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Completed ZhengTann vs. Someoneelse: Seriously who is this guy?

Discussion in 'ASB' started by DFrog, Dec 29, 2012.

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  1. DFrog

    DFrog

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    Welcome to the ASB arena! A dude in a Nargacuga armour, ZhengTann, and ah–Someoneelse. This promises to be an exciting battle. Trainers ready? Battle!

    1. ZhengTann sends out, chooses ability & equips items (if any)
    2. Someoneelse sends out, chooses ability & equips items (if any) then orders
    3. ZhengTann orders
    4. I ref
    5. ???
    6. PROFIT!
  2. ZhengTann

    ZhengTann Nargacuga
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    ("Not a Hunter in Nargacuga armour. TheNargacuga. I take much offense when smelly humans mistake me for another of their two-legged kind. ") Elfman, show them that you can stand tall, Oblivious to the dangers simply because you are strong.

    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "Hey mon, you looking blue today - I predict."
  3. Someoneelse

    Someoneelse Why am I here?

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    I'm Batman!
    No, I'm actually just not you.

    If you didn't predict this, something is very wrong.
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    C'mon in, Flood, bringing your Torrents of water! Sorry, but I have no items.
    Waterfall > Rock Slide > Waterfall
    If Double team is used, use Rock Slide next action.
    If Substitute is used, use Waterfall next action.
  4. ZhengTann

    ZhengTann Nargacuga
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    6 words in 2 sentences - You forgot Protect. And Stealth Rock.
    [​IMG]
    "Hey mon, being waterlogged isn't fun, mon."

    Protect > Stealth Rock > Protect
  5. DFrog

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    Round 1

    Pre-round (open)

    Someoneelse's Mudkip
    AOO
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    90HP/100Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A



    ZhengTann's Numel
    AOO
    [​IMG]
    90HP/100Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A


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    The Hunter in the armour transformed into his true form the mighty Nargacuga! With an terrifying roar Elfman the Numel is sent out seemingly Oblivious to his trainers transformation, the little camel stands ready for battle. Someoneelse is unfazed, calling out Flood the Mudkip to douse the flame with a Torrential assault.

    With much vigour Flood covers himself in a blue aura, charging at Elfman like a Waterfall, despite Elfman's laid back appearance he is quick on the uptake surrounding himself with a green sphere–Protecting himself from all damage.

    Undeterred by Elfman's strong defence, Flood changes tact. This time burying the Numel with a volley of rocks. Elfman also uses the rocks in a passive manner–erecting pillars of stone around the mudfish. What are they planning?

    The last action is a repeat of the first however Elfan is significantly worse for wear than round, visibly cringing when deflecting a second powerful Waterfall.

    With Stealth Rock's on the field will the Nargacuga be able to pull off the win or will Someoneelse prove that brute force can beat strategy?


    Calc's (open)

    Round 1
    Action 1:
    Mudkip used Waterfall
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT]: 7559/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (EFFECT) [>8000 EFFECT]: 4314/9000 (NO)
    [(8+3+6-3)*2.25] = 31.5 damage
    -5 energy
    Numel used Protect
    7+(31.5/2.5) = -19.6 Energy

    Action 2:
    Mudkip used Rock Slide
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT]: 4018/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (Effect) [>7000 Flinch]: 292/10000 (NO)
    [(8+6-3)*1] = 11 damage
    -6 energy
    Numel used Stealth Rocks
    -12 energy

    Action 3:
    Mudkip used Waterfall
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT]: 948/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (EFFECT) [>8000 EFFECT]: 2885/9000 (NO)
    [(8+3+6-3)*2.25] = 31.5 damage
    -5 energy
    Numel used Protect
    7+(31.5/2.5) = -19.6 Energy


    Round Summary
    Mudkip: -16 Energy
    Numel: -10 HP, -51 Energy


    Someoneelse's Mudkip
    AOO
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    90HP/84Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rock



    ZhengTann's Numel
    AOO
    [​IMG]
    79HP/49Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field:N/A

    1. Spot any error's I have made
    2. ZhengTann orders/Initiates switch phase
    3. Someonelse responds
    4. I ref

    Edit: Caught the calculation mistake, I think that was the only part of the referee resource thread that I didn't fully read. Haha
  6. ZhengTann

    ZhengTann Nargacuga
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    Just a few things - Stat Differences are calculated like this:

    [box]- Multiply your attacking stat and your opponents defending stats by 1.5 (Eg. Mudkipp ~ 4*1.5 = 6, Numel ~ 2*1.5 = 3)
    - If any of the stats are higher than 5, the remainder is only multiplied by 1 (Eg. Rank 7 Attack would mean (5*1.5)+(2*1) = 9.5)
    - Deduct the difference.[/box]
    So Waterfall would've dealt (8+3+6-3)*2.25 = 31.5 damage to Numel, resulting in 19.6 energy lost each time Numel Protected. Same with Rock Slide dealing 11 damage instead of 10. End result means Numel used 51.2 energy, to be left with 79 HP, 49 EN. Also, I think your Flinch rolls mean [>7000 Flinch] and [>8000 Flinch] for Rock Slide and Waterfall respectively.

