combusken access to a one-time nuke STAB, allowing it to more easily break through fire resists like Lanturn, Magmortar, and Qwilfish. With this, Combusken needs less support to put itself into a position to sweep.
 

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Primeape @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Bulk Up
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Nuke or Lure ig

Z-Bulk Up gives +2 Attack and +1 Defense making Primeape a threatening wallbreaker that can destroy defensive cores that lack good Fighting resists. +2 Ice punch can 2HKO Palossand and Gourgeist so thats where the lure part comes in and you can also chunk the things people use as discount Primeape checks such as Gastrodon and Oricorio Pom Pom. Fight-Z CC probably also deserves a mention as it can also function as a one time Nuke.
 

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Primeape @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Bulk Up
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Nuke or Lure ig

Z-Bulk Up gives +2 Attack and +1 Defense making Primeape a threatening wallbreaker that can destroy defensive cores that lack good Fighting resists. +2 Ice punch can 2HKO Palossand and Gourgeist so thats where the lure part comes in and you can also chunk the things people use as discount Primeape checks such as Gastrodon and Oricorio Pom Pom. Fight-Z CC probably also deserves a mention as it can also function as a one time Nuke.
I think the problem with this set comes with the fact that it's only slightly stronger than a +1 Life Orb Primeape and seems like an overall waste of the slot itself. I don't think the tiny bit of damage increase is enough to really warrant it being a set at all. I kinda like the idea of Fightinium Close Combat however, so that's a possible direction you can go it.

+2 252 Atk Primeape Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Primeape: 283-334 (104.4 - 123.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Primeape Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Primeape: 277-326 (102.2 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

Twix

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okay so I talked with some people and am categorizing the use of Z moves such as Focus Blast as nukes (if they are common on the Pokemon's sets already) due to the fact they aren't very surprising being on the set (ie Focus Blast Magmortar). that being said here are both so you can vote. VOTE FOR 1 LURE AND 2 NUKES.

LURES:
Lakeredman's Z Superpower Aggron
Lord Reyne's Z Brick Break Lycanroc


NUKES:

SergioRules's Z Focus Blast Simipour
drumstick's Z Focus Blast Magmortar
InfernoMonferno's Z Focus Blast Regice
ceal's Z Focus Blast Combusken

okay now vote
 
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