    But yeah, everything seems to be working okay, so I guess I'll switch to Charla, holding an Amulet Coin. You played your part well, Elfman, but now's not your time yet - there's a self-claimed OP-Sneasel I'd like you to meet. Besides, given the brute thrashing Flood-Mudkipp gave, she's the Natural Cure for our dilemma.
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "Hey Charla, mon, you might want to watch out. But nice gem, as always mon."
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "Why thank you, Elfman. And don't worry, I intend to give him a shock he'll never forget."

    Counterswitch?
  7. Someoneelse

    Someoneelse Why am I here?

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    Ya, switch to Sneasel, who is called OP because he is banned in Smogon LC. Wait a moment, I order. Have some Keen Eyes.
    Fake Out > Shadow Claw > Scratch + Fury Swipes
    If Signal Beam A2 or A3, use Agilidodge on the first instance and push actions back.
    If Barrier A2 or A3, use Screech.
  8. ZhengTann

    ZhengTann Nargacuga
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    Why go typing-effectiveness when non-resisted STAB deals more? Why rely on raw damage when a tactical effect can take you further? Why putting up a wall when you can deal recoil?
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "Try this on, and have a splash while you're at it."

    Surf > Scald+Scald {Blistering Exceed Wing!!} > combo cooldown (Harden)
  9. DFrog

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    Round 2

    Pre-Round (open)
    Someoneelse's Sneasel
    AAO
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    90HP/100Energy
    Speed: 115
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rocks



    ZhengTann's Staryu
    AAO
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    90HP/100Energy
    Speed: 85
    Item: Amulet Coin
    Ranks:1/2/4/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A

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    Two new combatants join the fray, replacing their teammates. On one side is Charla the Staryu and on the other side is OP the Sneasel who is getting pelted by the rocks set up last round!

    OP opens with a super fast strike flinching Charla, causing her(?) to be unable to act.

    Following up OP channels a dark aura around his claws, then rakes them across Charla's body. In retaliation she blasts super heated water at OP, burning him–a status that is sure to hinder Sneasel's usefulness to the outcome of the battle.

    OP goes into a frenzy, furiously scratching Staryu–even scoring a critical hit! However the burn proved to be a hinderance, greatly reducing the damage that could've been. Meanwhile Charla is cooling down and is unable to act.

    The Nargacuga has begun to pull ahead in the battle, largely owing to the Stealth Rock's on the opponents field. Can Someoneelse make comeback?

    Calc's (open)

    Sneasel takes Stealth Rock damage
    12+3 = 15 damage
    Round 2
    Action 1:
    Sneasel used Fake Out
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT]: 5624/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (EFFECT) [>8000 EFFECT]: GUARANTEED
    [(4+6-3)*1] = 7 damage
    -4 energy
    Staryu flinched!

    Action 2:
    Sneasel used Shadow Claw
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=1250 CRIT]: 1505/10000 (NO)
    [(8+6-3)*1] = 11 damage
    -6 energy
    Staryu used Scald+Scald {Blistering Exceed Wing}
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT]: 3807/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (EFFECT) [>4000 EFFECT]: 9443/10000 (YES) Sneasel is burned
    [18+3+6-4.5]*1 = 22.5 damage
    -24.5 energy
    Sneasel
    -2HP burn damage

    Action 3:
    Sneasel used Fury Swipes+Scratch
    Fury Swipes+Scratch hit 3 times
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT]: 6000/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT]: 102/10000 (YES)
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT]: 3531/10000 (NO)
    [(13+1+6-3)*1] = 17 damage
    (4+3)*1.5 = -10.5 energy
    Staryu Cooled Down
    Sneasel
    -2HP bun damage


    Round Summary
    Sneasel: -42 HP, - 21Energy
    Staryu: -35 HP, -25 Energy

    Someoneelse's Sneasel
    AAO
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    48HP/79Energy
    Speed: 115
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/3
    Status: Burned
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:Cool Down 1A
    Field: Stealth Rocks
    Someoneelse's Bench (open)

    Someoneelse's Mudkip
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    90HP/84Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rock


    ZhengTann's Staryu
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    55HP/75Energy
    Speed: 85
    Item: Amulet Coin
    Ranks:1/2/4/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A
    ZhengTann's Bench (open)
    ZhengTann's Numel
    [​IMG]
    79HP/49Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field:N/A


    1. Correct any calculation errors
    2. ZhengTann orders/Initiates switch phase
    3. Someoneelse responds
    4. I ref

    Edit: Fixed the calculation error (that I keep making ugh) & I corrected the RNG roll to reflect what I actually meant [that Sneasel had a 40% chance not be burned rather than 60%]
  10. Someoneelse

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    With Sneasel's Shadow Claw, you calculated with their plain stats (4&2) rather than their actual calculation stats (6&3).
    With Staryu's Scald combo the chance should be 6/10 for the future as well (effect*2)
  11. ZhengTann

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    Calcs work (open)

    • Stealth Rock only does 12+3 = 15 damage to Sneasel (no need to multiply by 1.5 again, just add 3 for each weakness and deduct 3 for each resistance, so Scyther for example would've taken 18 damage, Lucario 6).
    • Critical hits nullify Burn nerfs in ASB, and multi-hit attacks deal 1 extra damage per crit (normal 1-hit attacks deal 3 crit damage, 2-hit attacks deal 2 extra damage per crit), so Sneasel's combo would've dealt 13+1+6-3 = 17 damage to Staryu.
    • So after that round, Staryu is left with 55 HP, Sneasel 48 HP.
    Also some obscure rulings (open)
    According to Referee Resource Thread OP (in Switch Methods hide tags) the same trainer may not initiate Switch Phase twice. But most people didn't notice those rules and thus ignored them, anyway. Objection and dogfish44 were for abolishing it, but until that happens I'll follow it anyway. If Someoneelse sees this and doesn't mind, PM me and I'll change my orders accordingly.

    EDIT: Changed orders to Initiate Switch Phase again, since Someoneelse allowed me to.

    Alright, let's press on with our advantage, your turn's up, Elfman. He'll pretty much switch to Flood-Mudkip again, but this time we'll be more prepared.
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    "Back to you, Elfman - I'm sure you won't miss this one."
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "Not for the world, mon."

    Counterswitch?
  12. Someoneelse

    Someoneelse Why am I here?

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    I don't mind. You can change your orders if you'd like.
    CounterEdit: I don't think I can, so Come @ me.
    Even if I can, I don't care.
  13. ZhengTann

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    Oh I see. You wanted to minimise hazards damage to maximise your chance of winning. Unfortunately there's more to that. We've prepared a fallback contingency on this, haven't we, Elfman?
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "Gotta chill, mon - I know mon, sounds strange coming outta my mouth, eh?"

    Chill > Flamethrower
    > Chill
    IF you are Taunted and unable to Chill, THEN replace Chill with Ember.
    IF Sneasel is under the effects of Protective/Evasive actions when targeted by Flamethrower, THEN push actions back.
  14. Someoneelse

    Someoneelse Why am I here?

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    You forgot something.
    Cooldown (NA) > Fake Out > Ice Punch
    "He wants to chill, I'll help him with that"
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    Round 3

    Pre-Round

    Someoneelse's Sneasel (OP)
    AAO
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    48HP/79Energy
    Speed: 115
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/3
    Status: Burned
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:Cool Down 1A
    Field: Stealth Rocks
    Someoneelse's Bench (open)

    Someoneelse's Mudkip
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    90HP/84Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rock


    ZhengTann's Numel (Elfman)
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    79HP/49Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field:N/A
    ZhengTann's Bench (open)
    ZhengTann's Staryu
    [​IMG]
    55HP/75Energy
    Speed: 85
    Item: Amulet Coin
    Ranks:1/2/4/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A

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    Elfman comes back out to combat OP–a perhaps unwise turn of events Someoneelse opts to keep OP in. With smart strategy Someoneelse is able to avoid direct damage (for now) from the little camel, however due to his burned status the damage inflicted was minimal. OP is definitely fighting a loosing battle.
    Calc's (open)

    Round 3:

    Action 1:
    Sneasel cooled down
    Numel chilled
    +12 energy
    Sneasel was hurt by burn
    -2HP

    Action 2:
    Sneasel used Fake Out
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT] = 1114/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (EFFECT): GUARANTEED!
    [(4+6-3-3)*1] = 4 damage
    -4 energy
    Numel flinched
    Sneasel was hurt by burn
    -2HP

    Action 2:
    Sneasel used Ice Punch
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT] = 3090/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (EFFECT) [>9000 EFFECT] = 6733/10000 (NO)
    [(8+3+6-3-3)*1] = 11 damage
    -5 energy
    Numel chilled
    +12 energy
    Sneasel was hurt by burn
    -2HP

    Round Summary:
    Sneasel: -6HP, -9 energy
    Numel: -15HP, +24 energy


    Someoneelse's Sneasel (OP)
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    42HP/70Energy
    Speed: 115
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/3
    Status: Burned
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rocks
    Someoneelse's Bench (open)

    Someoneelse's Mudkip
    [​IMG]
    90HP/84Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rock


    ZhengTann's Numel (Elfman)
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    64HP/73Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field:N/A
    ZhengTann's Bench (open)
    ZhengTann's Staryu
    [​IMG]
    55HP/75Energy
    Speed: 85
    Item: Amulet Coin
    Ranks:1/2/4/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A

    1. Correct errors in calculations (if any)
    2. Someoneelse orders/initiates switch phase
    3. ZhengTann responds
    4. I ref
  16. Someoneelse

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    I think it's your turn again, Flood.
    Initiate Switch Phase
    Sneasel (OP) > Mudkip (Flood)
  17. ZhengTann

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    Ouch, didn't notice that cooldown. Yet another glorious miscalculation, hip hip hurrah. Well, at least you're now better prepared against OP-Sneasel and Firefly-Larvesta. But again, Flood-Mudkip was never your opponent to begin with. Counterswitch accepted.
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "This is going to be longer than I thought, mon. By the way, Charla - Flood-Mudkip looks dirty, mon."
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "Really? Then let's give him a washover."

    Water Gun > Thunderbolt > Thunderbolt
    IF Mudkip is under the effects of Protective/Evasive moves when targeted by Thunderbolt, THEN replace that action with Barrier.
    IF Mudkip uses Bide A1, THEN replace A2 with Recover.
  18. Someoneelse

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    Bite > Bide > Hold
    If you are paralysed by Thunderbolt, ragequit.
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    Round 4

    Pre-Round

    Someoneelse's Mudkip (Flood)
    AAO
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    90HP/84Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rock
    Someoneelse's Bench (open)

    Someoneelse's Sneasel (OP)
    [​IMG]
    42HP/70Energy
    Speed: 115
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/3
    Status: Burned
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rocks


    ZhengTann's Staryu (Charla)
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    55HP/75Energy
    Speed: 85
    Item: Amulet Coin
    Ranks:1/2/4/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A
    ZhengTann's Bench (open)
    ZhengTann's Numel (Elfman)
    [​IMG]
    64HP/73Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field:N/A

    [​IMG]
    Staryu's solid damage output pushed Flood to the brink where another Thunderbolt would KO, however the smart use of bide turned the tide of this engagement. It would seem that Flood will come out on top of this engagement, albeit weak and tired. What will ZhengTann do to make the best of this situation?
    Calc's (open)

    Mudkip takes Stealth Rock damage
    -12HP
    Round 4

    Action 1:
    Staryu used Water Gun
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT] = 8735/10000 (NO)
    [(4+3+6-3)*0.67] = 6.7 damage
    -2 energy
    Mudkip was drenched for {3} actions
    Mudkip used Bite
    RNG Roll [<=625 CRIT] = 1855/10000 (NO)
    [(6+6-3)*1] = 9 damage
    -4 energy

    Action 2:
    Mudkip used Bide
    Staryu used Thunderbolt
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT] = 1569/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (EFFECT) [<1000 EFFECT] = 8106/10000 (NO)
    [(10+6-3)*2.25] = 29.25 damage
    -7 energy

    Action 3:
    Mudkip is storing energy
    Staryu used Thunderbolt
    RNG Roll (CRIT) [<=625 CRIT] = 6473/10000 (NO)
    RNG Roll (EFFECT) [<1000 EFFECT] = 5787/10000 (NO)
    [(10+6-3)*2.25] = 29.25 damage
    -13 energy

    Round Summary:
    Staryu: -9HP, -22 energy
    Mudkip: -77HP, -4 energy About to unleash the stored energy


    Someoneelse's Mudkip (Flood)
    AAO
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    13HP/80Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:Drenched {1A}
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other: About to unleash the stored energy
    Field: Stealth Rock
    Someoneelse's Bench (open)

    Someoneelse's Sneasel (OP)
    [​IMG]
    42HP/70Energy
    Speed: 115
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/3
    Status: Burned
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rocks


    ZhengTann's Staryu (Charla)
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    46HP/53Energy
    Speed: 85
    Item: Amulet Coin
    Ranks:1/2/4/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A
    ZhengTann's Bench (open)
    ZhengTann's Numel (Elfman)
    [​IMG]
    64HP/73Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field:N/A

    1. Correct calculation errors (if any)
    2. Someoneelse orders
    3. ZhengTann prepares his anus responds
    4. I ref
  20. Someoneelse

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    Release Bide > Chill > Chill
    If Staryu is not dead by A2, ragequit.
    If I can think of more Subs that have purposes, yell "WTF Brain!"
  21. ZhengTann

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    Compliments on this very smart move. Had I worded my substitution better...
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "Be that as it may, the damage is done."

    Thunderbolt > Recover > Chill

    P.S. Not really important to the outcome, but consecutive moves incur 4 energy penalty, not 6, so Thunderbolt only uses up 11 energy at A3. Also, I'm to order 1st next round, so might as well shorten our time and send in Gajeel the Murkrow, with Exp. Share equipped plus his orders of vengeance.
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    "You don't mess with the girls. But then, by that decree, I shouldn't mess with you."

    Dark Pulse > Night Shade > Astonish
  22. DFrog

    DFrog

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    Round 5

    Someoneelse's Mudkip (Flood)
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    13HP/80Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:Drenched {1A}
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other: About to unleash the stored energy
    Field: Stealth Rock
    Someoneelse's Bench (open)

    Someoneelse's Sneasel (OP)
    [​IMG]
    42HP/70Energy
    Speed: 115
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/3
    Status: Burned
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rocks


    ZhengTann's Staryu (Charla)
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    46HP/53Energy
    Speed: 85
    Item: Amulet Coin
    Ranks:1/2/4/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: N/A
    ZhengTann's Bench (open)
    ZhengTann's Numel (Elfman)
    [​IMG]
    64HP/73Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field:N/A
    [​IMG]
    Charla the Staryu is obliterated by the force of Flood bide. However, the mudfish is easy picking for the pokemon ZhengTann sends in to finish the job.
    Calc (open)

    Round 5:
    Mudkip unleashed Bide
    [(29.25*2)*1.75] = 102.375 damage
    6+(102.375/2) = -57 energy
    Staryu fainted!


    Someoneelse's Mudkip (Flood)
    AAO
    [​IMG]
    13HP/23Energy
    Speed: 40
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rock
    Someoneelse's Bench (open)

    Someoneelse's Sneasel (OP)
    [​IMG]
    42HP/70Energy
    Speed: 115
    Item: N/A
    Ranks:4/2/1/3
    Status: Burned
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field: Stealth Rocks


    ZhengTann's Staryu (Charla)
    AXO
    [​IMG]
    -56HP/53Energy
    Speed: 85
    Item: Amulet Coin
    Ranks:1/2/4/2
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other: FAINTED!
    Field: N/A
    ZhengTann's Bench (open)
    ZhengTann's Numel (Elfman)
    [​IMG]
    64HP/73Energy
    Speed: 30
    Item: Exp Share
    Ranks:2/2/3/3
    Status:
    Boosts/Drops:
    Other:
    Field:N/A
    1. ZhengTann replaces Staryu then orders (done)
    2. Someoneelse responds
    3. I ref
  23. Someoneelse

    Someoneelse Why am I here?

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    Rock Slide + Rock Smash > Cooldown (Rock Slide + Rock Smash) > Suicide (Rock Slide + Rock Smash)
  24. ZhengTann

    ZhengTann Nargacuga
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    Just posting to say I finally noticed one thing - Mudkip has 90 HP deducted by 77 HP, so it should end up with 13 HP instead of 23, meaning STAB Dark Pulse from Murkrow KOes Mudkip without taking damage under these situations. I intend to reorder given the knowledge of this new situation, and I'm sure Someoneelse wouldn't mind too, as it gives him a chance to energy stall me rather than attempt a suicide combo.
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    "Hmph, easy pickings... So wimpy that they can do nothing but pick on girls, then deny their doom."

    Dark Pulse > Night Shade > Astonish

    IF Mudkip is under the effects of Protective/Evasive moves, THEN replace that action with Peck and push remaining actions backwards.
  25. Someoneelse

    Someoneelse Why am I here?

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    Protect > Avalanche > Rock Slide + Rock Smash
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